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  1. xrpb11a


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    271   9:42pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    That's nice to know....but you are still surrounded by prostitution....both in Reno and in the surrounding brothels...
    shit, the US is surrounded by the atlantic, pacific, canada and mexico...
    I know of no distance requirement when using the term "surrounded"...

    bgamall4 says

    xrpb11a says

    I guess when you live in a city like Reno, and you are surrounded by prostitution,

    Prostitution is illegal in Reno's and Las Vegas's counties.

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    272   9:42pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    iwog says

    I'm assuming Romney is human

    I am not sure anymore Duck!!! :)

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    273   9:48pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    and I'm assuming that this is a brilliant tactic by Romney:

    * hold back the taxes until 2 weeks out from the election, keeping the demos focused on that and ignoring everything else that they can dig up..

    * release the taxes, knowing there's not much the demos can do in that short a time, and there's not too much damning evidence in the returns.

    * unleash the 2/1 nuclear spending advantage romney will have with attack ads, executing the florida primary strategy that won him the nomination.

    iwog says

    I'm assuming Romney is human, and I'm assuming that Romney's tax returns would be devastating to his campaign since he's fought so hard to keep them private.

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    274   10:01pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    xrpb11a says

    * hold back the taxes until 2 weeks out from the election, keeping the demos focused on that and ignoring everything else that they can dig up..

    * release the taxes, knowing there's not much the demos can do in that short a time, and there's not too much damning evidence in the returns.

    People on Business Insider have commented that the taxes have to be released by October 1 in order to be properly vetted. And most comments come from conservative people who are fed up.

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    275   10:01pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Every day spent by the demos on romney's tax returns is a day not spent digging up stuff that could really damage romney's chances, a brilliant tactic.

    Romney will release his taxes 2 weeks out from the elections....and unleash his 2/1 spending advantage, which will drown out anything the dems can dig up in the returns.....

    This is why you want Romney in the white house. Make use of this skill set (planning to win, at any cost) against Russia/China/Iran....the only caveat is that you must become a victim of it before you get to use it against our competitors/enemies.

    Kinda like getting a flu shot to prevent the flu.....stings a little but you are better off in the long run...

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    276   10:03pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    That is the brilliant part of the strategy. He will release 2 weeks out, and be able to say he released all his taxes prior to the election. But there won't be enough time to extract enough damaging information to affect the results....

    bgamall4 says

    xrpb11a says

    * hold back the taxes until 2 weeks out from the election, keeping the demos focused on that and ignoring everything else that they can dig up..

    * release the taxes, knowing there's not much the demos can do in that short a time, and there's not too much damning evidence in the returns.

    People on Business Insider have commented that the taxes have to be released by October 1 in order to be properly vetted. And most comments come from conservative people who are fed up.

    Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com

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    277   10:06pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    xrpb11a says

    That is the brilliant part of the strategy.

    You want him to give out lying returns? Are you a madman? I think you are bordering on the ludicrous. Sorry, but saying this tactic will work against the American people is a major insult. But you don't respect them anyway as your posts have proven.

    You are a troubled terrier, XRPB.

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    278   10:12pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    For this strategy to be successful, it must be a complete surprise for the demos to finally get their hands on the returns, only to find out there is very little damning evidence in them....with only 2 weeks remaining till election day.

    The conservative people who are fed up are not privy to this strategy...in fact, they are unknowingly a part of it, inspiring the left to keep after the returns and ignore everything else....

    bgamall4 says

    And most comments come from conservative people who are fed up.

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    279   10:13pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    I have no idea what you are talking about. What do you mean by "lying returns"??

    bgamall4 says

    xrpb11a says

    That is the brilliant part of the strategy.

    You want him to give out lying returns?

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    280   10:36pm Mon 6 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    thunderlips11 says

    Wait, are you saying he merely took $2500 and picked stocks so well that he made a few million?

    Wow, I think we found Peter Lynch's replacement. Move over Warren Buffett. Junk Jesse Livermore.

    Nah. I bet he was playing silly buggers with classes of stocks in companies he controlled, managed, or otherwise had the inside track on.

    Most forms of insider trading are legal, if you follow the disclosure rules.

    Yes its possible! Rare, but possible! What do you think most VCs and Company founders have in their 401K/IRA accounts ?

    Inside info, doesnt matter since they werent public companies at the time anyway... but much later after IPO.

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    281   12:26am Tue 7 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    xrpb11a says

    nd I'm assuming that this is a brilliant tactic by Romney:

    * hold back the taxes until 2 weeks out from the election, keeping the demos focused on that and ignoring everything else that they can dig up..

    * release the taxes, knowing there's not much the demos can do in that short a time, and there's not too much damning evidence in the returns.

    * unleash the 2/1 nuclear spending advantage romney will have with attack ads, executing the florida primary strategy that won him the nomination.

    Releasing damaging info two weeks before the election would be insane, that is when most people are paying attention. The dems can put out good ads in 1 or 2 days.

    Unfortunately for your "strategy" all the air time in swing states has pretty much already been bought up. Plus the general news media would provide a lot of unpaid attention to this story. Obama will have enough money to compete. The problem for the Romney is they are trying to re-define a man who has been in the public eye for over 4 years. Pretty much everybody has made up their mind about Obama, it is Romney that is being defined by the Dems and not to his advantage. They can run negative ads against Obama from here to eternity and it will not much affect peoples opinion of Obama. It may gin up the republican base some, they are pretty hot to vote against Obama already but not very enthusiastic to vote for Romney

    I will bet you $10,000 :-) he will not release any significant number of additional years of returns and likely none

    I think you might have a mild case PTSD from all your comments on this thread. Relax, no ones comments on this thread mean squat.

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    xrpb11a says

    For this strategy to be successful, it must be a complete surprise for the demos to finally get their hands on the returns, only to find out there is very little damning evidence in them....with only 2 weeks remaining till election day.

    The conservative people who are fed up are not privy to this strategy...in fact, they are unknowingly a part of it, inspiring the left to keep after the returns and ignore everything else....

    bgamall4 says

    And most comments come from conservative people who are fed up.

    No not ignoring everything else... what this scandal exposes and what's beginning to be recognized more and more is not so much his skills at tax evasion or money making, it's his continual lying and dishonesty. Continual.

    Why doesn't he just stand up and defend his returns? What could be more straight forward? Why not just stand up and say "f you all, lefties, here are my tax returns, I made millions and you didn't and I figured out the best and smartest ways to save as much of it as I could, all perfectly legally, so f you. Bite me."

    Why not? The base would love it, reid would be demolished, Obama would be under cut... Even I would be impressed and even iWog would cower under his newly revealed potent manliness.

    Why doesnt he just do that? Because there has to be stuff in there that's deeply damaging in some way, but does it even matter any more? Nope. What this is bringing to the forefront - the take away from all of this - is the fact that this guy can't be straight or direct and honest about seemingly anything... That's a helluva takeaway from a simple question about tax returns, the simplest thing in the whole of the USA for most of us to be clear about. But not him.

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    283   12:41am Tue 7 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    xrpb11a says

    This is why you want Romney in the white house. Make use of this skill set (planning to win, at any cost) against Russia/China/Iran.

    I've heard this argument before. Romney may be a sharp business guy but his campaign is a shambles and his foreign trip was at best a mild fiasco. He does not present himself well to the public, so I am skeptical of this argument. His foreign policy team is made up of GW Bush people who were responsible for one of the biggest foreign policy disasters in the nations history (Iraq war). Personally I would like to avoid war with Iran and while Obama may well take us there Romney and his crew would be more likely to do so.

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    284   7:35am Tue 7 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Maybe he's taking deductions for 10 wives.....

    kentm says

    Why not? Why doesnt he just do that? Because there's stuff in that's deeply damaging in some way. But does it even matter any more?

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    Zing! :-)

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    Don't worry. I'm just having fun....laughing at all my posts and the comments it generates....I take everything lightheartedly here...

    Seriously, I am an agnostic independent who leans right on 60% of most issues.
    So my only choice in this election is to bite my lip and accept 40% from obama. The christian right has hijacked the republican party, leaving me with no legitimate choices to counter OB...

    Actually, Kentm hits the nail on the head. Even if Romney's tax returns had no damning evidence, he has blatantly flipped on too many issues at this point to be considered trustworthy. While I don't believe any politician can be considered completely trustworthy, they have to at least give the appearance that they are. Romney fails miserably in this regard. Romney is so obviously full of shit i actually grimace at every word that comes out of his piehole.

    I would have voted for huntsman or pawlenty over obama. I would have even considered newt with all his baggage....but the religious element in the party has forced all the legitimate contenders out the door. Eventually the repubs will come back. They will just have to lose a shitload of elections to get there. I mean, I'm shitting my pants looking at bachmann and palin projecting themselves as leaders of the party...

    So here i sit, with nothing left to do except call out comments based on technicalities...and chase down Iwog for his 10 years of tax returns...

    rdm says

    I think you might have a mild case PTSD from all your comments on this thread.

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    xrpb11a says

    Romney fails miserably in this regard. Romney is so obviously full of shit i actually grimace at every word that comes out of his piehole.

    I respect this. I know several conservative/moderate republicans who on the one hand know and don't like the fact that the lunatics have taken over their party, but at the same time they read and listen to enough of the propaganda from these same lunatics that they HATE Obama.

    These are otherwise smart people who understand the financial collapse that preceeded Obama's term, but don't understand a lot of other facts such as http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-02/fiscal-cliff-crisis-rooted-in-senate-ploy-to-pass-bush-tax-cuts.html, because of the constant anti Obama propaganda that they enjoy (even while they say they hate the crazies that have taken over the party and right wing media).

    Bottom line: I respect that you can at least see through the BS enough to prefer Obama over Romney.

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    Let's face it, Obama is FAR more likeable than Romney. I'm pretty sure that the reason why I don't grimace when Obama talks has little to do with the fact that he's "on my team." I didn't grimace when Reagan talked either, in fact I was fully aware of how charismatic and likeable he was. But to me Obama is even more likeable than Reagan, because it at least seems like he writes more of his own speeches. I find his intelligence comforting.

    I'm sure that Romney is working or will be working really hard to prepare for the debates, but I predict that everyone seeing them side by side making their case in the debates will be the end of Romney's hopes ( because of the BS factor on top of his not so likable countenance ).

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    kentm says

    "f you all, lefties, here are my tax returns, I made millions and you didn't and I figured out the best and smartest ways to save as much of it as I could, all perfectly legally, so f you. Bite me."

    Because if there's one thing the public hates, it's rich people who avoid paying a lot of money in taxes. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they hate it. The common American is getting killed with taxes, there are more taxes coming, and then you've got Romney and his millions of dollars not paying much of anything because he can move his money around offshore.

    In no dictionary does "legal" mean "looked upon favorably by the majority of Americans". Besides, everyone knows that the rich make the laws anyway, so most of these legal loopholes are complete bullshit that only the rich get to take advantage of.

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    obama would do much better against china/russia/iran than romney ever could. obama has proven time and again that he just doesn't give a shit about the sovereignty of other nations.

    oops, sorry for the missile strike and the civilian deaths. they were all terrorists anyway.

    oops, sorry, were we in your country?

    and delaying releasing the tax returns would be a huge mistake because it would let the issue fester until the election. the longer it goes on the worse the perception will be. since he's not providing any tax returns people can say whatever they want...and the public will believe the worst of it.

    it's funny watching republicans throw a hissy fit now that democrats have started acting like republicans.

    come on, let's hear again about how obama isn't a citizen or about how he's planning to take away everyone's guns in his second term. let's hear more made up facts and paranoid delusions spawned by the white fundamentalist persecution complex.

    I wish half of what obama's accused of was actually true. but it's not. if obama was white and republican, with the same policies he has today he'd be loved by the same people who are demonizing him.

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    marcus says

    I find his intelligence comforting.

    Obama, is a political machine.. made in Chicago! Does it strike you odd all the comments made toward Romney, painting him as tax evader and job killer are left unsaid of Obama supporters in Silicon Valley VC firms.

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    kentm says

    what this scandal exposes and what's beginning to be recognized more and more is not so much his skills at tax evasion or money making, it's his continual lying and dishonesty. Continual.

    If you looked at Ronmeys tax return, im sure you noticed it was prepared by PWC. You think PWC is about to set themselves up for criminal charges of tax evasion ?

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    293   4:53pm Wed 8 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    thomaswong.1986 says

    painting him as tax evader

    How would you paint him Wong?

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    xrpb11a says

    but the religious element in the party has forced all the legitimate contenders out the door.

    LOL! the left were saying the same thing when Reagan had Robertson and Falwell over at the White House. But as you can see, we havent turned into the theocracy as many on the left would like to claim.

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    xrpb11a says

    .but the religious element in the party has forced all the legitimate contenders out the door.

    It is the war religion. Heck, if we are going to fight someone it may as well be the Brits.At least that would be a just war, not an oil war. We are losing the Revolutionary War as I write this:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fed-and-treasury-want-us-taken-over-by-the-british-traitors-2012-8

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    bgamall4 says

    How would you paint him Wong?

    What tax evasion ? Your a lefty journalist/writer not a tax accountant.. what would be the point explaining to you IRS tax rules ... your mind is already set.

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    StoutFiles says

    Because if there's one thing the public hates, it's rich people who avoid paying a lot of money in taxes. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, they hate it. The common American is getting killed with taxes, there are more taxes coming, and then you've got Romney and his millions of dollars not paying much of anything because he can move his money around offshore.

    Well said. And you followed this by saying an important thing. The laws are written by the rich for the rich. So they aren't legitimate laws anyway. One issue that is important is that there are well over 20 trillion dollars in offshore money for the entire world. That money would be taxed and a 5 or 7 trillion dollars would fix a lot of things in the world.

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    Romney needs to embrace white power Republicanism. Get on TV and opine that the 13th Amendment "is a criminal betrayal of white christendom. In a Free White America,you should not even need a license to hunt Obama."

    That should rouse the base.

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    bgamall4 says

    One issue that is important is that there are well over 20 trillion dollars in offshore money for the entire world. That money would be taxed and a 5 or 7 trillion dollars would fix a lot of things in the world.

    Lets see.. repatriate ALL of Ford European "money" and have it taxed.. would leave the Ford Europe operations practically bankrupt unable to operate.. pay workers, vendors and foreign taxes.

    Real fucking bright of you!

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    thomaswong.1986 says

    repatriate ALL of Ford European "money" and have it taxed

    I am talking about private money Wong. I am not talking about corporate money.

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    Gary, why do you hate Freedom?

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    I am talking about private money Wong. I am not talking about corporate money.

    Your talking about middle east oil, mafia and latin american drug money, not US Citizens.. Thats where you rack up BILLIONS by account holder..

    You want to after THAT money .. go to Tehran (Iran), Sicily and Bogota, Colombia...
    thats where your going to find the account holders...

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    the herd of elephants has...

    thomaswong.1986 says

    But as you can see, we havent turned into the theocracy as many on the left would like to claim.

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    xrpb11a says

    the herd of elephants has...

    no, it hasnt happened. The fear is unfounded! Its all just noise to create distraction. What we do have is anti-religious hate groups run amoke.

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    thomaswong.1986 says

    no, it hasnt happened. The fear is unfounded! Its all just noise to create distraction. What we do have is anti-religious hate groups run amoke.

    No one on the left says we've turned into a theocracy. Some do want to prevent that as a possibility.

    There are many on the right who desire it.

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    If Americans aren't Free to stone heretics to death, Freedom has no meaning!

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    iwog says

    Some do want to prevent that as a possibility.

    Fear... Politics Chicago Style.. what you cant scare you threaten...

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    thomaswong.1986 says

    iwog says

    Some do want to prevent that as a possibility.

    Fear... Politics Chicago Style.. what you cant scare you threaten...

    Are you talking to me personally? Because I've done nothing of the sort. Better turn your radio down.

    Christians have proposed constitutional amendments to re-institute prayer in schools, (only Christian prayer please) to ban flag burning, to prevent gay marriage. The threat is very real.

    "...I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

    ~ Mike Huckabee, presidential candidate

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    - more to the question, can one pray in school to any religion ? No!
    - yes, its ok to burn the flag since in a proper way to dispose a worn out flag with
    proper honors. As for in a demonstration.. heck no! I seen plenty of Iranians burning the flag back in the late 70s. They were properly kicked out of the USA.>
    - gay marriage... again thats a religious institution. No one has banned partnerships.

    Opinions are plenty as there are on the left.

    Of course your still stuck on "monolithic right wing conspiracy" talk..

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    APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

    Gary, why do you hate Freedom?

    Which kind of freedom are we speaking about Tony? Hope we are not talking about the freedom to screw America like Standard Chartered bank of England has been doing to US foreign policy. Or the freedom for banks to steal MF Global funds "legally" when they screwed up trades in the UK. Or the freedom of Jamie Dimon to lose billions in the UK. Or Madoff scams that would not have gotten so far without mostly occurring in the UK? I hope we aren't talking about freedom to do those things, Tony.

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