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What's sad is that man has worshiped ~ 2870 deities. Each one being a true God?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_gods_and_goddesses_are_there
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the point is, nobody has any of the 'answers'.
that's why Agnostics Rock!
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Cloud says
Love is an emotion. It only exists as an observable emotion in very few higher order mammals, though variants of affection and caring occur elsewhere in the animal kingdom, a clearly advantageous selective trait which increases the odds of offspring surviving.
If there were no humans, or no animals at all, then there would be no "love" or any other biologically generated emotional state.
Since you drew the initial parallel, are you then also suggesting that if there were no humans then there would be no god? So logically, god cannot exist without humans?
Actually, you're probably more right than you realized.
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Dan,
It's great to recognized for our genius. LOL
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Message from Cloud on Mon, 13 Aug 2012 at 10:47 pm deleted due to
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xrpb11a says
I would argue, and have, that human beings are capable of knowing some things. For example, I know without any doubt that the square root of two is an irrational number. Depending on the definition of god someone offers, I can do one of the following,
1. Disprove the existence of god under that definition.
2. Prove that no one is worshiping god or looking to god for moral authority under that definition.
So far, no one has ever been able to come up with a definition of god in which I could do neither. Challenges are still welcomed.
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Randy H says
True. The existence of love or any other emotion does not even imply the existence of any deity.
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HEY YOU says
It's more important to fight the forces of irrationality so that they do not destroy us or cause future generations to repeat the mistakes of history.
The messenger is irrelevant. All that matters is the message itself. Where an idea comes from is irrelevant. It is either correct or not regardless of which hairless ape wrote it or spoke it.
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Cloud says
Feel free to demonstrate the existence of love by abandoning all your trolling. It will not be tolerated in threads where I moderate.
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Message from Cloud on Tue, 14 Aug 2012 at 5:54 pm deleted due to
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Cloud, you ain't going to win this one. You are the first and only person who's posting I've deleted. And you've managed to score two deletions in one day. No wonder you have a troll score of 5.1, among the highest of all users.
You are free to express controversial opinions, even encourage to do so. You are free to make up bullshit facts and get called on them, although discouraged to do so. You are not free to be an asshole to anyone. If you don't like that, tough shit.
You can, of course, call out a person on bullshit if you think the person's argument is disingenuous or based on falsehoods. You can also attack any argument and advocate any political philosophy including drowning puppies in rivers. But you don't get to troll.
This will be the last time I explain this to you. All trolling posts will simply be deleted as above and no further explanation of policies will be given. Debate like a mature adult, and you'll be treated like one. Act like a child, and ditto.
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Dan8267 says
I'm thinking you want a different model on which to draw comparisons. It's us mature adults who are violently fucking everything up and teaching children to believe in ghosts.
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Dan8267 says
I'm thinking you want a different model on which to draw comparisons. It's us mature adults who are violently fucking everything up and teaching children to believe in ghosts.
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I wish the Gays and Atheists would go live on an Island somewhere. A nice quaint little spot in Purgatory, next to the maggot grinder, and Penis incinerator.
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CaptainShuddup says
Your wish is granted every day in the currrent Earth human society. Congrats! Do you celebrate every day thinking about how awesome humans have allowed for each other?
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awesomely
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Message from Cloud on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 at 4:56 pm deleted due to
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Dan8267 says
This kinda sucks. I use the ignore feature, which works great for the original posts...but I still have to see when someone responds or when the moderator deletes it. It detracts from the thread. At least get rid of the notifications that so-and-so had a post that got deleted when I'm already ignoring that person.
I guess I'm okay with seeing someone else who responds to an ignored user (I don't have a better way to handle it), but it still sorta sucks.
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Yeah, I had cloud on ignore. He's the only one I had on ignore. But I kept seeing his postings in replies, so I decided I'd do my duty as a moderator as Patrick intended and unignore him.
Sure enough, he was trolling. So far, he's the only person -- and I use that term loosely -- whose postings I have deleted. Of course, I haven't delete them all, just the troll ones.
I will, however, admit a guilty pleasure in pressing the delete button. For some strange reason, that feels good. It's like you're deleting the troll.
Deletion also keeps the trolls from hijacking a conversation and ruining it. As such, it is an unfortunate but necessary part of maintaining forums. If only everyone had emotional maturity, moderation of forums would be completely unnecessary.
I do make it a point not to delete based on anything but trolling. Even the most offensive bigoted rants, outright lies, or controversial positions would not get deleted by me. So far, the only things I can see that merit deletion are
- threats of violence
- trolling
- posting of someone else's personal info without consent
- something that's highly illegal
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Just curious, who was Cloud trolling? All I saw was the silly "does love exist" challenge, then nothing but posting tombstones.
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In this case me, but I would have deleted him no matter who he was trolling. I didn't delete his silly "does love exist" posts because that wasn't trolling, just a stupid argument.
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It's amusing to me, after years of listening to so many liberals, atheists and agnostics argue that those who have faith are retards...yet when they face death, in their last moments, they either convert, or acknowledge that they wish they could have found faith in their lives. FACT: people who have faith are healthier and happier than those who think we are looney tunes.
Sticks and stones baby and when it's all said and done, I forgive you for your anger and "un"liberal lack of tolerance.
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Where is your rating located??
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Fail.
In your last moments you are probably not thinking rationally, but wishfully.
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I've read about the 'healthier' part, not the 'happier' part.
However, if self delusion is required to live a happy longer life, you can have it.
I would much rather live a life based in reality.
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What is reality? Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for the evidence of things NOT YET seen. But they will be seen and you too will see it and expeience the TRUTH when your spirt leaves your body. I only hope that you find reality beforehand.
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and how do you come to this conclusion, other than you deciding you will just 'believe' it without one iota of evidence.
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I have. It is not based on 'faith'.
I'm pretty sure at one point in your life, you found reality also, but it appears you have abandoned it.
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btw, are you a former cast member of "the love boat"???
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I believe in something bigger than ourselves. However I think it is the unkown and will never be known to us mortals who are on earth for a short time and then gone -like they never existed.
Any religion that claims to know it all and is set in stone-is just a cult-in my humble opinion. That is why we have so much violence and silliness. If you think your way is set in stone and the world around you is saying it is somehting different-you can stop believing or try to change the world around you to fit your beliefs. Which leads to predictable results.
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Friends,
I was on the Love Boat just last night around the Hudson and had a great time...thank for asking. Clearly, we live in a world with lots of religions.I live in Astoria, Queens and there were thousands of Muslins in Astoria Park celebrating the last day of Ramadan. Catholics and Orthodox Christians celebrated the Assumption this week, which is the second most holy day other than Easter to the ancient Christain churches. I am a Christian, I wan't always. at one point in my life I was an agnostic until I ran into a small group of believers who believed in Jesus Christ in a way that I was not taught in my youth. So I traveled from blind faith, to no faith (believing that the prophets of old were drugged out of their mind--of course, I was the one heavily on drugs). When I read the world's most popular book on Earth and experienced that the Holy Spirit is clearly moving in our lives today, I was hooked. It was no longer reading about something in a book, but there were clear sittings! Invisible sittings the same as when I have faith that when I flip the light switch in my home, that the lights will come on, now when I pray to my Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus, that His Comforter, the Holy Spirt will intercede in my life. He's not a Genie in a bottle, but He does exist and He is fulfilling his obligation to mankind. If you only watch MSNBC, you will tend to be a liberal and if you only watch Fox News you will tend to be a conservative. If you never tune into Jesus Christ and ask Him to reveal himself to you and invite the Holy Spirit to enter into your life, wsh your sins away, you will forfeit the gift that Jesus paid for you by the shedding of His blood for you and for me. Mock me, I don't care. I believe because I have experienced so many miracles. We're not supposed to look for signs, but Jesus said, "wait for the Comforter and greater works will you do than I have done." God bless you.
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Zachary says
1. There is no proof of that.
2. That suggests that the belief in god is entirely motivated by fear of ones own mortality, which is a lousy reason to believe in a god.
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no one's mocking you.
it's just human nature to believe in stuff that offers comfort in light of our temporary existence on this earth.
Mortality is something most people are not equipped to deal with.
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Such as?
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Zachary says
I see where Deepak Chopra gets his inspiration for rhetorical gibberish.
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Zachary says
I hope you're getting how major parts of that book are about living peacefully and not living as a violent oppressor of those who believe differently. That seems to be lost on many who write in a manner similar to the way you've written here.