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1. Nobody Follow Befriend 10 threads 274 comments San Jose, CA

   154   10:04am Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Zachary says What don't you understand about the difference between $10T and $16T? An example of an idiot just reading the number without a regard to how it got there. Another idiot fooled by Republicans.

2. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,520 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

   155   10:19am Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Zachary says Biden was just being Biden. Was he talking about literal chains, or course not that is ridiculous... I am glad we agree that Biden was talking metaphorically. So knowing this, it is a ridiculous lie to write that Biden said, "...the Republicans will bring black back into slavery." So you knowing that Biden was not actually talking literally -- for the reasoning on why you told the lie -- I guess you are going with: leo707 says In this case you are telling an intentional bold-faced lie intent on deceiving people into believing something about Biden that is untrue; hoping that they will not dig any further and uncover your deliberate falsehood. Thanks at least for having the strength to admit your calculated deception. I now know that your intent here is to intentionally spread falsehoods about Democrat politicians. I will weigh your future posts accordingly. Zachary says This particular audience was mostly African-Americans and according to reports that I saw, may Black leaders were offended and said it was stupid. Yes, using a slavery metaphor was a poor choice in front of a mostly black audience. Certainly offensive and unlike many other supposed Bidenisms it was a gaff, but as you and I both know it was not a lie.

3. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,520 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

   156   10:31am Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Nobody says Zachary says What don't you understand about the difference between $10T and $16T? An example of an idiot just reading the number without a regard to how it got there. Another idiot fooled by Republicans. Zachary very well may be an idiot, but I don't think he is being fooled. He probably knows full well how those numbers came about and chooses to maliciously and intentionally lie to the forum spreading newscorp deceptions. That is why he will also never answer this question that I put to him/her: leo707 says just Google who Romney's top contributors are and tell me if you think Biden is telling the truth about Romney letting banks write their own rules. My guess is that because Zachary willfully chooses to lie to us he would never admit that Biden has told the truth about anything.

4. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 821 threads 2,811 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   157   3:00pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   leo707 says My guess is that because Zachary willfully chooses to lie to us he would never admit that Biden has told the truth about anything. Zach apparently does not know how to use the Quote button. He just needs to copy the text and hit the button. Then he doesn't seem to want to learn much about the housing bubble or anything. He won't challenge me but he won't learn with me either.

5. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

   158   3:30pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   bgamall4 says He just needs to copy the text and hit the button. Correction: He just needs to highlight the the text and hit the quote button. T0 highlight the text, press the mouse button as you swipe across the text. Zach: never be afraid to learn new things, such as how to use your computer or how to form your own opinions rather than trust the empty and stupid trash you hear from the propagandists.

6. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

   159   5:40pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Thanks guys for enlightening me to the truth, I have now decided to vote for Barack Obama...errrr wow I just had a nightmare that I voted for Obama, phew. Tonight during the DNC, I learned from one Actress how Romney was going to take her voting priviledge away...with wit like that, she doesn't deserve to vote. Another Actress said that I'm not going to tell you who to vote for, just that you need to go out to vote...then 5 minutes passed and she said, "I'm going to vote for Barack Obama and you should too!" Where's Clint Eastwood when you need him? I heard another guy say that the rich don't pay taxes, yet the Treasury reports that the top 1% pay in 2009 paid 37% of all Federal Income taxes.Oh and the top 10% paid 70.5%! Then there was Clinton last night and here are his top 10 lies: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/06/Fact-Check-Top-Ten-Clinton-Lies So guys, talk to someone who wants to hear your fantasies, I choose to deal with reality.

7. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

   160   5:45pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   And from Fact Check on Clinton's Speech: http://factcheck.org/2012/09/our-clinton-nightmare/

8. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,655 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   161   5:48pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Zachary says And from Fact Check on Clinton's Speech: http://factcheck.org/2012/09/our-clinton-nightmare/ Thanks for the link!!! Here is their conclusion: "Republicans will find plenty of Clinton’s scorching opinions objectionable. But with few exceptions, we found his stats checked out." Now compare this with Paul Ryan's speech: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/ryans-vp-spin/ TAMPA, Fla. — Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements. The bottom line is that Republicans are a lie factory and they really don't give a shit how extreme and stupid their lies have become. Democrats on the other hand exaggerate for effect like most classical politicians, but most of what they say is accurate.

9. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

   162   5:50pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Nobody, you are a nobody, a punk without a name. Malaka!

10. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    163   5:58pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Interesting. The second link you shared basically said there were no lies in Clintons speech. By the way, we all know there was some spin in it. What do you expect? But a lot of uncomfortable truths too, for any half way honest republican. The first link that talk about fact check top ten lies is one idiot embarrassingly stupid opinions. Here I presume is an example of his logical proof of a lie. Zachary says http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/06/Fact-Check-Top-Ten-Clinton-Lies #3. “We all know that [Obama] also tried to work with congressional Republicans on health care, debt reduction, and new jobs.” Really? Obamacare passed with precisely zero Republican votes, and only after the Democrats used legislative dirty tricks to pass it. On the debt reduction, Obama killed a deal with House Speaker John Boehner by trying to shoehorn massive tax increases into his final proposal. Republicans voted for Obama’s proposed – and sheepish – extension of the payroll tax rates. The Republican House has passed dozens of jobs bills. The Democratic Senate hasn’t even brought them to a vote. Obama’s budgets are so ridiculously non-moderate that they’ve received zero votes in the House and Senate – twice. So, if I understand it. He's saying that since no republicans voted for Obama care - that proves Obama didn't want to work with them. For that to be true, we would have to assume that republicans honestly wanted to help Obama with some kind of health care reform. Clinton made his case extremely well. And I would bet anything that Zach and all the other republicans including Captain shaddup didn't even see the speech. We know they wouldn't want to hear their guys entire platform so totally blown apart. I recommend you don't watch Obama tonight either, if you hope to continue living in your bubble.

11. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,520 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    164   6:00pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Zachary says Thanks guys for enlightening me to the truth... You are welcome! Oh, wait a second...are you telling a lie again? Zachary says Then there was Clinton last night and here are his top 10 lies: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/06/Fact-Check-Top-Ten-Clinton-Lies It seems that Ben Shapiro uses the same criteria on what is a lie as do you Zac. Or at least he lies about what others say in order to paint them as a liar -- as do you. No wonder you linked to his list of "lies". As pointed out by Iwog your other reference link disagrees with Shapiro's assessment. Zac in the future you may want to be more careful in your dissemination of lies and verify that you are not providing contradictory references.

12. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    165   6:00pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Leo, I didn't lie...Let me state the truth. Biden speaks without thinking, sort of like you and the rest of you brainwashed Democrats. I know, I can't read, think, only cut and paste, lie, etc. Listen to yourselves??? Do any of you have jobs?

13. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,520 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    166   6:04pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Zachary says I didn't lie Yes, you did. Zachary says Biden speaks without thinking Agreed, and then you took what he said "without thinking" and you lied about it to make it sound worse than it was. Zachary says Let me state the truth. Common, Zach, can you? Can you? I am beginning to become skeptical that you are capable of this. You can begin by admitting that you took a quote from Biden, then knowingly distorted it from its original meaning and repeated this distortion as if it were the truth. In other words you lied about what Biden said. Yes, you can being your path to telling the truth by first admitting that you lied.

14. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,655 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    167   6:05pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Zachary says Leo, I didn't lie...Let me state the truth. Biden speaks without thinking, sort of like you and the rest of you brainwashed Democrats. I know, I can't read, think, only cut and paste, lie, etc. Listen to yourselves??? Do any of you have jobs? How many Republican sociopath trolls can one site handle? What drives you punks to abandon every conversation and resort to flaming? Why are nearly all of you incapable of a simple conversation?

15. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    168   6:13pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   iwog, New comment by Nobody: Zachary says What don't you understand about the difference between $10T and $16T? An example of an idiot just reading the number without a regard to how it got there. Another idiot fooled by Republicans.

16. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    169   6:15pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   This punk is getting flammed by all you guys, 5 against 1, so pleaaaase don't even go there. Z

17. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,520 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    170   6:15pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Hey Zachary, This might help you out... marcus says bgamall4 says He just needs to copy the text and hit the button. Correction: He just needs to highlight the the text and hit the quote button. T0 highlight the text, press the mouse button as you swipe across the text. Zach: never be afraid to learn new things, such as how to use your computer or how to form your own opinions rather than trust the empty and stupid trash you hear from the propagandists. Your posts will make more sense if you use the quote feature.

18. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    171   6:22pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Whatever you do Zach, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT watch the you tube video of Clintons speech from last night. and also DO NOT watch Obama's speech tonight. If you feel you have to, then watch it on fox, so they can tell you what your opinion should be after.

19. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    172   6:48pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   I saw it live and don't need to watch the video, and I’m trying to watch your boy Joey right now ut you keep interupting me...and then will watch Barack ---all on C-SPAN.

20. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,655 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    173   6:58pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Zachary says I saw it live and don't need to watch the video, and I’m trying to watch your boy Joey right now ut you keep interupting me...and then will watch Barack ---all on C-SPAN. You're getting interrupted by an online chat board? LOL

21. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 250 threads 2,915 comments

    174   7:04pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   iwog says You're getting interrupted by an online chat board? So are you... you better go run and put on your Obama underoos before he comes on and speaks.

22. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    175   7:06pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Zachary says I’m trying to watch your boy Joey right now He's kicking ass and taking names.

23. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,107 comments

    176   7:08pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   marcus says Whatever you do Zach, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT watch the you tube video of Clintons speech from last night. as many holes as swiss cheese!

24. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    177   8:46pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   I noticed how both joey and obama put on a good act, looking down and letting their eyes mist over when talking about the military...identically. The scriptwriter should be fired for not giving them unique emotional outbursts...it was canned. marcus says Zachary says I’m trying to watch your boy Joey right now He's kicking ass and taking names.

25. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    178   8:53pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   What's so funny about that? Smart phones and most tablets play ringtones when they download messages. Responses to threads on Patrick.net will generate an email for anyone who subscribes. With your continued blathering, you are mindlessly generating ringtones interrupting everyone watching the DNC... While it is true one could turn down the volume, if they are waiting for an important call or email, that would not be possible. Your 'LOL' appears to be the product of a shallow and selfish evaluation of the situation. iwog says Zachary says I saw it live and don't need to watch the video, and I’m trying to watch your boy Joey right now ut you keep interupting me...and then will watch Barack ---all on C-SPAN. You're getting interrupted by an online chat board? LOL

26. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    179   8:57pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   I could swear I've seen you on TV in the 70's.... Zachary says Leo, I didn't lie...Let me state the truth. Biden speaks without thinking, sort of like you and the rest of you brainwashed Democrats. I know, I can't read, think, only cut and paste, lie, etc. Listen to yourselves??? Do any of you have jobs?

27. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    180   9:34pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says I noticed how both joey and obama put on a good act, looking down and letting their eyes mist over when talking about the military...identically. Good point. Obviously they don't really care at all. It's just politics.

28. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    181   9:37pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   xrpb11a says What's so funny about that? "What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love, and Understanding”

29. xrpb11a Follow Befriend (4) 2 threads 787 comments

    182   9:48pm Thu 6 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   I think they care. Who can't. But it was obviously scripted emotions. The gestures were identical. marcus says xrpb11a says I noticed how both joey and obama put on a good act, looking down and letting their eyes mist over when talking about the military...identically. Good point. Obviously they don't really care at all. It's just politics.

30. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    183   5:08am Fri 7 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Marcus, I agree with you, amazing, as I felt that Biden's emotions were scripted (just like the final results on bringing back God and Jerusalem back to the DNC platform without 2/3 agreement and fairly loud dissatisfaction from the convention floor), but there's no doubt that he an his wife care deeply for our heros. I didn't see Obama's speech, you guys wore me out and 5 minutes into his speech I fell asleep. I woke up to Cardinal Dolan's booming closing prayer. I'm sure that he had many of the Democrats on the floor squirming. I was surprised that he was there because earlier in the week, I read that he was being snubbed. I think Debbie Wasserman Shultz is an embarrasment to your party, and she did lie and was caught on tape: http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/sep/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz/wasserman-schultz-said-she-didnt-make-comments-abo/

31. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    184   1:55pm Fri 7 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   In President Obama's first two State of the Union addresses he said that jobs were his #1 priority, but Obamacare really was. Let's face it, the Democrats controlled the White House, The Senate, and The House of Represenatives for all of 2009 and 2010, but now it's those obstuctionist Republicans that killed jobs? Unbelievable: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/48942860/#48942860

32. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

    185   2:46pm Fri 7 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   obama didn't deliver on his campaign promises...end of line. obama = FAIL vote him OUT.

33. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 182 threads 4,620 comments Premium

    186   2:57pm Fri 7 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Everyone knows Biden orchestrated his wife and son's death for political advantage. He is almost as evil as the Kenyan interloper.

34. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    187   3:33pm Fri 7 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Zachary says the Democrats controlled the White House, The Senate, and The House of Represenatives for all of 2009 and 2010 How many times have you heard people explain exactly how long the Dems had the Senate and the house simultaneously. It was a few weeks. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/ Just one more lie. Hardly noticeable when your opinions are built on a foundation of pure lies.

35. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    188   5:55am Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Lies, lies, an more Marcus lies...is that your favorite word? So who's really lying? http://inflation.us/obamajobsbilltruth.html

36. Zeke1964 Follow Befriend (1) 92 comments Astoria, NY

    189   6:07am Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   By the way Marcus, I wasn't calling you a liar, just complaining how freely you use the word lie.Maybe you can help here? The only jobs bill that I can find was in October 2011 and a couple of Democrats votes against it as well as all of the Republicans. Of course in 2011, The Democrats lost some seats in the 2010 elections which woud have made it more difficult. What I have looked for and can't find is Obama's 2009 jobs bill and 2010 jobs bill? Can you find those? Thanks!

37. chela Follow Befriend 1 comments

    190   8:42am Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Zeke, you are the only one who makes sense to me. POLITICIANS suck. I do think democrats suck worse than republicans for the mere fact they pretend to care about the people. OBAMA needs to go. APOLYSE......or something like that bores me. Thank god I don't have to read his comments.

38. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 174 threads 5,237 comments

    191   9:09am Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Zeke1964 says What I have looked for and can't find is Obama's 2009 jobs bill and 2010 jobs bill? I would question whether jobs can be legislated. Historically, the biggest thing the government could do to stimulate the economy is lower interest rates (the fed), or cut taxes for a short term boost. IT's a long discussion, but things are broken now, due to the financial crisis in 2008 and all they have done to mitigate further crashing of the economy, when really the credit binge that started under Reagan and blew up in 2008 is going to take more than a couple bills in congress to get over. It would take some big tax increases, big spending cuts and probably several more years of depression if we wanted to get over it. But we all know that isn't going to happen. This thing doesn't just magically go away. Romney wants to end medicare as we know it, and lower taxes EVEN MORE on the top 10% (especially the top 1%). That's all you need to know in this election. And this is where the lies come in. I understand party allegiance. But you have to do A LOT of lying to yourself to not want to give up on republicans. Not that there isn't plenty of right wing propaganda out there to help you lie to yourself.

39. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 209 threads 4,521 comments Davis, CA

    192   10:11am Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   The True Story of Bain Capital & Mitt Romney? We'll never know because it's all PRIVATE and with lots of money hidden offshore.

40. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 821 threads 2,811 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    193   12:00pm Sat 8 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   chela says I do think democrats suck worse than republicans for the mere fact they pretend to care about the people. No, because the Republicans want another housing bubble even more.

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