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Orange county house prices fell in August


By Strategic Renter   Follow   Sat, 8 Sep 2012, 2:15pm   9,683 views   157 comments
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Looks like the bull trap has sprung and prices have resumed their fall to affordability
http://lansner.ocregister.com/2012/09/08/166087/166087/
Great news for the buyer watching and waiting.

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  1. Bigsby


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    118   10:39am Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Goran_K says

    Bigsby says

    Presumably you enjoy being alone with your over-inflated ego.

    See, now that wasn't nice at all. I rather enjoy your company Bigsby. *wink*

    Ah, so that post wasn't nice, whereas all your efforts...

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    119   11:50am Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Show us one single post where you've been honest about housing. ONE. You won't do it because you can't. You can't do it because your long history of lying to the public about housing is self-evident.

    Every single post I've made on housing. You can't even explain what my views on housing are, can you?

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    120   11:51am Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Bigsby says

    Can you not read? I just posted where I'm currently working. Give me strength.

    Given your long history here of lying, you need strength to tell the truth.

    Did you work out where I'm working yet?

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    121   11:56am Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Show us one single post where you've been honest about housing.

    Now, now, Darrel not in Phoenix, there's no need to start playing that game once again. I just told you I've been honest in every single post I've made, so even you can work out that you can just take any one of my posts that is about housing and you'll have your answer.
    And once again, if you think I'm being dishonest about housing, then please explain what my views on it are.

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    122   12:11pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell, how old are you? I presume you think it's all grown up to play the role of a troll on a real estate forum of all places. I guess it takes all sorts. You have my sympathy.

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    123   12:27pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Like I said, you have my sympathy.

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    124   12:31pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Like I said, you can't show us just one single post where you've been honest about housing.

    Just above you it says comments: 979. Click on it. Perhaps even you can manage that, but hey if you want to continue posting your childish responses (which you obviously do), knock yourself out. Clearly it doesn't take much to keep your mind occupied.

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    125   12:34pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    If it's that easy, post it so we can discuss. You won't because you can't. You can't because everyone here knows how dishonest you are.

    You are the one finding fault. You find a post on housing where you think I've been dishonest. Go on, I'll be waiting.

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    Bigsby says

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Show us one single post where you've been honest about housing. ONE. You won't do it because you can't. You can't do it because your long history of lying to the public about housing is self-evident.

    Every single post I've made on housing. You can't even explain what my views on housing are, can you?

    This post is a good example of not being honest. There.

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    127   5:47pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    RentingForHalfTheCost says

    Bigsby says

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Show us one single post where you've been honest about housing. ONE. You won't do it because you can't. You can't do it because your long history of lying to the public about housing is self-evident.

    Every single post I've made on housing. You can't even explain what my views on housing are, can you?

    This post is a good example of not being honest. There.

    There nothing. As usual you haven't proven anything.
    a. Show a post where I have been dishonest about housing.
    b. Explain what my view of the housing market is. If I'm being dishonest, then you have to know what I believe. Neither of you appear to have a clue, but why not try?
    Like I said, you have both failed to answer either of these points. Surprise, surprise.

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    128   6:01pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You two level accusations but cannot show a single post to demonstrate them. That makes the pair of you dishonest, not me.
    And Darrell, isn't it time for a name change? Perhaps it would enable you to be more honest about your dishonesty. How about Darrellinhisparent'sbasementsomewhereotherthanPhoenix?

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    129   6:05pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You have levelled the accusation, so the onus is quite obviously on you to prove it. The mere fact you haven't shows you for the liar you most obviously are.

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    130   6:11pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    C'mon LapDog..... you can do it.

    But apparently, you can't.

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    131   6:19pm Tue 11 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You first. Like I said, the onus of proof and all that.
    Anyway, I'm bored with attempting to get a reasoned response from your dim-witted troll persona, so we'll just leave it at this impasse. If you ever feel like being honest and attempting to back up your accusations rather than running around trolling a real estate website like a 12 year-old (perhaps you are...), then I'll be here.
    Now for a nice cup of coffee...

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Have a donut while you're at and come back when you're ready to get honest.

    I see you're gonna try to get banned again eh?

    What kind of useless fool keeps recreating new accounts so he can troll on a RE board? God you're pathetic.

    Now call me a realtor child. LOL

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    How many usernames are you going to use to talk to yourself? Well? How many?

    Why lie lapdog?

    Remind us all again how many times you've been banned and how many times you've changed your username. And I am currently in Kuwait. Iwog is presumably in Lafayette. Why not ask Patrick to confirm this and then you can offer up an apology?

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    134   5:10am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You've yet to demonstrate how I misrepresent the truth. And you're up very early posting on the internet for someone living in California. Are you on the night shift at the call centre?

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    135   5:18am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    And demand and prices are falling in Phoenix too. You've misrepresented that truth too. Why?

    Sure, sure. The only problem with that is I haven't got a clue what is happening to prices in Phoenix and I don't care. I suspect rather like you. Where is it you actually live? On the East coast by any chance?

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    136   5:27am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Darrell In Phoenix says

    No you don't have a clue. You got that right.

    Let me get this straight, you woke up at 5.00 in the morning and the very first thing you did was to start trolling on a real estate forum. Is that right?

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    137   5:34am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Trolling at 5.00 in the morning. Ha, ha, ha. You sad bastard.

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    What do you have to say for yourself?

    What would you like to talk about 'Darrell'?

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    139   5:41am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    How about your mummy? Did she not raise you right?

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    140   6:02am Wed 12 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Oh my Darrell, it looks like you've deleted all your recent posts. Why would you do that? You aren't embarrassed about your early morning trolling escapade, are you?

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    I think Patrick had enough and terminated him again.

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    Bigsby says

    There nothing. As usual you haven't proven anything.

    Another dishonest post. This game is easy.

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    RentingForHalfTheCost says

    Bigsby says

    There nothing. As usual you haven't proven anything.

    Another dishonest post. This game is easy.

    Presumably it's easy because stupidity comes naturally to you. Just repeating the word dishonest ad nauseam doesn't actually make it so. Show some evidence. Explain my stance on housing. How about if I posted that you were a mass murderer? Would it be my responsibility to prove it or yours to disprove it? Come on now, you talk an awful lot about (dis)honesty, on whom does the onus rest?

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Bibsy The LapDog is quite the spammer huh?

    So you weren't banned. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you deleted all your posts. Did your Mum come into the basement and reprimand you for your bad behaviour?

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

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    Bigsby says

    There nothing. As usual you haven't proven anything.

    Another dishonest post. This game is easy.

    I see he's a spammer in addition to being a liar and lapdog.

    Ah, Mr. Deleter, what do you call a person who removes multiple trolling posts despite the fact someone has already quoted them? An idiot perhaps.

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    Well I'm guessing any discussion of Orange County real estate is going out the window.

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

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    There nothing. As usual you haven't proven anything.

    Another dishonest post. This game is easy.

    I see he's a spammer in addition to being a liar and lapdog.

    Are you going to be up again at 5am tomorrow trolling a real estate forum? I look forward to it. Perhaps you can delete all your posts a second time and continue to call me a spammer. That would be funny, wouldn't it? He, he.

    Really, I'd love to know how a grown man can behave the way you do. You must be a stunningly inadequate little fellow.

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    That's precisely what our lapdog and coward in hiding wants. Diversion to his lies and away from the truth that housing is a massive loss at current inflated asking prices.

    No, I'm fine talking about housing. Why not post something other than one of your copy and paste comments to get the ball rolling?

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    Goran_K says

    Well I'm guessing any discussion of Orange County real estate is going out the window.

    Of course it did. People like you decided to troll individuals instead of talk about a topic. Apparently you need these flame wars to repair a bruised ego or something. I dunno, maybe you can explain it.

    Goran_K says

    Is Bigsby Iwog's little brother, lover, or alternate account?

    I have never seen Bigsby do anything else on this board EXCEPT attach himself to Iwog's buttocks during his "debates". Not saying that there is anything wrong with it, but it's cute to see Bigsby go to war for Iwog in every thread.

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    Anyway, to get back on topic.

    Something I've noticed a lot in OC distressed sales.

    Home comes on market at respectable price ($700,000, comps support $710,000 to $715,000).

    Everyone shows up to open house.

    Ends up, $45,000 2nd lien on the home. To get the listed price, you need to come $45,000 out of pocket.

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    Yes, back on topic. The title is bullcrap:

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    iwog says

    Yes, back on topic. The title is bullcrap:

    Umm, no it's not.

    A median selling price of $440,000. That’s up 3.5% from a year ago, but down from June and July, when the median home price clocked in at $453,000 and $450,000 respectively.

    It's clear that the Summer rally in OC has lost steam. It peaked in June, and the median has been down since then.

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    Goran_K says

    It's clear that the Summer rally in OC has lost steam. It peaked in June, and the median has been down since then.

    Median is not an accurate measure of housing prices. The most accurate is Case-Shiller's "same sale" methodology, and the next most accurate is Redfin's $ per square ft. measurement.

    Therefore although median price is down, it's not really relevant since it could simply be the result of a larger number of smaller units selling. When size is taken into account, like on the Redfin graph, you can see that the price is NOT declining and in fact is increasing.

    Now I've discussed your data and my data. Are you going to ignore my data and simply repeat your point about median prices, or are you going to have an actual conversation and acknowledge that prices are not actually going down?

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    iwog says

    Now I've discussed your data and my data. Are you going to ignore my data

    The redfin graph you posted was awesome. Kudos.

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    Darrell In Phoenix says

    Why buy a house when prices are inflated and falling? Buy later after prices crater for 75% less.

    Exactly!!! An Orange County house selling for $66 per square foot is entirely reasonable. WalMart greeters will flock into Orange County and buy up all the houses, pushing out all the poor engineers, lawyers, and trust babies.

    Not crazy at all.

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    iwog says

    Like dunross, you're a compulsive liar.

    Look who is talking. The guy who predicted silver going to $10-15 by March, 2012. Silver is almost at $35 today, and aren't you glad you didn't listen to iwog, and sold your silver. You'll be even gladder if you don't listen to him about housing, too.

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    dunnross says

    Look who is talking. The guy who predicted silver going to $10-15 by March, 2012. Silver is almost at $35 today

    Oh snap. No he didn't!

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