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Gov.Brown has signs bill barring landlords from forcing renters to declaw or dev

By tovarichpeter   Follow   Thu, 27 Sep 2012, 10:57am   938 views   11 comments
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   1   11:12am Thu 27 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Consider the State and the source of the signature!

2. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,258 comments Premium

   2   11:37am Thu 27 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   People blame the pets, but the problem is almost always the owners. Mutilating pets is not the answer. In order to get a driver's license, you have to study and pass a test. Densely populated areas should require the same for a dog license. It might be a good idea for landlord groups too: if landlords want to allow pets, condition that on the pets' behavior and in case of problems require training for both owner and pet (doggy day care, etc.).

3. Tepid Follow Befriend 2 threads 37 comments

   3   8:56am Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   As long as the Landlord can have a "no pet" policy, all is fine. it is wrong to mutilate pets.

4. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,220 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   4   10:45am Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Tepid says As long as the Landlord can have a "no pet" policy, all is fine. it is wrong to mutilate pets. Those "no pet" policies cause a huge number of pets to end up in shelters. Most of which are killed. Personally I'd like to see the "no pet" policies also be banned.

5. Tepid Follow Befriend 2 threads 37 comments

   5   12:23pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Not everyone is in the position to take on the responsibility of caring for a pet. Pets are not like fad that gets dumped when my likes change. And.. If I am a renter pets may not be an option because I don't know what the next landlord will allow. I pet can do quite a bit af damage when the owner allows it.

6. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,220 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   6   4:56pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Tepid says Not everyone is in the position to take on the responsibility of caring for a pet. Pets are not like fad that gets dumped when my likes change. And.. If I am a renter pets may not be an option because I don't know what the next landlord will allow. I pet can do quite a bit af damage when the owner allows it. So can a toddler or a drunken roommate, actually both of these can do far more damage than a pet (unless the pet is a rhino).

7. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,220 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   7   5:14pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Tepid says Pets are not like fad that gets dumped when my likes change. Unfortunately for many pets are nothing more than a fashion accessory. Sure they're cute when they're young but end up in shelters - or worse - as they get older: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9186390 http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2008/05/pit_bulls_overpopulate_shelter.html I agree much of an animal's behavior is how it has been raised. But he animal is the one that ultimately pays the price.

8. Tepid Follow Befriend 2 threads 37 comments

   8   6:11pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   New Renter says So can a toddler or a drunken roommate, actually both of these can do far more damage than a pet (unless the pet is a rhino). I agree with your statement if your saying drunken roommates should be kept in a kennel and then taken out only to potty. Really, renters in general can cause damage beyond their deposit. As for the treatment of pets, experience must mandate pets are worse or there would not be an issue. On the other hand, why should someone have the right to tell a landlord what he/she could do with their property. If the landlord feels someone or something is a risk, they should be able to decline or adjust the rent high enough to cover the risk. Insurance companies do this all the time to minimize risk. We accept paying more or less for the age of drivers, neighbor hoods we where locate, smoke/non-smoker, and on and on. But for some reason this process does not translate to renting property. If I don't have a "good" feeling about someone I should be able to say 3x the deposit or say hit the road. Did I discriminate by trying to mitigate the risk? Yes if your dog is 200 pounds and the other guy's is 1 pound, his will be a have a smaller adder to the deposit.

9. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,220 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   9   6:48pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Tepid says On the other hand, why should someone have the right to tell a landlord what he/she could do with their property. HOA's, insurance companies, local ordinances all can tell landlords what they can and cannot to do with their property. In addition landlords are already not allowed to discriminate against many groups: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fighting-rental-housing-discrimination-faq-29064.html If landlords are not allowed to discriminate against a renters familial status why not their pet ownership status? As I said kids can be as or even more destructive than pets. Pets don't turn on faucets to flood houses. Pets don't use hammers on walls, play with matches, guns, etc. Kids and drunken roommates do that.

10. Tepid Follow Befriend 2 threads 37 comments

    10   6:56pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Maybe you are actually stating why rent is so high. But again, why can an insurance company discriminate and not a landlord? Is it because they are the 1%.

11. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,220 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    11   7:42pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Tepid says Maybe you are actually stating why rent is so high. But again, why can an insurance company discriminate and not a landlord? Is it because they are the 1%. No, rent is high because people are willing to pay it (and have few options). You may be right about the insurance companies though.