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Why the StarWars prequels were a grave disappointment


By Dan8267   Follow   Sat, 6 Oct 2012, 1:00pm   1,004 views   15 comments
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There certainly were good parts in Episodes I, II, and III, but fans of the original trilogy (IV, V, VI) were gravely disappointed because of all the apparent contradictions. Maybe Old Ben Kenobi went a little senile in his old age and remember things different from how they happened.

The look on Luke's and Old Ben's faces as the midichlorians are introduced is priceless.

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  1. thunderlips11


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    1   8:59pm Sat 6 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    That was great. I guess Yoda in Empire was also wrong about the Force, or maybe it was a "different point of view."

    @Dan, if you liked that, you might like this:

    It's hilarious, and the serial-killer reviewer nails everything wrong with the movie.

    Here's another funny thing, the People vs. George Lucas:
    http://peoplevsgeorge.com/

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    2   12:12am Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)  

    To give George Lucas credit, did he invoke time travel?

    No.

    So at least he's superior to J.J. Abrams, who should be in Gitmo for the abomination that is Star Trek 2009.

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    3   12:37am Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Seriously - I gave up on Star Wars during Episode one. They just happened to have a race that had the exact $ he needed as a prize?

    The Brady Bunch episode where they won the talent contest was much more believable.

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    4   8:15pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    thunderlips11 says

    Dan, if you liked that, you might like this:

    Awesome review. If I had a one-time use time machine, I'd go back to when George Lucas was writing the script for Episode I and show him this review. Forget about assassinating Hitler or saving Kennedy. This is more important.

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    5   8:17pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Of course, the original trilogy had its problems as well.

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    6   8:19pm Sun 7 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    The How it should have ended series is pretty good. Here's the Harry Potter one.

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    7   10:42am Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    elliemae says

    Seriously - I gave up on Star Wars during Episode one. They just happened to have a race that had the exact $ he needed as a prize?

    It's even worse than that. Over the course of movie, what the prize is changes several times.

    Also, what are the Jedi saving Anakin from? Clean Nails, Nice Hair, Nice Clothes. Nice Mom. Slightly bossy master but not a cruel one. Taught the kid skills too. Indeed Anakin seems to have it pretty good.

    Vicente says

    So at least he's superior to J.J. Abrams, who should be in Gitmo for the abomination that is Star Trek 2009.

    That movie looked awful. I've learned to trust the Force when it comes to Trailers, and missed it.

    Dan8267 says

    Awesome review. If I had a one-time use time machine, I'd go back to when George Lucas was writing the script for Episode I and show him this review. Forget about assassinating Hitler or saving Kennedy. This is more important.

    Yeah, it was America's Myth, in place of King Arthur or Hercules. I honestly think part of Lucas loathed his own fans who made him all the money and enjoyed pissing them off out of spite.

    His treatment of the original 35mm Star Wars is a good example. He's even tried to seize the copy in the Library of Congress and replace it with the 1997 edition. Keep in mind this is the same guy who testified before Congress insisting that original black and white films from earlier eras were preserved. Meanwhile, he wants to suppress the original versions of the Star Wars trilogy

    Star Wars was a great film in spite of Lucas, it was due to immense pressure, financial and time. Empire and Return were directed by other people.

    A great filmmaker, Lucas is not.

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    8   4:22pm Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    thunderlips11 says

    Slightly bossy master but not a cruel one.

    Watto was much nicer than many of my bosses.

    thunderlips11 says

    I honestly think part of Lucas loathed his own fans who made him all the money and enjoyed pissing them off out of spite.

    I think the problem is that Lucas is surrounded by Yes Men, who are afraid to challenge anything he says. That's the problem with being very successful. Everyone wants to get on your good side and so no one will tell you when you're making a mistake.

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    9   5:11pm Mon 8 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Red Letter Media ( Mr Plinkett / Totino Pizza Roll Man ) did a perfect review of the Prequels.

    http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/

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    Mick Russom says

    Red Letter Media ( Mr Plinkett / Totino Pizza Roll Man ) did a perfect review of the Prequels.

    Somebody hasn't been reading the previous posts before posting himself.

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    11   12:03am Tue 9 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Dan8267 says

    Somebody hasn't been reading the previous posts before posting himself.

    There is a lot of rubbish said here. I look for pictures or users I don't like. Most of your comments put you in that category.

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    Dan8267 says

    I think the problem is that Lucas is surrounded by Yes Men, who are afraid to challenge anything he says. That's the problem with being very successful. Everyone wants to get on your good side and so no one will tell you when you're making a mistake.

    Good Point. The reason III is the Least Worst is because George swallowed some pride and asked for Spielberg's help, especially with the last half hour. It's not perfect, and it's flawed, but it's much better quality than most parts of the Sequels.

    Another contrast between the Prequels and the Originals somebody pointed out:
    The Shabbiness in general. The Millenium Falcon only works when it wants to, everybody's always in need of R2 to fix things, most equipment is worn and shabby, the bars are seedy and dirty. Equipment at Hoth is piled up in hallways; boxes, ladders, hoses are everywhere. There's even broken lights and a droid reclamation facility in the Cloud City. In the Prequels, everything looks like a showroom model, or it was just cleaned by 100 janitor droids.

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    The real problem with the prequels was that back in the early 80s, Lucas stated that he'd already worked out all the stories for movies 1 to 3 in his head and that they just needed to be scripted and filmed.

    Well ... if so, then the worst that the prequels would have been were these extra long documentary, David Lean-like pictures of the Old Republic. Instead, as the serial killer reviewer had noted, it was basically a garbage story written by an 8 year old.

    It was neither slow & epic, like a Dr Zhivago or Passage to India, nor crisp & concise as the originals.

    Thus, it fails on all levels. we could have watched three boring prequels, with a lot of dialogue and depiction of the various societies of the times but instead, we got nothing.

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    Rin says

    The real problem with the prequels was that back in the early 80s, Lucas stated that he'd already worked out all the stories for movies 1 to 3 in his head and that they just needed to be scripted and filmed.

    J. Michael Straczynski wrote a grand story arc and has proof. I should rewatch Babylon 5.

    George Lucas lies to everyone, even to himself. Unlike B5, the original treatments and drafts make it quite clear it was a single film.

    There was never any grand vision of 9 (or 12?) serials in the beginning.

    Lucas tacked that on later when he'd already decided to do sequels and dredged up stuff like his original 12-pager draft for "The Star Wars" which included a little kid named Annakin Starkiller, before he got rewritten and renamed to Luke Skywalker.

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    Vicente says

    J. Michael Straczynski wrote a grand story arc and has proof. I should rewatch Babylon 5.

    After the first season, B5 did get really good. But I never understood how a Minbari could possibly poison a Vorlon as occurred in the pilot. Christ, Vorlons were practically indestructible and everyone not tainted by the Shadows saw them an angels. Seems like when the writers wrote the pilot they had no idea what they were going to turn the Vorlons into.

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