Watchhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307952010/?tag=patricknet-20
An account of how Juan Williams got fired from NPR just for publicly saying that he felt uncomfortable sitting next to obviously Muslims people on airplanes. He didn't even say it on NPR! Shows how political correctness stifles debate -- and how the right wing does it too, maybe even more so.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
I'm pretty sure it has been anyone but conservatives that put legalized dope or male/male coupling on a ballot in California. So, one can't accuse the mythical right (which is actually just the "normal") of taking any action other than reacting. Kinda like Isreal has to react to the actions of the murdering thug arabs. Interesting how the left thinks Isreal should not defend itself, much like they hate to see Christians defend their convictions.
Now, it is true that California conservatives did put Prop 187 on the ballot, and it passed, and an activist liberal leftist judge halted the vote of the people. I wonder, how the leftists in Cal would react if one of their pet props passed at the ballot box but was then halted by a court ... hmmm ... funny, that just aint happened. The left relys on court, not the right. The right gets beat-up in court due to the liberal bias and constitution revesionists that populate the court system.
As for Political Correctness, the leftists can spew hate about Palin in the most crude of ways and get cheers and a raise, Imus can say nappy and almost get fired, Jimmy the Greek did get fired for saying an absolute fact. I can't find where a leftist was let go for spewing more leftist hate. Anywhere in America. THe left has no standards of behavior, other than hate Christians, hate straight white males, hate conservative values, hate right, hate good, hate honest, hate morality, hate Isreal, hate God ,... the left is the couldron of hate. Up is down in this world infected with liberalism and drug abuse.
Follow
Befriend (48)
274 threads
12,534 comments
47 male
Lafayette, CA
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
Since when have you voiced an opinion?
A blind assertion is not an opinion unless you can explain why you think it is correct. Time and time again you've refused to give reasons for anything.......even why you thought Romney would be better than Obama.
I don't know if it's fear of being wrong or simply inability to express yourself but I certainly hope it doesn't indicate a complete lack of support because then you're just echoing someone else.
Follow
Befriend (16)
763 threads
7,702 comments
Boca Raton, FL
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
This is exactly why you should have protested when Bush and his cronies stole the election in 2000. Al Gore was elected by any proper counting of electoral votes. Had he become president as the votes said, then Obama would have never even been picked by Harry Reid to run for president.
See, you could have had an Obama-free America. All you had to do was refrain from releasing the Bush/Cheney evil administration on the world.
Follow
Befriend (1)
247 threads
4,704 comments
Bap33 says
Yes, they have discovered you can do a lot with a little hate.
Follow
Befriend (48)
274 threads
12,534 comments
47 male
Lafayette, CA
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
This is another lie, this time said with emphasis.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Religion/2011/02/18/U-S-Canadian-church-growth-trends-persist-2.html
Follow
Befriend (48)
274 threads
12,534 comments
47 male
Lafayette, CA
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
I prove this statement to be totally false and there are millions more just like me.
The only reason you believe nonsense like this is because Fox will run a news story on election day 21 FUCKING TIMES about a single black man suspected of being a black panther doing nothing more than standing in front of a polling station. (legally) Right wing media takes isolated examples of extremism, or even fake extremism, and amplifies them so people think they represent all liberals.
Again most people on the right do not live in a reality based world and I dare say there are a billion easily proved examples.
Follow
Befriend (1)
247 threads
4,704 comments
Dan8267 says
Nope! that's not how it went down at all. That was AFTER the Nader nation told the Left to go get bent for blaming us for not voting for Al give me a fucking break Gore. They spent a whole week blaming us, like we would have gotten off the couch if Nader hadn't run in the election.
After that went no where they then started blaming the GOP for winning.
NOW the fundamental difference between 2000 and 2012, the Republicans aren't calling for a recount, recall or any other Liberal concoction to silent the voice of those spoken. We're more dissapointed in the gullible poor and Hispanics for believing that Obama is going to do anything for them. They should have asked the youth.
Even with the Liberal Victory nothing in Washington can get done with out John Boehner's permission. So tell me, who won?
Gotta go Papa Boehner is calling.
" Hey John can we have higher taxes on the top 1%?"
"FUCK NO!"
Well can't blame a guy for asking...
Follow
Befriend (48)
274 threads
12,534 comments
47 male
Lafayette, CA
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
Aaaaaaand the lies keep on coming. Did you forget Al Franken? The fact he was prevented from taking his seat in the Senate for 6 months thereby preventing Democrats from having a legally obtained super majority?????
Again it appears almost everything you know is simply made up. You've gotten so bad it is becoming a fricken joke.
Follow
Befriend (1)
247 threads
4,704 comments
CaptainShuddup says
iwog says
I'm sorry was Al Fucking Franken on the 2012 presidential ballot?
Follow
Befriend (48)
274 threads
12,534 comments
47 male
Lafayette, CA
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
Oh I see how it works. The 2000 election is relevant but the 2008 election isn't. For some reason I thought you were making a sweeping generalization about how liberals seek to silence the vote, NOT critiquing the 2012 election itself.
But of course that is exactly what you were doing and 2008 destroys your argument completely.
Next?
Follow
Befriend (16)
763 threads
7,702 comments
Boca Raton, FL
Premium
Bap33 says
On Christians
Hating Christians who hate fags and others is perfectly ok. 2000 years of utterly disguising and evil behavior from the Inquisition to the Holocaust certainly justifies hatred.
When Christians stop behaving so abysmally, I'll start to respect them.
On hatred of the white man
Granted I'm not a leftist, but you often use the terms left and liberal as if they meant the same thing, so... I don't hate straight, white men. Last time I check, I was a straight, white man. It's just that I don't hate gay, black men either. I don't see it as a zero-sum game.
Now the left is certainly guilty of man hating and race-baiting. So I can't defend them on that. However, the right is also guilty of gay hating and racism. And really, aren't these things all the same thing, bigotry?
On conservative values
Conservative values used to mean self-reliance, putting back more than you took, and working hard and honestly. Today, none of these things is true.
Conservatives promote corporate welfare and the largest socialist jobs program, the defense industry, which produces no wealth and in fact destroys wealth and global stability. Conservatives do not value self-reliance no matter how much lip service they pay to it. I, however, do.
Conservatives are pro-pollution because it increases profit margins for corporations by shifting the costs of production from the corporation to society at large (something that Bap says should be consider immoral because it goes against the interest of the groups -- oh wait, that's gay sex). Polluting is the very essence of taking more than you put back. It diminishes the world.
Consuming non-renewable resources like fossil fuels also diminishes the world and is taking more than you put back. A true conservative, by the old standards, would be very much against fossil fuel use.
Finally, as demonstrated by Wall Street and the banks, conservatives most certainly don't believe in honesty or hard work. In fact, the conservative dream is to gain as much wealth while doing as little honest, hard work as possible.
No, today "conservative values" is just code for bigotry against gays, all non-whites, all non-Christians, and all foreigners. That's why conservative values are a joke to everyone who isn't a conservative.
On right, good, honest, and morality
Conservatives have such a fucked up view of what these things are, it's no wonder that everyone else in the world has opposing ideas on this.
On Israel
I live in Boca Raton. Most of the Jews here vote democrat and are very left of what you consider the center. I hear Hollywood is full of liberal and leftist Jews. I don't think you have much ground to stand on.
On god
God doesn't exist. Therefore it is impossible to hate him. I can't hate Moby Dick for the same reason.
On drug abuse
The right likes to demonize any drug that isn't patented while letting horrible drugs go to market provided they result in corporate profits. The left simply wants to treat drug addiction as a medical problem rather than a criminal one. The right wants it to be a criminal problem in order to suppress minority votes. The right has no problem electing a coke-head president.
Need I remind you of all the conservatives addicted to legal drugs like Oxycontin.
Follow
Befriend
631 comments
Dan,
You left out how the white, male christian is oppressed and being screwed over constantly by an unfair and unjust system or society.
In other words, you left out the right's resorting to the victim when they get called out on their BS.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
I am not pro pollution. But, the fact that I (my on-line personage) was tossed into the line of fire with a big red target on my back for sharing a conservative view, does not indicate a hate filled leftist/liberal montra of hate at all ... not one bit ... parish the thought.
Follow
Befriend (16)
763 threads
7,702 comments
Boca Raton, FL
Premium
upisdown says
Christians are favored by the law and court systems, and that is clearly wrong.
Whites aren't discriminated against by the police, but white skin won't save your ass from the prison industry. Whites are discriminated against under Affirmative Action, and that is wrong. Just because most CEOs are white doesn't mean most whites are CEOs. Most whites have no privileges. Ditto for male vs. female.
Men are severely discriminated against in the family court system. It's barbaric how men have been treated in that court system for the past 40 years. This is the prime reason that marriage rates have declined so much.
Yes, the right does whine about b.s. that doesn't reflect reality such as Obama being a socialist, their guns being taken away, the war on Christmas, etc. However, there are quire a few violations of civil rights that white men experience. Civil rights ain't a black/white issue, it's a human issue. In order to protect your rights, you have to protect everybody else's.
And the greatest threat to civil rights come from bureaucracies and corporations who don't care about anything but money and power. Skin color and religion mean nothing to those monsters. A simple typo can and has resorted in Swat teams barging in at gunpoint on innocent people. A data entry error could send your ass to some secret foreign torture dungeon courtesy of Uncle Sam.
Follow
Befriend (16)
763 threads
7,702 comments
Boca Raton, FL
Premium
Bap33 says
So then, like me, you believe that all of the following should be banned:
- coal production and use
- fracking
- offshore oil drilling
- transportation of oil by ship
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
nope, I do not agree with all of those limitations as presented.
If you are being dramatic, then don't exhale. If you exhale you are polluting.
man changes matter into energy. That is what the matter's value is.
I do think Tesla had free energy figured out. Anti-gravity too. But, nobody seems to be going that way since the Nazi's stopped reverse engineering the saucers they found.
Follow
Befriend
40 threads
2,652 comments
'cept for the entire 5000+ year period where we had slavery, serfdom, and various forms of dictatorships ruling the world.
Bap33 says
Only according to the EPA, and they're just using a loophole in the law to try to deal with a problem. Excessive CO2 is a problem, but CO2 itself isn't a pollutant. The activities that Dan mentioned all result in a lot of very real pollution though, such as oil and other things that are bad for humans to consume getting into the water supply or sulfur getting into the air.
Bap33 says
You might want to revisit highschool physics.
Bap33 says
...or reality.
Follow
Befriend (9)
161 threads
1,544 comments
Premium
Kevin says
Nope that affected portions of the population. Dictatorships never went into family law and mandated how much time you spent with your kids and how much money you have to pay to the kid and the ex and force you to maintain them in the life they have been accumsted to.
Slavery, war, kings were all part and parcel of our history-but never was there a system where the governemnt controls each and every citizen and determines what is good for each and every one of them and takes a choice away for everyone.
Not only does an individual-or specifically males-in this country have no freedom in terms of family, we also throw more people in jail than any country in the world. Not even dictatorship come close to us.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
Kevin says
when you burn a log, you change the matter into energy ... or, you can say you release the energy trapped inside the matter and seperate the matter into diferent compounds, or you can go google it and use that explaination, but what I said is what we do with matter to get energy. We use it. When we use heat, it was created by burning matter -- including El Sol.
Gravity (dam power) and Windmill both rely on magnetics to exchange energy.
You eat an apple, you use the matter and change it into energy.
You shouldn't allow your hate to keep you from having an open mind about Tesla's works, or DiVinci's, or Moses' Ark.
Follow
Befriend (14)
751 threads
2,585 comments
63 male
Las Vegas, NV
bgamall4's website
Premium
Juan Williams schmoozes with the right continually. If you have scummy friends, it eventually rubs off!
Follow
Befriend (14)
751 threads
2,585 comments
63 male
Las Vegas, NV
bgamall4's website
Premium
Dan8267 says
Just because a person says he is a Christian doesn't mean that he is. State, sacral religion goes against a simple teaching of Christ, that His kingdom is not of this world. Anyone seeking to fuse church and state is not really a Christian. Dominionism is not Christian.
Follow
Befriend (4)
117 threads
17,655 comments
Premium
Dan8267 says
No. The greatest threat to civil rights comes from the belief that money and power are evil.
A perfectly greedy person has no prejudice.
Follow
Befriend (4)
117 threads
17,655 comments
Premium
Poverty is not a virtue.
Charity is as much a virtue as a fine painting is.
Reflect on this.
Follow
Befriend (5)
31 threads
2,239 comments
Premium
Bap33 says
Funny to see Bap write that, since he would have hanged da Vinci (note spelling) for "male/male coupling." Religious fanatics trying to kill everyone who doesn't agree with them, e.g. Bap69 saying liberals and gays are mentally defective and need to be hanged, are a much worse threat than NPR. That isn't to dismiss Juan Williams' legitimate point, but at least Juan remains alive and certainly has not been muzzled; he remains free to debate, unlike those killed by the Inquisition for heresy and those Bap and his ilk would kill if they ever get power again. If Juan becomes the target of a fatwah, or if Bap gets a chance to hang him, NPR may turn out to be the least of his worries.
Follow
Befriend (4)
117 threads
17,655 comments
Premium
"Liberal" is just a label.
e.g.
I am a classically liberal neo-liberal. This earns me a "conservative" label in this country.
Follow
Befriend
40 threads
2,652 comments
lostand confused says
Oh, bitter divorcee. Sorry. I've never had a rational argument with one of these, so I won't bother.
lostand confused says
This is true. There has *never* been such a system. I sure hope there never is!
Follow
Befriend
40 threads
2,652 comments
Bap33 says
Two of those people were brilliant men with brilliant ideas, one is a fairy tale for children. Making ridiculous claims about things that a legitimate brilliant scientist did is a terrible way to have a discussion.
As far as the rest of your post...you have a very poor grasp of physics. I'm glad to see nothing has changed in the last 4 years.
Follow
Befriend (5)
168 threads
5,074 comments
CaptainShuddup says
The difference is that Gore won the popular vote, and arguably won Florida.
This time is no comparison. Obama wins the popular vote by about 3% and the electoral by over 100. What are you talking about ?
You actually think that if it had been so close that Obama only one by one state, and that state was won by a few hundred votes that republicans wouldn't be crying out for a recount ?
Wtf, man ? There are many thousands that are calling for secession !
Follow
Befriend
30 threads
1,488 comments
Bellingham, WA
Premium
marcus says
to be fair, most signatories to the petition are liberals wishing the conservatives *would* GTFO.
Follow
Befriend (1)
247 threads
4,704 comments
Just get Ben Bernanke to say there isn't a secession, and the whole business will be forgotten.
Follow
Befriend (5)
31 threads
2,239 comments
Premium
CaptainShuddup says
LOL - let Uncle Ben print confederate currency and in 10 years their economy will burst and collapse!
Follow
Befriend (9)
161 threads
1,544 comments
Premium
Kevin says
Wrong on both counts. I have never been married, though might finally settle down-found a nice woman who makes as much as me. The system is the modern family court system.
But go on cast personal insults-when there are none to be cast and keep talking gibberish-because as usual you have no worthwile arguments.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
Kevin says
are you suggesting there was no Hebrew named Moses that led away Hebrew slaves (a historical person) or just not a Moses that did what the Bible said (Ten Commndments, Ark, ect)?
Kevin says
Bap33 says
ok, now this:
http://www.ehow.com/about_6657743_burning-fuels-produce-similar-pollutants_.html
A very green view of how matter is used to make energy. I must be using a term or something you do not like, but I really cant see your point. I will not be upset if you plainly explain your point about my view, and let me know what I said that is wrong.
Follow
Befriend
30 threads
1,488 comments
Bellingham, WA
Premium
Bap33 says
As for the matter vs. energy thing, matter can store potential energy in its chemical bonds.
Plants take the incident energy of photons hitting specific molecules in their leaves and transform water and carbon molecules into sugars, which have a higher embedded chemical energy than the constituent particles.
When we intentionally rapidly oxidize ("burn") these sugars, this embedded chemical energy is released as radiation, which we perceive as heat and light at our human scale of understanding.
But matter is conserved in this process, so matter is not actually turning into energy -- the atoms just come through it in a different, lower energy, configuration compared to how they were arranged before being burned.
As for the old testament, I think beyond a certain point it's no more historical than the Mormon "bible" is. Where that point is is of course open for debate, LOL.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
Bellingham Bill says
and I said, "or, you can say you release the energy trapped inside the matter and seperate the matter into diferent compounds"
I think I grasp this pretty well .... but, this example is only talking about burning a bio source. We can burn rocks, that have no sugars, and release energy too. So, I just kept it simple. My bad.
Follow
Befriend
30 threads
1,488 comments
Bellingham, WA
Premium
Bap33 says
actually we're just rearranging the carbon-compound chemical bonds in fossil fuels, too. The organic matter that became fossil fuels was the product of photosynthesis, too, for that matter.
"organic' techincally means carbon-based, btw.
2H₂ + O₂ → 2H₂O exothermic reaction has no carbon in it, LOL. Thermite, and lime + aluminum are also non-organic power sources.
As are electrical batteries like lead acid (lead + hydrogen sulfate), NiCd and lithium polymer . . .
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
now we are on the same page .... matter = energy, and energy = matter.
matter is a compound of atoms that move around when they gain energy and when they lose energy.
My dry cell Optima battery is really nice.
Follow
Befriend (8)
203 threads
4,407 comments
Davis, CA
Juan's core polemic is pointedly ignorant horseshit.
Look, he works for large entity which makes money. Whether it's NPR or it's Fox News, they own the microphone. You do or say something that offends your employer's sensibilities, you are history.
You want absolute "free speech" without worrying about getting fired, then buy your own microphone.
Pretending otherwise is like he's just discovered something everyone else has known since the beginnings of mass media. You think a reporter employed by William Randolph Hearst wrote any stories about the wonders of hemp?
Follow
Befriend (5)
31 threads
2,239 comments
Premium
Vicente says
This question reminds me of a famous story about Hearst, which even Orson Welles acknowledged by presenting it in the movie Citizen Kaine. Hearst fell in love with a talented Vaudeville-type comedic showgirl named Marion Davies, and he pressured her to sing serious opera which seemed to him more dignified. A Hearst theater critic, who was also a drunkard, wrote a scathing review but passed out at his desk, missing his deadline. Hearst completed the negative review and ran it, then fired the writer for being drunk on the job and missing the deadline. Hearst was also famous for dinner parties at San Simeon where he invited people who disagreed totally about everything.
Follow
Befriend (3)
12 threads
3,097 comments
Vicente says
100% correct.