Hillary has accepted full responsibility for failing to provide the requested additional security for the US embassy in Libya. She has obviously done this to take the heat off Obama. The ambassador has died due to this negligence. She should resign immediately, but has not. WTF????

Clinton should resign
By SoftShell Follow Tue, 16 Oct 2012, 7:39am 5,144 views 110 comments
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nice misdirection...
no, we want hillary to go because on 9/11 an embassy in a semi-hostile country requested additional security and they were denied by hillary, as she has accepted full responsibility, and they were not evacuated, and eventually killed.
gbenson says
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the topic is about the syrian embassy fuckup.
not about bush, clinton, WWI or WWII...
what's so hard about discussing the merits of the actions on that date?
you know, unique incidents can be discussed without resorting to ill-fitting comparisons to long-past events.
But I understand your need to muddy the waters with these historical events, because there is no defensible position for the Syrian incident.
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I understand your need to take one event that fits your narrative in total isolation of all reality and hold it up and disect it till the cows come home.
But life is a continuum. It does not start and end with one event, despite your beleif that it does.
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My narrative remains in isolation because you refuse to discuss it on it's own merits.
why don't you start a thread on a specific event, and i'll show you how it can be discussed without muddying the waters with non-similar events.
I love to educate the uneducated.
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There was likely both an intelligence failure and related to that a security failure. When the investigation is completed and if it shows that there was a warning that was ignored and that Clinton ignored it or inadequately prepared for it, yes she should resign. That is very very unlikely There are many layers below Clinton that deal with security matters, these people are not usually political appointees but career State Dept. people. Yes the buck stops at the top but without direct involvement there will be no direct consequence. Never (that I can remember) has that happened before and it will not happen now.
Clinton will be gone after Jan anyway, she will not serve another term as Secretary of State regardless of the outcome of the election. She and Bill clearly want Obama to win. If she decides to run for POTUS it is normally easier if the position is open rather than running against an incumbent.
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LOL! You won't even see the folly in your position and now you are going to educate the uneducated. How cute.
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Your name sez it all......
Case Closed.
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I asked you point blank if you are Shrek. Are you Shrek?
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SoftShell says
Personal attacks. LOL!! Case closed.
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What part of "SoftShell" do you not understand??
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So referring to a name that you gave yourself and want to be known as, is now a personal attack? LOLOL
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You were going to educate the uneducated?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is not a 'no.' It is a bullshit false insinuation that someone cannot post under multiple accounts, masquerading as an answer.
Positing that you are Shrek: you posted surely thousands of comments here. What does it say about them, that you refuse to acknowledge your patrimony for those public thoughts? That you first ignore and then dodge when someone asks if you're the real father.
What does that say about you? Your intellectual honesty? Your integrity? Your self-respect?
I said it before: it always seems to be the folks around here who are ostensibly about personal responsibility, who slough off an identity like a snake shedding its skin. The problem is that it does no good. When you shed only the skin, you leave the core unimproved. That core: intellectual, moral --is you. You can post a million posts, under a thousand names, and they will all, ultimately, become more bastard orphans of your mind. You will never say anything that you will, in the long run, be proud to call your own.
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Hilary may have taken the downfall but she added the air "but".
The Clinton are No martyrs
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your drooling again sonny....wipe your chin.
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So you are incapable of determining my answer to your question by any method other than a "yes/no" reply?
Do you realize how stupid this makes you appear?
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What does it say about you, that you would waste so much time and energy attempting to tear down someone based upon a 'posit'?
Tell us exactly just what happened in your childhood to make you such an angry man?
We can help.
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I'm starting to feel sorry for you, so I'm going to make this easy.
The answer to your question is:
No.
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It's been reported that Comrade Clinton has requested Gulag outpatient treatments for her severe mental disorders.
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Oh boy, you are a funny one Abe. You just keep us all in stitches. Anyway it HAS been reported that comrade Clinton Warned that republican budget cuts would endanger security.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/secretary-clinton-house-republ.html
But I suppose you won't care about that And will quickly get back to your usual posts of "gurgle gurgle snort gurgle har har larg..." I'd like to be around one day when it hits you, "gosh, I've been a fucking idiot"
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kentm says
One problem, your link goes back to 2011... here is a quote from the link:
......."The scope of the proposed House cuts is massive," Clinton told reporters at a Capitol news conference after attending a luncheon meeting with House Speaker John Boehner."
The key word there is "PROPOSED", Hillary was talking about proposed cuts, not ACTUAL cuts...
Do you have any proof that these cuts were put in force???
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Of course he doesn't.
It's Smokescreen City for all the bluebloods around here...
but it's understandable...
there is no defense for Clinton's non-action in libya on the anniversary of 9/11.
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Why yes, "softshell", in a post you responded to, idiot.
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idiot. You're apparently not capable of remembering or being consistent with your own posts. How can you claim to have any credence with any of the topics you post on? You ARE looking like shrek more and more with every post.
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heh heh heh..
yes, you are right.
try programming for 12 hours on 7-11 coffee and see where your head winds up...
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And I apologize for saying 'idiot'. It's just you come out so aggressively and say these stupid things...
You know, shrek was a programmer too...
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SoftShell says
Did you call for Bush to resign after 9/11? How about Rice?
Lemme guess. NO!!!!!!!
From Wiki:
My guess is that there wasn't a single Republican in the world calling for Rice's or Bush's head. Y'all are hypocrites.
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The mayor of NYC did not ask for more federal security support.
The attack on the twin towers was not fully anticipated.
It is impossible for the federal government to cover all possible targets in the USA
The Libyan embassy did ask for more security.
Therefore, the attack on the embassy was anticipated.
It is possible for the federal government to add security, or remove personnel from dangerous situations abroad.
Your comparison does not hold water.
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You're right. It doesn't hold water. There is no comparison between the death of four Americans and the death of 3000 just after Bush finished a month long vacation in the first year of his first term by a known enemy who had attacked us before. He was briefed that Bin Laden was a serious threat and to date NOT ONE SINGLE ACTION TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY BY BUSH PRIOR TO 9/11 HAS EVER BEEN DOCUMENTED! In fact if I remember correctly Bush downgraded the threat.
Yes I think I do remember correctly:
One was an opportunistic strike by unknown attackers. The other was a well planned conspiracy that might have been avoided if someone at the Bush administration just made a call to the airport.
Bush should have been impeached and Rice should have been thrown out of office in shame (by your standards, not mine) Clinton's hindsight error in judgement pales by comparison and the only reason you can't see it is that you're a pseudo-independent Republican hack.
Calling for Clinton to resign. What a fucking joke. The hypocrisy is stunning.
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It has since come out that the people at the CIA were getting really pissed because they kept warning the Bush admin that something was going on and kept getting rebuffed. When some of the CIA execs started to press the issue to be heard, the Bushies asked them to be 'reassigned' or excluded from meetings.
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"Soft Ruki"??
We don't need to know your anatomical pet names.....
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stop deleting my posts so I don't have to repost.
you are wasting my time.
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"Okay, you've covered your ass now." -George W. Bush
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Merry Christmas 121212

I give you the hemorrhoid ring.
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So when are you going to add "3" to your education?
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"Soft Ruki"??
We don't need to know your anatomical pet names.....
121212 says
Considering how overpopulated we are, maybe this is a good thing.
There is no human dignity in this comment.
He has no honor or dignity, he is plainly soulless..
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SoftShell says
I never got the connection to Obama. It makes no sense that with all that is going on in the world, that he should have been watching only the embassy in Benghazi.
If you recall there were protests across North Africa, and every one was asking for added security. I have never seen that as a part of the reporting, but hey, it makes no difference.
Hillary is gone and Kerry will take over so you get your wish.
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Clinton should resign!
LMFAO just like Condoleezza Rice did
Just like Ronald Reagan did over Iran Contra?
Come now Softshel you want political equality look at your own Republican history.
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If you look close to the news reels you can see Hitlery, Obambam and Michelle Obambam firing at the embassy with their al quaeda buddies.
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u boyz are 3 months late and a dollar short!
This case was decided and closed pre-thanksgiving...
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