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Hedge fund no longer wants to be landlord


By DaveM_Renter   Follow   Thu, 18 Oct 2012, 2:35pm   1,062 views   14 comments
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/17/us-foreclosed-hedgefunds-idUSBRE89G1TE20121017

Investors watch out!

Reuters) - One of the first big hedge funds to try to profit from a rebound in the U.S. housing market by investing in foreclosed homes is looking to cash out, even as other institutional investors are still getting in.

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  1. The Professor


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    1   2:44pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   Protected  

    They couldn't squeeze enough rent out of the renters.

  2. MershedPerturders


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    2   3:11pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    I think they know that the city municipalities are going to respond to this. It's called slumlording.

    Why the fuck did we give these banks TRILLIONS of dollars and now they own our cities? WAKE UP!

    It's going to be a BIG problem for some time to come.

  3. CrazyMan


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    3   3:14pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    "It's not surprising that some investors may have overestimated rental returns," said Rick Sharga, executive vice president with Carrington Mortgage Holdings

    No shit, really.

  4. BobMSN


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    4   3:52pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Get burned, looking for the next sucker (;

  5. New Renter


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    5   5:10pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   Protected  

    Perhaps Iwog can help them understand where they went wrong.

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    6   5:42pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Protected  

    The Professor says

    They couldn't squeeze enough rent out of the renters.

    Yes, the thing about rents is that no one will lend you money to pay your rent.

    Rents are very real in a way that prices are not.

  7. MershedPerturders


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    7   5:49pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Patrick says

    The Professor says

    They couldn't squeeze enough rent out of the renters.

    Yes, the thing about rents is that no one will lend you money to pay your rent.

    ever heard of a Pawnshop, hommie?

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    8   6:17pm Thu 18 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    New Renter says

    Perhaps Iwog can help them understand where they went wrong.

    Once I argue with Iwog, those renting 300 units under one roof with management in place is a whole different than 300 single family houses spread in many miles.

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    9   12:15am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    MershedPerturders says

    Patrick says

    The Professor says

    They couldn't squeeze enough rent out of the renters.

    Yes, the thing about rents is that no one will lend you money to pay your rent.

    ever heard of a Pawnshop, hommie?

    What's that?

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    10   5:41am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    War says

    Go ahead….. Join their club and lose your shirt(s). Like millions before them.

    They will. There are plenty of fools who don't realise they ARE the suckers in the game.

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    11   6:21am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Buying a giant apartment complex and managing it is totally different than buying hundreds or thousands of SFH scattered across cities and managing them.

    These hedge funds got a giant discount though-at least from what I read and I guess realized the bounce is meeting resistance and want to be out and dump it on the "retail" investor.

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    12   9:51am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Patrick says

    The Professor says



    They couldn't squeeze enough rent out of the renters.


    Yes, the thing about rents is that no one will lend you money to pay your rent.


    Rents are very real in a way that prices are not.

    Exactly. Rent in my area only goes up to about $1500. Anything more than that has a very small market. So, I rather purchase $20k-$30k houses and rent out ~$600 instead of getting $1200 per month for a $120k house.

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    13   10:06am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I really have to question the Intelligence level of our(and probably the World's) economic community these days.

    Lowly me, a dofus than can't manage to balance his own check book so he let's his wife handle all of the bill paying tasks, knew that the housing Bull market wouldn't last. Even in its infancy stages. I even voiced my concerns and was called stupid even by 90% of the people, that know otherwise NOW.

    Now as these investors started buying up these houses, at a time when houses were JUST starting to come down to affordability for your better off would be home owners, to rent out. Just Who were these investors planing on renting these houses to?

    There's a ceiling for more than HALF of America's citizens that they can't afford to pay in rent, or Mortgage for that matter, and that magic number if I had to bet on it, would be between $1200-$1500.

    Sure most of those same families can scrape and save up for a deposit, and wait until their income tax return to move into a place that is $1900-$2500, but how long will they be there? Most certainly wont even make through the first year, let alone the life of their Lease.

    More over those that can afford $1900-$2500 in rent, could buy the same place for $1200-$1500 a month. ESPECIALLY with low interest rates the way they are, and the home prices falling. That is why communities around the country jumped in bed with the Iwogs to allow them to buy up all of the vacant properties, so these people would have no where to go to.

    WELP! Apparently they do, even if I were in that situation, I would move home with my family of 4 and sleep on my mothers couch, me and millions of other would be home owners. And just wait for them to lose their collective Asses, then buy those houses, for even cheaper than STOLE them for.

    An average family of 3 or 4 for that matter CAN'T afford $1900-$2100 rent, not when they are being already squeezed $1500 a month for Health insurance. No Sir indeed.

    This foot note in the Great Bubble debacle of the troubled double oughts, and another event of stupidity that caused even more depreciation in the Housing markets.

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    14   11:41am Fri 19 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    What? You mean rents can't rise above incomes without adverse effects on landlords?

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