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Desecrate times calls for disparate measures.

By CaptainShuddup   Follow   Wed, 24 Oct 2012, 1:32pm   7,010 views   41 comments
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So I'm on CNN and I see the headline link
"Fresh polls give Obama the advantage in four crucial battlegrounds"

I think OK the pollsters have some new data to report.
I read it then I get to the bottom comments and notice they are from September.
Then I scrolled back to the top and saw I missed the header.

"September 25th, 2012
11:27 AM ET
29 days ago
Fresh polls give Obama the advantage in four crucial battlegrounds"

Not any MOE!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/25/fresh-polls-give-obama-the-advantage-in-four-crucial-battlegrounds/?iref=obnetwork

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1. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

   2   11:45pm Thu 25 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   oh, has Bain bought up some voting machines in Iowa now as well?

2. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   3   6:28am Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   kentm says oh, has Bain bought up some voting machines in Iowa now as well? I hope so.

3. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

   4   7:05am Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Seems to me, the ones trying commit voter fraud are all Democrats: Police investigating son of Va. Rep. Jim Moran after video release of voter fraud discussion http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/son-of-rep-jim-moran-of-va-resigns-from-dads-campaign-after-release-of-video-on-voter-fraud/2012/10/24/c33613ac-1e3a-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html NC Voting Machines Turn Romney Votes Into Obama Votes http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/nc-voting-machines-turn-romney-votes-into-obama-votes-2510918.html

4. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

   5   7:10am Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Besides it was the Liberals that kicked this fresh turd on a hot day. Back in 2000 when they couldn't dictate that invalid votes should have counted for "THIER" guy. So it was the Liberals that tweaked the system in hopes it would give them the edge. The Republicans as always took that shit from them and beat their simple dumb ass senseless with it. It would be my hope that republicans manage to rig the machine in their favor for every election until the Liberals demand we do away with the electronic voting machines that THEY championed. Dumb pathetic twats.

5. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

   6   7:12am Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   At this point during the 2010 election, more than 2600 people over the age of 110 had allegedly already voted in North Carolina. http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/10/22/north-carolina-fountain-of-youth-or-massive-voter-fraud/

6. MsBennet Follow Befriend 4 threads 208 comments

   7   3:20pm Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Did you mean to say "disparate" times or "desperate" times?

7. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,116 comments

   8   3:38pm Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Whew! What a relief! For a minute there I was all scared that Obama was still winning both the popular and electoral vote. Oh... wait.... he still is. Drats!

8. Philistine Follow Befriend 489 comments Los Angeles, CA

   9   3:52pm Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Melmakian says The ones you WANT to see or the real ones that reflect actual reality? All polls reflect the biases of their sample group and the people conducting the poll. That includes elections.

9. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,116 comments

   10   3:53pm Fri 26 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   I'm looking at basically all of the polls combined. Hence both liberal and conservative-leaning polls and the general state of the race is that Obama has a fairly pronounced lead in the electoral count and a modest lead in the popular vote.

10. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    11   8:49am Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   Philistine says All polls reflect the biases of their sample group With out a doubt. I think if any Poll actually represented the truth, then one of the candidates would be out Kingware shopping. Poll results are serve two purposes, one poll you would release to build momentum, then a poll you would release showing the competition winning to scare supporters that are sitting on the fence. IN other words it would behoove either side to release polls at different times showing either candidate winning. Not always just showing that your side is winning. That can work against you.

11. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 907 comments Ross, CA

    12   9:51am Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   this fresh enough for you? http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/26/cnn-poll-obama-50-romney-46-in-battleground-state-of-ohio/

12. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 334 threads 922 comments

    13   11:31am Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I wish the polls would decide who the next President will be.

13. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    14   2:40pm Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says kentm says oh, has Bain bought up some voting machines in Iowa now as well? I hope so. Its the mark of your utter lack of character that you'd even joke about such a thing. Its also the mark of of your lack of character that you just accept that "each side" releases flawed and manipulated polls to support themselves. Is also a flaw of of your character that you don't seem to recognize or admit that there are independent polling sources who have provided consistently accurate measures of the state of things over the years.

14. upisdown Follow Befriend 634 comments

    15   2:57pm Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I think that the Rand Poll is the one that polls the same group over and over, but I don't know the group make-up in regards to D-R-Ind. Obama is pulling away and widening the gap daily.

15. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 2,851 comments

    16   3:20pm Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rooemoore says this fresh enough for you? http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/26/cnn-poll-obama-50-romney-46-in-battleground-state-of-ohio/ many seem to forget Ohio's current standings post 2010 elections you might have thought Ohio has a majority of Ds in Congress .. but that is not the case. U.S. Senators Sherrod Brown (D) Rob Portman (R) U.S. House delegation 13 Republicans, 5 Democrats

16. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    17   8:38pm Sat 27 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)   kentm says Its the mark of your utter lack of character that you'd even joke about such a thing. Its also the mark of of your lack of character that you just accept that "each side" releases flawed and manipulated polls to support themselves. Is also a flaw of of your character that you don't seem to recognize or admit that there are independent polling sources who have provided consistently accurate measures of the state of things over the years. If Character was hard currency I'd have enough to buy and sell you five times over, and still have a few cents left over to buy Obama a new act.

17. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    18   1:09am Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Sure... Older Drinkers Less Able to Judge When They're Drunk http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1883408,00.html#ixzz2AZxJS0TX Or maybe just the old 'downing effect': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority May I also point out that you're aggressively supporting a candidate who has no real position on any topic he's spoken on, has been shown in study after study to be lying out of his ass regarding his economic plan, and would sodomize you with a golf club if he thought it wpuld make him 10 more cents... Okay I made the last one up, but I think it's a fairly accurate distillation. So if you measure character in terms of the ability to continue with blind stupid faith, then yeah, you got me beat.

18. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    19   1:27am Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ah, and just saw this, maybe this is a polling opinion close to your liking and character: Conservative pollster: Nate Silver is wrong because he is ‘thin and effeminate’ http://mobile.rawstory.com/therawstory/#!/entry/conservative-pollster-nate-silver-is-wrong-because-he-is-thin,508c8fddd7fc7b567035d1ac

19. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    20   2:43am Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   I'm really looking forward to all the bitching and crying about how unfair the polls are and how all the voter fraud put Obama back in the White House. I hope y'all are practicing because you'll be doing a lot of it.

20. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    21   7:22am Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Madonna was booed for telling her audience to Vote Obmama. We're talking about an audience that was there to see a lady that wears titty missles. Can't get much more Liberal than that. Even the liberals are tired of his Shit.

21. Elwood P Dowd Follow Befriend 27 comments Clinton, MA

    22   7:46am Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says I'm really looking forward to all the bitching and crying about how unfair the polls are and how all the voter fraud put Obama back in the White House. I hope y'all are practicing because you'll be doing a lot of it. Which of course means Democrats and Republicans are brothers under the skin, given all the whining in 2000 and even 2004 by Dems, right? FWIW, Real Clear Politics with their averaging of recent polls has Romney ahead in the popular vote by 0.9%, though when you look at each individual poll the figures are all over the map: The Washington Times(!) has Obama ahead by 3% and Gallup has Romney ahead by 5%. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html PS: I do think Obama will win, but that as rhetoric moved to reality post-election the reality of the difference between an Obama and Romney administration would've been as hard to make out as the difference between two lima beans.

22. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    23   2:41pm Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   Elwood P Dowd says Which of course means Democrats and Republicans are brothers under the skin, given all the whining in 2000 and even 2004 by Dems, right? Wrong. There is no comparison. A group of scientists got together and wrote a paper detailing legitimate concerns about statistical impossibilities in the Ohio election. In contrast, Republicans paid people to storm election offices in Florida during the recount because they needed the video to make it seem like the election was being stolen. Democrats respond like a group of civilized and educated intellectuals. Republicans respond like a pack of frenzied apes. When Obama wins in November, there is going to be outrage and horror combined with vehement hatred of the United States and 50% of its voting citizens. Most Republicans are GOP religious zealots and will respond like animals.

23. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 168 threads 5,100 comments

    24   3:10pm Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Elwood P Dowd says PS: I do think Obama will win, but that as rhetoric moved to reality post-election the reality of the difference between an Obama and Romney administration would've been as hard to make out as the difference between two lima beans. I don't know about that. After thinking it through, I'm of the opinion that it might make a huge difference in ways that are not so intuitive. Romney will not have nearly the resistance from congress that Obama does. Initially, this realization caused me to ponder whether a ROmney admin might be better at addressing problems than an Obama admin in 2013 - 2016 (not withstanding possible supreme court impact). But then I considered what ROmney would potentially get done, in collaboration with an ultra right wing house, and in deals with the senate. Strong possibilities include: Massive decreases in tax revenues Increased government spending on military Privatizing government services that should not be privatized. It's impossible to predict what the outcome of massive deficit increases, and a dramatic further increase in wealth inequality, but a good guess is that it would mean that we move closer than ever to being like a third world country. Not to even mention the possiblilty of another unnecessary war.

24. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 204 threads 4,416 comments Davis, CA

    25   11:39pm Sun 28 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Do "desparate" times also call for disabling spellcheck?

25. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

    26   12:41pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)

26. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    27   12:44pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax In October 2008, Ashley Todd, a volunteer for the U.S. presidential campaign of Republican John McCain,[1] falsely claimed to have been the victim of robbery and politically motivated physical assault by a supporter of McCain's Democratic opponent Barack Obama.[2] The story broke less than two weeks before the 2008 United States presidential election on November 4. Todd later confessed to inventing the story after surveillance photos and a polygraph test were presented. She was charged with filing a false police report, and entered a probation program for first-time offenders. Todd's story received international attention, including prominent coverage on Drudge Report and Fox News. John Moody, executive vice president at Fox News, commented in a blog on the network's website that "this incident could become a watershed event in the 11 days before the election," but also warned that "[i]f the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."[8] Republicans will do anything. They are motivated by hatred not reason. Fear not hope. Hyper-nationalism and not inclusiveness. There is no conservative movement in the United States. There is only a fascist one.

27. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    28   1:00pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   The more you folks call people stupid and racists, that rationalizing voting for a man they believe will do a better a job than Obama. The more you're proving the sentiment in the sign zzyzzx posted right. I mean most white people have only had four years of being called Stupid, Racist, and every other vile word in the book. Though you might not think these guys shouldn't care about the religious class you're really despising. They are somebodies folks at the end of the day. And it begins to ware on them and they feel you're also attacking all white people. It was the Left that has made this election about Race, and now that is biting them in the ass they are pissed off. The funny thing, these guys aren't voting because they think Obama is black and they hate him. NO, they are revolting the apologist Liberal nanny in your face let's regulate everything you do, then call you names Liberals. Even black guys are called names for Voting republican. The ones that actually want to make a life for them selves, aren't with the White Liberal agenda. "Here you go live over here in the projects while we go to Ivy League schools, and we'll give you a check every month. Poor poor you, Whittie is always trying to keep you down." They are on to that shit too. But you refuse to believe that even the case.

28. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 31 threads 2,265 comments Premium

    29   1:10pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Desecrate times calls for disparate measures. Captain, I must ask, are you really a programmer and if so then how do you function? Computers are extremely literal, so even the slightest error of spelling, word choice, or syntax can result in failure. Also, computers demand rigorous logic. Reading your comments, I cannot imagine you programming computers. Then again, I also can't believe Marcus claiming to be a math teacher.

29. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    30   1:13pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected   CaptainShuddup says The more you folks call people stupid and racists, that rationalizing voting for a man they believe will do a better a job than Obama. Being called names isn't a good reason for casting a vote although I can see why Republicans would put it above policy.

30. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    31   1:27pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   curious2 says so even the slightest error of spelling I don't have to worry about the string values goes inside the quotes. That is either user supplied or came from the database. Most good programmers are famous for typos and their penmanship is horrendous. Syntax errors on the other hand is far less subtle and are usually caught as I type them. Sure my parameter names may be misspelled, but I really don't care. I have a motto, I'm not concerned with what something is called, I only worry about what it does. It's a different thought process I guess. But I'm always the guy people go to when they are through pulling their hair out over a complex problem. Just don't ask me to document it.

31. upisdown Follow Befriend 634 comments

    32   1:29pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says When Obama wins in November, there is going to be outrage and horror combined with vehement hatred of the United States and 50% of its voting citizens. Most Republicans are GOP religious zealots and will respond like animals. Look at what the right wing has done just since Obama got elected, as there are 50 or so incidents of them destroying lives, property and even themselves based solely on their ideology. From killing cops to committing various crimes which WAS predicted in a memo by Homeland Security, that they would behave that way. The only thing that would have made them behave worse was if Michelle obama had been elected.

32. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    33   1:32pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Uh Oh there goes more of those Liberal biased unsubstantiated facts Patrick swears by.

33. upisdown Follow Befriend 634 comments

    34   1:43pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   You are saying that NONE of those things happened?? That figures, and that not only follows the rational of the whole right wing in regards to themselves, but toward others too.

34. upisdown Follow Befriend 634 comments

    35   6:09pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Melmakian says Proof please. For all 50 'incidents'. Thank you. I'l reply with the standard right winger answer: "Go look it up your self, I'm not your Google-bitch". I will give you a hint though, check Crooks and liars because they had a running total.Melmakian says They're called the oathkeepers or some stupid shit like that, which you're probably a member of. What cops have been killed by identified registered Republicans in the name of 'ideology'? Melmakian says Sean Kedzie, Son Of Wisconsin State Senator, Beaten Defending Romney Sign LOLOLOL I've always say right wingers can't, and won't fight to save anybody's life or even their own, but they talk a mile of shit like they can. Now it's proven.

35. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    36   6:13pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Melmakian says And they just LOVE FactCheck.org...a propaganda arm of the Annenberg Foundation, which both Obama and Bill Ayer's worked for in the past. I always cite Pulitzer prize winning Politifact instead of FactCheck. I'm sure you'll let us know why they are part of the worldwide liberal conspiracy. BTW which site do you use Shrek? OH THAT'S RIGHT!!!!! YOU DON'T BOTHER WITH SOURCES! It's all conjured up on the fly.

36. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    37   7:56pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Well you know if Politicofact said it then that's good enough for them. They don't need no stinking sources.

37. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    38   9:03pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   Melmakian says That's rich coming from the Duck who just spent several postings on here refusing to provide any for the bs he posted that started this thread. Other than the source I provided for the BS I posted. You may piss and moan, but it's a source. For the record, I would never challenge someone's facts without facts of my own, but that's just me. I can understand why you do differently. It's lame, but you really don't have a choice when you attempt to draw doubt on reality. Melmakian says Then provide some. So far I haven't seen you provide jack shit. PolitiFact is acceptable. A crapshoot some times, but I'm willing to take my chances. Now...PRODUCE the citations, Duck. For what exactly?

38. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 274 threads 12,576 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    39   9:05pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   CaptainShuddup says Well you know if Politicofact said it then that's good enough for them. They don't need no stinking sources. All this BS about sources isn't even tangential anymore. It's running away shrieking and scared because none of you zealots want to talk about the subject matter.

39. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 250 threads 4,758 comments

    40   11:04am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   Politicofact does nothing but quote someone, then they produce a graphic that confers with their opinion. It's not like the Liberal media doesn't think everyone but them is stupid. Gullible wouldn't be a far stretch.

40. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 416 threads 4,138 comments Baltimore, MD

    41   11:14am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204846304578090820229096046.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_opinion Desperate Democrats are now hanging their hopes on a new Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News poll showing the president with a five-point Ohio lead. But that survey gives Democrats a +8 advantage in turnout, the same advantage Democrats had in 2008. That assumption is, to put it gently, absurd.

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