« previous   misc   next »

The world celebrates Obama win


By iwog   Follow   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:21am PST   1,423 views   26 comments
Watch (0)   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

If you turn on AM radio for 5 minutes, you'll find some moron preaching how Obama has destroyed our image in the world and how Obama's international incompetence is costing the United States prestige and power.

That's bullshit mountain. Here's a clip from the real world:

In Foreign Press, Cheers for an Obama Win and 'Olympic Levels of Schadenfraude' for Romney

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-07/an-obama-win-and-olympic-levels-of-schadenfraude-for-foreign-press

Comments 1-26 of 26     Last »

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 1

'cept that's an American at the US embassy.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:41am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 2

iwog says

That's bullshit mountain. Here's a clip from the real world:

you only quote Left Wing Euro papers.. how convenient.

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:47am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 3

This guy celebrated by creating a sand sculpture of O.J. Simpson.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:50am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 4

I pity the Spanish papers who said..

"Spain’s El Pais had an article highlighting the role of Hispanic voters, entitled: “Hispanics Decisive in the Reelection of Obama.” Citing exit polls showing Obama had won 75 percent of Hispanic votes, the article read: “Election night showed that any candidate aspiring to the presidency must have them on his side.”

There are many native Californians with Hispanic legacy often ignored by the left wing media because they are not only Conservative.. but they dont consider themselves as any different from Anglo nor do they speak Spanish or easily drop into some ethnic category voting block.

iwog   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:51am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 5

thomaswong.1986 says

you only quote Left Wing Euro papers.. how convenient.

Actually I quoted Businessweek, a well known liberal rag.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:55am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

iwog says

Actually I quoted Businessweek, a well known liberal rag.

and BW quoted the left wing nut jobs...
BW is Bloomberg Press.
The real BW died out years ago.

iwog   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 2:58am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 7

thomaswong.1986 says

and BW quoted the left wing nut jobs...
BW is Bloomberg Press.
The real BW died out years ago.

Do you know what I would do in your situation? I would find some foreign newspaper accounts that contradicted Businessweek and supported your (assumed) point that Obama is bad for foreign relations.

Either you don't know how to do that, or you can't do that because once again this is just another trip up bullshit mountain and your alternate reality.

edvard2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:10am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 8

I see no need to argue today. We won. Ta-da!

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:12am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 9

I love Stewart's "Bullshit Mountain" thing.

Too bad the 2010 wave election gave the Republicans the power to gerrymander things, it's going to take a long time to undo this damage to the system.

Not looking forward to what's cooking in DC, though. To actually solve our problems is going to take some real sacrifice.

Not something this country has been willing to do, not since 1994 if not earlier.

The Republicans are right that government is getting pretty big -- $6.5T in spending next year, that's an even $50,000 per job in this country.

How does that even work???

curious2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

Bellingham Bill says

How does that even work?

It doesn't. Spending will need to be cut, but priorities are lobby-driven. Jerry Brown returned to Sacramento expecting to cut wasteful spending, but then found he could only cut things that were actually needed. The most wasteful spending is the most protected, because the excess gets shared with lobbyists and patronage networks. It goes way beyond campaign finance, encompassing the revolving door and all sorts of side deals. (Legislator is invited to buy land near a future government project, votes for the project, makes $$$$ off the increased land value, etc.) This is one reason I think many supporters of ObamaCare are in for disappointment, because the promised subsidies will almost certainly be cut and yet the mandate will remain. It's also why I think the problems within the Republican party are in fact national problems: if the choice is between a patronage network and an apocalyptic cult, the country chooses the lesser of two evils, but that doesn't bode well.

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 11

curious2 says

because the promised subsidies will almost certainly be cut

The subsidies are indeed substantial . . .

If I gross $45,000 (about the maximum to still qualify for the subsidy), it's $3000 towards my health care.

At $25,000 income level, I'd get a $6,000 tax credit.

I think this economy can handle much higher taxation to pay for all of this, but getting there from here is going to be . . . interesting. Plus if they just raise my taxes $3000 to give me a $3000 tax credit what's the f'n pint . . .

Alas, the state level is just as screwed up as Federal if not more.

WA and CO were two of my bug-out regions . . . hmmm. Not that I want to become a pothead but I like states with a (left-)libertarian streak that don't have the disastrous financial future of CA.

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:41am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 12

oh, yeah, iwog, congrats on exceeding the 10,000 threshold!

Think I'll quit at 6,000, well, 6,001 now.

iwog   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:42am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 13

Bellingham Bill says

oh, yeah, iwog, congrats on exceeding the 10,000 threshold!

Think I'll quit at 6,000, well, 6,001 now.

Yikes. :(

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 3:44am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 14

Need to get some work done this year, LOL.

edvard2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 4:57am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 15

robertoaribas says

your analysis is just about as ignorant as your predictions were... I voted obama, and I assure you, your dimes don't mean squat to me.

Want Democrats to win in 2016 and beyond? As long as those on the right keep right on spouting off the same old crap they've been doing- such as complaining about entitlements, blaming the "liberals" for their problems, using the outdated 1950's scare tactic of communism as a talking point, and coming up with bizarre conspiracies, then democrats will basically continue to win. So if some folks on the right want to continue rambling.... so be it. Its for the Democrat's benefit...

dublin hillz   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 5:09am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

edvard2 says

robertoaribas says



your analysis is just about as ignorant as your predictions were... I voted obama, and I assure you, your dimes don't mean squat to me.


Want Democrats to win in 2016 and beyond? As long as those on the right keep right on spouting off the same old crap they've been doing- such as complaining about entitlements, blaming the "liberals" for their problems, using the outdated 1950's scare tactic of communism as a talking point, and coming up with bizarre conspiracies, then democrats will basically continue to win. So if some folks on the right want to continue rambling.... so be it. Its for the Democrat's benefit...

That requires that they actually learn to think strategically which they have demonstrated trouble in. The election would have been closer electorally if Herman Cain ran compared to Mr Bain.

EBGuy   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 5:16am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

What a difference 8 years makes. Back then, it was the Dems scratching their head wondering "How the heck did we re-elect HIM!?"

edvard2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 5:24am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 18

dublin hillz says

That requires that they actually learn to think strategically which they have demonstrated trouble in. The election would have been closer electorally if Herman Cain ran compared to Mr Bain.

I was of course being a bit sarcastic. But in all seriousness, Republicans and their constituents need to have a serious conversation amongst themselves. The sort of typical right-winger drivel spewed over the air waves, on various blogs, and so on that we've been hearing for years is only appealing to a certain and narrow cross segment of the population: The people who voted for Romney last night. But that's the problem for them: there aren't enough of "them" to make a difference anymore. In the meantime that same sort of language is a big turn-off for everyone else, and in particular, the increasingly majority minority population that favors Democrats.

So in essence, whenever they start going on and on about communism, liberals, conspiracies, and so on, they're basically talking to themselves and that's not going to do anything other than ensure that they aren't going to win anymore elections until they decide to consider making some changes.

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 5:47am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

EBGuy says

"How the heck did we re-elect HIM!?"

100,000 votes away in OH. Bush wanted to be the war president so it was tough booting him out in the middle of his war when hundreds of troops were getting whacked in Iraq each month.

Curiously, I see Obama got fewer votes this time around compared to Bush's 2004 showing. Past 8 years have been pretty shitty for Americans overall so I don't blame people for not voting for Kang or Kodos, really.

The real solutions are going to require some tough politics, and the system just isn't structured to go there yet, nor are the American people yet.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 6:04am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

robertoaribas says

I don't want a president making irresponsible comments about Russia and China. We don't need to go out of our way to make enemies.

You mean the Govts in China and Russia somehow are unaware of the constant internet cyber warfare attacks that is being waged my their military and intel services against US, Western nations and our allies. At stake is the national security of many nations.

Your being naive. Harsh warnings should be made and they should be forced to deal with the consequences of their actions.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 6:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 21

edvard2 says

The people who voted for Romney last night. But that's the problem for them: there aren't enough of "them" to make a difference anymore. In the meantime that same sort of language is a big turn-off for everyone else, and in particular, the increasingly majority minority population that favors Democrats.

fairly close... 60m dem vs 57m gop...

so who are 'them"... no need to worry!

the older you get the more likely hood of many turning GOP..

YOU CAN NOT STOP TIME ! IT WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU.

Heck even Obama by the time he reaches 60 may sound more like GW Bush!

curious2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 7:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

thomaswong.1986 says

the older you get the more likely hood of many turning GOP..

That stopped being true when religious fanatics hijacked the GOP and turned it into a deficit-financed patronage network of holy warriors.

BoomAndBustCycle   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 7:55am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

Bellingham Bill says

Not something this country has been willing to do, not since 1994 if not earlier.

I don't know.. Los Angeles voted in a tax increase with PROP 30... I'd say that was a pretty selfless act for the sake of education.

Bellingham Bill   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 8:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 24

BoomAndBustCycle says

I'd say that was a pretty selfless act for the sake of education.

Thing is, 30's a stick-it-to-the-rich thing, other than the half-point rise in sales tax, which is $5 for every $1000 stuff you buy each year.

The Republicans have arrayed themselves against such "class warfare" on the "job creators".

Dunno what's going to happen with the current status quo heading towards the fiscal cliff. Tough reading those tea leaves.

curious2   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 9:50am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

Bellingham Bill says

Dunno what's going to happen with the current status quo heading towards the fiscal cliff. Tough reading those tea leaves.

If history is any guide, the sequence will be (1) kick the can down the road, (2) blame the other side.

Bigsby   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 10:06am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 26

Melmakian says

You want to use the fruits of some people's labor for other people's health care. Wasn't slavery abolished?

Are you laughing when you type shite like that?

iwog is moderator of this thread.

Email

Username

Watch comments by email

home   top   questions or suggestions? write p@patrick.net