Asians 74 to 25 for Obama


By DukeLaw   Follow   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 11:18am   745 views   10 comments
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According to some readers on Patrick, all those people voting for Obama are "shiftless loafers" which I guess encompasses the best educated (and supposedly the hardest working) minority population in the US.

The Republicans have "easy" stories on how African Americans vote, on how Latinos vote but what's the meme on the Asian vote? How do you frame that story?

David Brooks tried on PBS last night. Maybe the evangelical side of the Republican Party is a turn off to both the Asian Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, and moderate Christians? Perhaps that notion of individual self-sufficiency is a turn-off to populations raised on communal family values which espouses taking care of your extended family and friends.

I don't know, but Republican strategists should start dissecting why their message didn't resonate at all with nearly all of the well-educated Asians I know.

Just sayin'.....

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  1. curious2


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    1   11:48am Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    DukeLaw says

    Maybe the evangelical side of the Republican Party is a turn off to both the Asian Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, and moderate Christians?

    I certainly hope so. And it isn't just the "evangelical side," even "mainstream" Republicans declare America a "Christian country" and try to impose Pat Robertson's definition of that upon us all.

  2. thomaswong.1986


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    2   12:22pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    DukeLaw says

    David Brooks tried on PBS last night. Maybe the evangelical side of the Republican Party is a turn off to both the Asian Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims, and moderate Christians?

    Do you see Christians killing ourself like the Muslim sects are doing today, do you ?

    Kind of a turn off.. dont you think

    No wonder Christianity +2 BIllion and still growing...

    The World Evangelical Alliance is "a network of churches in 128 nations that have each formed an evangelical alliance and over 100 international organizations joining together to give a worldwide identity, voice and platform" to an estimated more than 600 million evangelical Christians.

    Catholic Church membership (both lay and clerical) in 2007 was 1.147 billion people, having increased from 437 million in 1950 and 654 million in 1970

    On 31 December 2011, membership was 1.196 billion, an increase of 11.54% over the same date in 2000, which was only slightly greater than the rate of increase of the world population (10.77%). The increase was 33.02% in Africa, but only 1.17% in Europe. It was 15.91% in Asia, 11.39% in Oceania and 10.93% in the Americas. As a result, Catholics were 17.77% of the total population in Africa, 63.10% in the Americas, 3.05% in Asia, 39.97% in Europe, 26.21% in Oceania and 17.09% of the world population.

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    3   12:30pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    DukeLaw says

    all those people voting for Obama are "shiftless loafers"

    ...and a slovenly house keeper too!

  4. Tim Aurora


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    4   12:36pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I am Asian Indian and there are many things that turn me ( and my friends) off about the republican parties

    * Failure to acknowledge Science : Environmental issues ( global warming ) , refusing to accept Darwin's theory ( yes in south they try to portray Darwin's theory just as a theory and believe that Adam and Eve are the real ancestors). I am not an Al Gore fan but accept the reality and let us go from there
    * Spinning our world relation: The hawkish republican party ( neocons) is very jingoistic and spins there world relations to an extreme. Comments like “They hate us for our Freedom” is an utter nonsense
    * Fiscal irresponsibility : While one would think that Republicans would be fiscal conservatives, that is not entirely true. Bill Clinton was the last president to balance the budget and Bush left with a depression in site. Military spending: Republicans talk about deficit yet they spend the most on military and they use jingoistic slogans ( see above) to justify themselves.
    Big Business spin: Hey I am all for free enterprise but

    So all I am saying that I am fiscal conservative and a social liberal and I do not see the republican party actually being either.

  5. Tim Aurora


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    5   12:38pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    And BTW my house hold income is more than 250K and both my wife and I have a masters

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    6   12:42pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    I am Asian but I did not vote for Obama, the liar in chief! I will never vote democrat.

  7. DukeLaw


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    7   1:44pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Thomas, you seem to be confusing evangelicals with Christianity as a whole. I'm not even sure why you're lumping in Catholics in with them but whatever floats your boat. I really only mentioned Muslims because of the Indonesians in the population. I'm not even sure what the Indonesian American population is in the US.

    @Mel, that just then begs the question why there wasn't any Republican outreach. Frankly for the ABI and ABCs, I'd say that our parents vote Republican (mainly due to anti-communism sentiment) but that the Gen 1.5/Gen 2 are trending Democrat (and yes, you can try to shoehorn in your "facts" on how those of us with graduate degrees somehow didn't cover econ or history in college/grad school--As if rural Deep South white voters w/o high school degrees are somehow mysteriously better educated on econ or history).

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    8   1:55pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Melmakian says

    And even if you are ok with that, where do you get the moral authority to decide what to do with OTHER people's money?

    Anyone who supports taxes asserts the moral authority of government to decide what to do with other people's money.

    Either you agree with this and thus you don't actually understand what you believe, OR you're against all taxes.

    Which is it?

  9. DukeLaw


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    9   1:57pm Wed 7 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    "Moral Authority"? That's usually derived as an inherent contract of society to provide mutual support and infrastructure for each other. If you have problems with a military, police, firefighters, highways, schools, feel free to go to a place where people aren't "cattle".

    I'm intrigued by the notion that Democrats who vote are cattle. What are you? Are you swallowing the notion that whites are genetically superior? That dinosaurs roamed the earth with mankind? That starting two wars and cutting taxes was fiscally responsible? That a blastocyte is a human being? It's more scary to think that you put thought into these positions and think that they are reasonable.

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    10   12:08am Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Melmakian says

    Tim Aurora says

    And BTW my house hold income is more than 250K and both my wife and I have a masters

    Which only shows that you have more education than rationality, from what I've been reading. That is your right, of course.

    You DO realize that you and your wife are nothing but cattle to the Dems, right?

    And even if you are ok with that, where do you get the moral authority to decide what to do with OTHER people's money?

    The GOP is not perfect, for many of the reasons you outlined. But a world w/o a GOP is a world the Dems will be unchecked to turn America into New Argentina.

    The constitution delivers the legal authority for the Federal government to not only levy taxes but decide where it gets spent.

    I thought you baggers loved the constitution?

    You attitude towards other people's decisions is just one of the reasons we Indian-Americans and other Asian-Americans are turned off to the GOP.

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