Watchhttp://consumerist.com/2012/11/05/hoa-installs-radar-issues-speeding-tickets/
Drivers caught violating the max. 30 mph speed limit in the community will be subject for fines from anywhere from $15 to $100, depending on how fast they are driving.
If the violating driver is a visitor of the subdivision, their ticket will be given to whichever homeowner they are visiting at the time.
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In England, when local residents don't like a speed enforcement camera, they sling a tire over the post that the camera is mounted on, pour some gas into the low spot, and set the thing on fire.
I could see a similar "solution" being useful here.
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I am so confused by republicans and their love of gated communities. I thought they were supposed to be all about small government and liberty? Being told what color to paint your house and being fined for not mowing your lawn does not seem like the bastion of freedom.
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unstoppable says
HOA's have nothing to do with politics.
Anyway, I was thinking that based upon this article, that if there is someone in this development that you hated, you could, in theory, speed through this neighborhood, then park on their driveway long enough for them to see you. Then drive away. You would have to do this when they were not home.
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I am also thinking that this article shows a new low for HOA's.
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Clearly the members of that HOA are in favor of the camera otherwise they could have voted against it.
I am not a fan of HOA, but it is not a dictatorship. If the members of the HOA are against something, they can definitely rally support from the other members to get rid of it.
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Probably there are kids on the street and a tot lot playground. In a residential community, 30 mph is not unreasonable. Some parents thought is was important so it was a function of the homeowner's desire. How fast do you want to go?
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Trivial says
Let me tell you about the HOA, and I live in one.
Either way it's just another layer of politics. It works well if you have like minded neighbors. Once you get too many spenders, it gets nasty.
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I question the part where they say that sheriff can't enforce traffic laws on private property. This is not the case where I live: local police (which is under sheriff's office since the city department was dismantled last year) is more then willing to issue citations and tow cars parked outside designated parking spots on HOA property.
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SFace says
You do know that if there are kids playing in the street, that's illegal and their parents should be punished. That's what back yards and parks are for.
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zzyzzx says
Actually, it's only illegal if the locality has adopted an ordinance prohibiting kids from playing in the street. Without such an ordinance, it is not illegal. Did you already look up the ordinance for this Colorado locality or were you um... speculating?
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I want to know what they are going to do with the money they collect in fines.
Next they will be hiring a security guard and buying a patrol car...
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zzyzzx says
I don't think the kids are on the street. They may have to cross the street to get into the comunity tot lot. With a 5 year old, they can run across the sidewalk in front of a parked car. being 46 inches, they can be invisisble and a car going more than 30 mph can be extremely dangerous. I never heard of an accident where cars are going 20.
From my perspective, it's a good rule. It's just a few blocks of caution, if you can't accept that, you're just a serial complainer.
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HOA who pay for their own streets can basically pass any binding rule they want on residents if the residents approve of the rules according the the covenants and restrictions.
The caveat is that such rules cannot conflict with city, county, state or federal ordinances, in which case the HOA rules are non-binding.
A HOA cannot, for instance, prevent residents from using satellite dishes, because federal laws specifically permit them.
HOA cannot enforce placing garbage cans in garages, for instance, if the garage contains the ventilation heat/air due to federal laws that prohibit placing garbage in proximity to ventilation systems.
If you want to defeat a HOA rule, just find a county, city, state of federal law it conflicts with. If you can't find any, you are out of luck.
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zzyzzx says
Speaking as a city kid the streets are the best playground. Nothing like a game of street football where you shake your defender by jumping into the bed of a parked pickup, therefore executing the perfect post rout.
When you live in a grid system with distributed traffic flows side streets are plenty safe for kids to muck about in.
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SFace says
You don't have a problem with ticket for somebody's moving violation going to you only because your house allegedly happens to be their destination? Wow.
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grendel says
It's illegal in Baltimore City, where I live and have looked it up. It should be illegal everywhere.
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APOCALYPSEFUCK,
What happens to those gated HOA communities when cannibal anarchy arrives?
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Those gates make great pikes for severed heads and discarded breast implants.