HOA Installs Radar, Issues Speeding Tickets


By zzyzzx   Follow   Wed, 7 Nov 2012, 11:51am   1,068 views   14 comments
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http://consumerist.com/2012/11/05/hoa-installs-radar-issues-speeding-tickets/

Drivers caught violating the max. 30 mph speed limit in the community will be subject for fines from anywhere from $15 to $100, depending on how fast they are driving.

If the violating driver is a visitor of the subdivision, their ticket will be given to whichever homeowner they are visiting at the time.

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  1. grendel


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    1   12:58am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

    In England, when local residents don't like a speed enforcement camera, they sling a tire over the post that the camera is mounted on, pour some gas into the low spot, and set the thing on fire.

    I could see a similar "solution" being useful here.

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    2   7:49am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (2)  

    I am so confused by republicans and their love of gated communities. I thought they were supposed to be all about small government and liberty? Being told what color to paint your house and being fined for not mowing your lawn does not seem like the bastion of freedom.

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    unstoppable says

    I am so confused by republicans and their love of gated communities. I thought they were supposed to be all about small government and liberty? Being told what color to paint your house and being fined for not mowing your lawn does not seem like the bastion of freedom.

    HOA's have nothing to do with politics.

    Anyway, I was thinking that based upon this article, that if there is someone in this development that you hated, you could, in theory, speed through this neighborhood, then park on their driveway long enough for them to see you. Then drive away. You would have to do this when they were not home.

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    4   8:06am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    I am also thinking that this article shows a new low for HOA's.

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    Clearly the members of that HOA are in favor of the camera otherwise they could have voted against it.

    I am not a fan of HOA, but it is not a dictatorship. If the members of the HOA are against something, they can definitely rally support from the other members to get rid of it.

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    6   10:23am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Trivial says

    Clearly the members of that HOA are in favor of the camera otherwise they could have voted against it.

    I am not a fan of HOA, but it is not a dictatorship. If the members of the HOA are against something, they can definitely rally support from the other members to get rid of it.

    Let me tell you about the HOA, and I live in one.

    Either way it's just another layer of politics. It works well if you have like minded neighbors. Once you get too many spenders, it gets nasty.

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    7   10:54am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    SFace says

    Probably there are kids on the street

    You do know that if there are kids playing in the street, that's illegal and their parents should be punished. That's what back yards and parks are for.

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    8   11:00am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    zzyzzx says

    SFace says

    Probably there are kids on the street

    You do know that if there are kids playing in the street, that's illegal and their parents should be punished. That's what back yards and parks are for.

    Actually, it's only illegal if the locality has adopted an ordinance prohibiting kids from playing in the street. Without such an ordinance, it is not illegal. Did you already look up the ordinance for this Colorado locality or were you um... speculating?

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    I want to know what they are going to do with the money they collect in fines.

    Next they will be hiring a security guard and buying a patrol car...

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    10   11:12am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    HOA who pay for their own streets can basically pass any binding rule they want on residents if the residents approve of the rules according the the covenants and restrictions.

    The caveat is that such rules cannot conflict with city, county, state or federal ordinances, in which case the HOA rules are non-binding.

    A HOA cannot, for instance, prevent residents from using satellite dishes, because federal laws specifically permit them.

    HOA cannot enforce placing garbage cans in garages, for instance, if the garage contains the ventilation heat/air due to federal laws that prohibit placing garbage in proximity to ventilation systems.

    If you want to defeat a HOA rule, just find a county, city, state of federal law it conflicts with. If you can't find any, you are out of luck.

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    11   11:16am Thu 8 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    zzyzzx says

    SFace says

    Probably there are kids on the street

    You do know that if there are kids playing in the street, that's illegal and their parents should be punished. That's what back yards and parks are for.

    Speaking as a city kid the streets are the best playground. Nothing like a game of street football where you shake your defender by jumping into the bed of a parked pickup, therefore executing the perfect post rout.
    When you live in a grid system with distributed traffic flows side streets are plenty safe for kids to muck about in.

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    grendel says

    Actually, it's only illegal if the locality has adopted an ordinance prohibiting kids from playing in the street. Without such an ordinance, it is not illegal. Did you already look up the ordinance for this Colorado locality or were you um... speculating?

    It's illegal in Baltimore City, where I live and have looked it up. It should be illegal everywhere.

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    13   7:07pm Fri 9 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    APOCALYPSEFUCK,
    What happens to those gated HOA communities when cannibal anarchy arrives?

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    14   7:59pm Fri 9 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Those gates make great pikes for severed heads and discarded breast implants.

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