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Election 2012 Wrap-up


By freesense   Follow   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 3:20am PST   2,889 views   42 comments   Watch (1)   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

Thought you might like to know why Mitt Romney will not be assuming the Oval in January. I know, I know, he got fewer Electoral votes and fewer real votes too. But to understand why there was no *Midnight Miracle*(nightmare, if you're a Progressive), a la Ohio 2004, read MCM's letter.

Among other things for all of us to ponder, King Karl *hates* to lose. Until he breathes his last, he will always be plotting bigger and better (read stealthier) ways to steal what he wants. We've not put paid to him with this "win."

Subject: *Score one (at last) for the Election Integrity movement!

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2012/11/score-one-at-last-for-the-election-integrity-movement

* by *Mark Crispin Miller*
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Besides the odd Justice, or two, there are other ways in which Obama, for
all his failings, is still better to deal with than Mitt the Misanthrope.
fit *OBAMACARE - HOW IT HELPS THOSE 50 to 64

http://www.aarp.org/health/health-care-reform/info-01-2011/the_new_health_care_law_what_it_does_for_people_ages_50_64.html

* aarp 08-00-12

If you're a chick.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/charts-voter-guide-war-women-ladyparts-infographic-election

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And a few of my own thoughts from Monday, most now rendered moot, but still of interest.

( RACE TIED BUT MOST THINK OBAMA WILL WIN

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE89K0A920121030

This presents a huge problem for the Election-Thefters (read, Rove, Karl Christian). In order to avoid waking up enough sheeple, he will have to be more careful how he goes about it.

By being able to commandeer a portion of Republican votes from 19, now exit-poll blacked-out, states, along with a teetotally screwed up Mid-Atlantic/New England 'Blue States' bonanza (no electricity means, at the very least, not much early voting with fewer folks able or willing to brave the wait on Election Day - don't hold your breath waiting for the most obvious fix to this dilemma - delaying E-D for two weeks), Rove has plenty of phantom votes to fill in where needed in the battleground states. It helps that the Dem vote totals will be lessened thanks to Dame Sandy.

The problem for him is that he must do so in a way that doesn't produce a noticeable "bulge" between the Presidential totals and those for local and state races in the BG states. If Obama does well in even 4 of the 7 BG states (splitting the other 3 or 4) it's hard to see how Rove & Co. can square that circle.

I do know this: after watching this miserable specimen of a Homo sapiens go about his dirty business for the past decade, if there is any way to pull this off, he will. NjW

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Professor Cole thinks we may have dodged a really big bullet.

rig 12 ROMNEY - WOULD HE STEER THE U.S TOWARDS A CAPITALIST DICTATORSHIP

http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/5-disturbing-signs-romney-would-steer-us-towards-capitalist-dictatorship

Juan Cole alternet 11-03-12

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Finally, in the freaky coincidences department

Let's see, Sandy 2012, no-name, early 2012, Irene 2011: Two-and-a-half 100-year storms in 2 years landing at almost the same place on the East Coast. Why?

Really, really bad luck? Warming? Or something else? How about 'red states'? Why not any of them? Katrina (also with plenty of HAARP buzz) only managed to diasporize half of New Orleans' blacks to the four corners of the country turning it, overnight, into a GOP kind of town, so, you could say that also fits the red-miss/blue-hit pattern.

How long do the Vegas odds need to get before the laws of probability are stretched beyond the snapping point?

Where am I going with this?

There is another possibility. Like global warming, it's only a 'theory." Unlike GW, there is less meat on the bone with this one.

*HAARP
* (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) - a DARPA (folks who brought us the Internet) program worked on intermittently since the 50s, but come full-flower in this Century - is the super-duper, secret, directed-energy machine worked on by Nicola Tesla

https://www.google.com/search?source=ig&rlz=1R2TSNF_enUS416&q=tesla+death&oq=tesla+death&gs_l=igoogle.1.1.0l10.1054.4051.0.12537.11.100.0.0.0.3033.3505.4-1j9-1.2.0...0.0...1ac.1.rKW0_WEK7VM>for
the last 25 years of his life (died April 7, 1943 - 2 days later, all his papers and working models were removed from his residence and workshop by government agents, none to be heard from again until a FOIA request shone some light in the Late 80s).

Tesla saw it as an source of limitless free energy (which seems to me it was). Once the financiers saw that he would not give them control of his invention (after some remarkable demonstrations as to its effectiveness) in order to obtain funding, he was denied access to capital to develop and market the idea. He spent much of the 30s searching in vain for someone with the guts to go against the secret societies. Somebodies must have thought his idea was a real threat to the status quo.

Tesla's machine was powerful. It was nick-named *The Death Ray*. In Alaska, there is a huge, well-guarded installation that houses HAARP. I've read enough to believe there is some credibility to reports that this device (or devices) is capable of affecting the atmosphere and not in a good way.

There is tentative evidence of HAARP's involvement in the Indonesian tsunami, Fuk'shima earthquake and a portion of the steroidal hurricane season in Florida in 2004 (4 Cat 2 storms, or better). A portable military weapon version of this device is believed to have ended the lives of Paul Wellstone (Dem Senator, MN) and his family and Michael Connell, Karl Rove's IT whiz who rigged the Ohio 'miracle' by flipping some 120,000 votes for the PygmyPrez, Bush 43.

In short, we may have a few Sociopaths playing god for real this time. HAARP is the perfect weapon. After all, what could be more non-partisan than an Act of God?

For more on all this, Google: *sandy haarp*
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P.S. one possible reason for Sandy - other than *Mother* showing us all what real violence looks like - might be too lower the Dem vote count in order to allow Mitt to get more votes than Obama. Why would this matter? Because then we would never hear the end of the alleged Republicans yammering on for four years about who is the "real" president and how he was cheated out of it (by the very antediluvian Electoral College which the GOP manipulates to beat the band - they have to as the republic's demographic trends are leaving them flapping in the breeze).

NjW

Nigel Watson *freethinker* 727.493.1990 skype orbizen2
Blog: ORBizen Memo http://orbizenmemo.blogspot.com/

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tatupu70   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 3:57am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 3

Melmakian says

Saved for later

So far Iwog's record on "saved for later"s is pretty damn good. Perhaps you should try a new tact?

Nobody   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 4:26am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 4

So did Floridians finish screwing in the light bulb yet?

freesense   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 4:29am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 5

Nobody - they will just as soon as they figure out they gotta turn clockwise

Vicente   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 5:03am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

Vote rigging. In MY Republican Party? Unpossible!

iwog   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 5:10am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 7

Vicente says

Vote rigging. In MY Republican Party? Unpossible!

They are using secret Tesla device in Alaska to screw with the machines in Ohio.

freesense   befriend   ignore   Thu, 8 Nov 2012, 6:24am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 8

Vicente - after a dozen years of digging up Psychopath bads, I have learned that nothing is impossible - unlikely? improbable? nevah happen? maybe (but I like your spelling better). NjW

bdrasin   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 12:19am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 9

Republican butthurt porn:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

dodgerfanjohn   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 12:26am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

LOL@ people screaming racism....while being racist :|

zzyzzx   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 1:05am PST   Share   Quote   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 11

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 2:53am PST   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 12

bdrasin - thanks for sharing - sometimes I think the only remedy for such widely disparate competing realities is to divide the nation's people into two groups, each to make the laws under which the other half must live

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 3:09am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 13

Melmakian & iwog - either one of you have a link to what you claim? more than one would be better NjW

Mr Happygoluckofus   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 3:34am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 14

Obama marginally eked out a win, from quite possibly the worst presidential candidate in the History of politics.
Now for post modem the Democrat party is running around talking about how the Republican party needs to fix its self.
From where I stand, IF the republican party DOES manage to FIX its self by next election.
It will spell a disaster for the Democrats in 2016.

Hillary Clinton aside, who in the Democrat party do you think can get the numbers out to vote, had the candidate not been Obama. Obama still has the "Historic" factor going for him. Clinton has a ton of "Clinton" legacy baggage going for her.

How ever if someone like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Frank or Dodd, been running against Romney it would have been a whole different story.
The last ballot in Florida would have been cast by no later than 8:15, and that would have been indicative for the rest of the Nation.

Republican voters were voting against policy and agenda's they are fed up with. Those voters included a significant amount of Independent voters. Democrat voters were voting a historic campfire song. A Kumbiya moment if you will. Or were voting out of fear, that Romney was going to deport the illegals, or cut social services to the poor.

Either way, the way I see it, (as an Independent, who by the way now makes up the political majority in this country at 38%) both the Democrat and Liberal party are so out of touch with the reality of their constituents that by 2016 I suspect the Independents to be more like 45% of the registered voters.

Obama had to scrounge up more Obama supporters this time around, as a large chunk of his supporters were spurred by his mishandling of his first term. If he performs the same way, with out compromise while blaming the previous president, or the republicans, as to say, "It's my way or the I'll blame you way.". The Democrats will be on its last'est last leg(I guess he's on his third leg now) come 2016.

My hope will be that Independents will protest for more representation and end closed Primaries in all states. If that had been the case, then Ron Paul would be the President elect as I type this now.

Ron Paul's supporters were disillusioned Obama supporters, and Independent, or as the Liberal media vilified them Paulbots.
Which is also the very same reason Denis Kusinich didn't win the 2008 Primaries and we ended up with the two unlikeliest candidates, with the most unlikely, unfit and inexperienced winning the Democrat nod, then the election as a whole.

What's wrong with the Republicans? I know what's wrong with the republicans, the same thing that's always been wrong with the Republicans how can you escape that smell.
I'm less concerned about "what's wrong with the republicans" than I am what's wrong with the Democrats.

You guys are celebrating winning a twelfth round decision against a punch drunk gimp, with a bum hip, and a fractured wrist.

Hooray indeed!

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 5:28am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 15

Captain - love the name and the pic, though I'm not sure I even understand half of what you're on about and this space does not permit me to cover all the bases on the parts where I do have a clue

In reverse order then: the last thing I'd be celebrating is the election of an unindicted criminal POTUS intent on zapping Americans and others, sans due process, by ticking off a box next to their name every Tuesday AM in the Oval - there are few "Hoorays" for an empire in steep decline - Mr. Obama should be occupying a cell in a SuperMax for that deed alone - and if I were king, he'd have lots of company

Dems & Repubs are merely brands; like Marlboro or McDonalds(read Naomi Klein's No Logo) - getting all het up over our differences leaves less time for us to notice the real thieves who are busy stealing everything that isn't nailed down, eh?

the current crop of addlepated, alleged "Republicans" are, in fact, RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) - if Lincoln, Ike, Bill Buckley or any of the rest of the Old Guard were around, they'd see these Tea Party "patriots" for the tin pot Fascists they are and kick them to the curb in no time - they're misled, misguided and dangerous - they are also a prime reason for the lack of bi-partisanship in Washington (a not altogether bad thing, IMHO) - that they can't cut a deal with Obama speaks volumes as both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue are financially supported by the same money - their hatred (including naked racism) doesn't even allow them to compromise when it is in their own best interests to do so - how fucking dumb is that?

If you check the stats, this election said a loud "NO!" to the tea party-types (whose small government ranting is mirrored by Mr Paul, BTW) - but for the outrageous gerrymandering surgery performed by rigged-in (by the Rove Rig Machine) 2010 Leges in some dozen states, the voters would have thrown out many more state reps as well - as it is, in the US Senate (immune to gerrymander tactics), Dems increased their margin by two (including one Indy who will caucus with them) - Elizabeth Warren, Claire McCaskill and Tammy Baldwin are all flaming Progressives of the first rank and folks I am sure you wil grow to love as the years roll on by - is there any doubt as to the will of the people here?

if you think Ron Paul, or any other 3rd party, has a Chinaman's chance of getting anywhere near the brass ring of the party duopoly, check out the lengths to which Herr Romney went in order to make sure the playing field was tilted his way - while Dr. Paul and I only come together on civil liberties, he deserved a fair shake - Mitt's treatment of the Ron Paul delegates was exceptionally reprehensible:

http://markcrispinmiller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2008_2012_ElectionsResultsAnomaliesAndAnalysis_V1.51.pdf

http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html

ask yourself, if he did this to folks in his own party, what do you think he'd be doing to us (the 47% looking for a handout from the "real" workers) after next January 21st?

Can you spell p-s-y-c-h-o-p-a-t-h?

And I don't know about you, but Mr. O is currently "winning" ( the only real winners here are the gentle folks who actually run this country and the planet) this race by more than 3 milion real votes, and counting (with those still not tallied in Flori-duh coming from heavily Democrat sources - absentee, Palm Beach, etc) and a fairly convincing (except maybe in your Independent eyes) 332 Electoral votes - other than Al Gore, from whom the election was stolen, the last first-term win by this margin was by Mr. Obama himself in 2008 and LBJ in 1964 - I'd all it a mini-mandate - would you go along with that?

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, CS NjW

dublin hillz   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 5:31am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

CaptainShuddup says

You guys are celebrating winning a twelfth round decision against a punch drunk gimp, with a bum hip, and a fractured wrist.

ok, the image of romney as the gimp in pulp fiction is hilarious!

Mr Happygoluckofus   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 5:48am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

freesense says

would you go along with that?

So basically Obama had to lie to a new set of demographics.
In 2008 it was the young college students, that by mid term they were jobless sleeping in tents in the nations city parks protesting the bank titans Obama was rubbing bosoms with, in between being woke up by police thugs armed with pepper spray.

This time around he promised Rosa Sanchez a brighter future and a better tomorrow. I bet she will still be setting the White House china while hopping her illegal husband doesn't get popped by ICE while he's mowing lawns, come 2016.

Who will the Democrat galvanize after they run out of people to enchant.
They can't keep up this record running against the other guy with out any record.

Everything, every single bit of it, that you folks claim are the problems of the Republican party, is the exact same ailment of the Democrat party.
I should stay out of it, and just watch them both self destruct.

That will at least be an ends to a means, and finally Independent candidates can get a foot hold. I mean how much credit can one give a Photoshopped picture of white guy in a wheel chair with racial epitaphs on his T-Shirt from a party of Liars?

People will wise up by 2016, I've never been more confident.

Robber Baron Elite Scum   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 7:35am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 18

You sap peasants want a 2012 Election Wrap-up?

Here it is:

DIE ALREADY YOU FUCKING COCKROACHES!

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 9:08am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

Captain - "rubbing bosoms" - keep that in, very evocative - as for the nativist, racist crapola, well... it's always good to remember that small minds dwell on people

RBES - David's looking a tad peaked - couldn't you have dug up a more flattering shot? I mean, the man obviously has rosacea, but a little pancake does wonders to improve one's Vulture mien

as to the general tone of this thread, no one appears guilty of understatement, except, perhaps, moi NjW

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 10:11am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

iwog says

I guarantee one thing, that not a single prediction of doom and gloom broadcast by Fox Noise will come true.

I doubt MSNBC will continue with the low rating... they been getting.

Still FOX out ranks and continues with the #1 spot for several years.

Fox received 12 million viewers during Tuesdays election nite. far far more than other channels.

bdrasin   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 11:22am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 21

thomaswong.1986 says

iwog says

I guarantee one thing, that not a single prediction of doom and gloom broadcast by Fox Noise will come true.

I doubt MSNBC will continue with the low rating... they been getting.

Still FOX out ranks and continues with the #1 spot for several years.

Fox received 12 million viewers during Tuesdays election nite. far far more than other channels.

Heck, I was watching Fox; one of the most satisfying viewing experiences I can remember. Sour faces, disbelief, barely disguised disappointment and pitiful attempts to appear objective...Rove's demented meltdown was pure gold.

marcus   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 11:47am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 22

freesense says

Captain - love the name and the pic, though I'm not sure I even understand half of what you're on about

I see you're new around here.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 11:54am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

LOL.. you call that a meltdown...
Rove was crunching number acting very reasonable.
Mearly pointing out it may be too early a call, which even the
Dems seemed to agree with.. if you watch the video...

now do you want to see a REAL MELT DOWN..

here you go.. pure emotional tingle gone cancerous...

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 12:00pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

Marcus damn! wuz hoping no one would notice - thought I was going to have to get a part-time job just to keep up with CaptainShuddup, but he's been quiet for awhile now

actually, I was on here last year but couldn't get the hang of the forum thingie (Pat finally gave up on me) - kept having to sign in - a real pain - this time around seems easier somehow - not too proficient on the tech end of stuff

this is a tough crowd - will have to remember to pack my brass knuckles next post

Oddly, I do remember your avatar - why so glum, chum?

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 12:02pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

Patrick - I hope you see what you've gotten me into

Bellingham Bill   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 3:13pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 26

freesense says

why so glum, chum?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/are-you-fucking-kidding-me

freesense   befriend   ignore   Fri, 9 Nov 2012, 9:21pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 27

Bill - thanx for the enlightenment and an interesting new site NjW

HEY YOU   befriend   ignore   Sat, 10 Nov 2012, 1:05am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

freesense,
If you try to use reason here,you are wasting your time.

freesense   befriend   ignore   Sat, 10 Nov 2012, 1:47am PST