Allow anonymous comments?


By Patrick   Follow   Mon, 12 Nov 2012, 1:37pm   772 views   11 comments
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At the Patrick.net coffee on Saturday some people said that registering for any forum is a huge turn-off, so I was wondering if I should start accepting anonymous comments again, subject to some harsh spam control. But then if someone loses their password, how can I know who they really are to give them a new one?

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  1. rooemoore


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    1   1:43pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Patrick says

    But then if someone loses their password, how can I know who they really are to give them a new one?

    Do it like it is done on socketsite:

    http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2012/10/designer_remnants_redux_schwabs_2012_showcase_home_with.html

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    2   1:44pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike  

    Allowing commenters to be anonymous can lead to them being even more uncivil than usual. Not a good idea. We're already at seriously high incivility levels here.

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    3   2:03pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    robertoaribas says

    use a facebook log in, maybe that would slow down some of the idiocy on this site.... not from me though, I'm already a non anonymous idiot!

    Robert, what if I told you my actual name was Goran, and my last name started with a "K"?

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    4   2:04pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    No on anonymous comments. I agree with the above comments that it would become some sort of cyber max max parody. You would have Realtors, housing bears, amateur economist, and stormfront posters just going buck wild on Patrick.net.

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    5   2:12pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    rooemoore says

    Do it like it is done on socketsite:

    It looks like Socketsite has about the same registration process that I do, requiring an email address. What do they do differently?

    robynfrog says

    Allowing commenters to be anonymous can lead to them being even more uncivil than usual.

    True. There is even less to lose by being uncivil if you didn't even register.

    robertoaribas says

    use a facebook log in

    That would make people more civil, since they'd be using their real identity, but it would probably discourage real honesty too.

    Hmmm, maybe I should encourage just the opposite, where high-credibility Patrick.net users can use their Patrick.net login to access other sites!

    Maybe a zillion small newspapers could add the Patrick.net forum to their articles, so they could have a forum for free, but the comments would also appear on Patrick.net.

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    6   4:48pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    OK, anonymous comment idea is nixed.

    I do want to make it very easy for new users to join though, especially civil and interesting people. That was part of the idea behind "Invite an expert to fact-check this" but no one uses that for some reason. Maybe too much work to look up experts' email addresses.

    I need some marketing advice.

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    7   5:34pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    I can't imagine how much easier and hassle free registering for your site can be.(unless things have changed that I'm not aware of)
    All you ask for is a email address and a username. Every thing else seems to be optional. This site and a few others like it, are as far as I'm willing to delve into Social Network sites. Where you give every detail about your self, and what you type or post is taken out of context and used against you. Or worse yet, someone else can tag and associate you with a post or questionable content you otherwise wouldn't want on the internet.

    I thought the brightest people all concurred early on in the internet that anonymity was crucial for healthy safe online activity. A username managed by an email account. I mean any law enforcement agency could trace down any unlawful post or activity. But you don't want you're online world biting you in the ass in the offline world. Be it for safety or privacy reasons.

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    8   5:43pm Mon 12 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Thanks! Yes, all I ask is an email address and a username.

    I wouldn't even ask that, but the email address is so just damn useful for:

    * Recovering lost passwords.
    * Letting people subscribe to the newslinks, or comments.
    * Putting users in direct contact if they both agree to the "befriend" thing.
    * Telling users to chill out and stop insulting others.

    Also, spammers used to not bother to register because of the email requirement. But lately, they do register, so that bit of value isn't there anymore. It's amazing how quickly the spam techniques evolve, like some kind of irradiated slime mold.

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    9   8:17am Tue 13 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You didn't build the internet, Spam and Porn did.

    adage alert: There's a lot of truth in jest...

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    10   10:00am Tue 13 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Patrick says

    It looks like Socketsite has about the same registration process that I do, requiring an email address. What do they do differently?

    No password required, so no need to resend password. All the user has to remember is their email address. You can verify and then store the email the first time someone signs up.

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    11   10:23am Tue 13 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    But if there is no password required, what is to stop one user from logging in as another? If all they need is the email address and those might be publicly known, like my own.

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