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Rape and torture routine at immigration jail


By tovarichpeter   Follow   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 1:49am PST   947 views   10 comments
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/16/worst-detention-centers-detention-watch-network_n_2138999.html

Solitary confinement is a punishment for the most dangerous convicts, but a scathing report released Thursday said detainees held on immigration charges frequently get thrown into isolation for weeks and months at a time for minor infractions. Detention Watch Network's report said the 10 worst detention centers for immigrants should be immediately closed because adequate medical care is allegedly denied and complaints of sexual abuse get overlooked. The organization called for federal officials to immediately shut 10 facilities with the most egregious allegations of mistreatment. Besides the 10 detention facilities blasted by the watchdog network, which is a coalition of...

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TechGromit   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 3:25am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 1

Hey prisoners get raped in prison too, should we close them too! Don't want to end up in a Immigration jail? Stay the F**K out of the country if your an illegal.

Ceffer   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 3:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 2

Bleeding hearts, illegals, criminals, and sociopaths, always a fun combination.

Throw the bleeding hearts in there for a while instead of letting them Monday Morning quarterback and see how sympathetic they are after a ride in the rodeo.

Instead of simpering social theorists tilting at windmills, they will probably become death penalty advocates for misdemeanors.

Sociopaths and crooks are always great sources of reliable information according the bleeders.

leo707   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 3

TechGromit says

Hey prisoners get raped in prison too, should we close them too! Don't want to end up in a Immigration jail? Stay the F**K out of the country if your an illegal.

So, you feel that rape and torture are reasonable punishments for someone entering the country illegally?

leo707   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:15am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 4

Ceffer says

Throw the bleeding hearts in there for a while instead of letting them Monday Morning quarterback and see how sympathetic they are after a ride in the rodeo.

So, you feel that rape and torture are is reasonable response to someone with whom you have a political disagreement with?

Ceffer   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:59am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 5

"These reports of bad conditions are vague and unsubstantiated. The amount of time and resources being spent to assure that these prisoners are humanely treated is significant.The NGOs making these charges are highly political groups that, like our political parties, are prone to making stuff up. They get away with it because they know the mainstrean media will print their claims without fact checking it. Nobody is being tortured. They are well-fed, properly clothed and sheltered. They have appropriate medical care. Keep in mind that there have been almost 400,000 detainees/deportees every year for the last three years. Something bad is going to happen to a few of them. But in comparison to the volume it is very few. Care is being taken. Also keep in mind that these are not just illegal immigrants. They are illegal immigrants who have been convicted of criminal offenses. That doesn't justify inhumane treatment, it just indicates how perceptions have been manipulated by the NGOs involved. Bottom line: a lot of very good people are trying very hard to do the right thing."

From the comments. "Unsubstantiated" and "allegation" come up pretty often.

"anonymous allegations that cannot be investigated or substantiated, and many secondhand sources and anecdotes"

Also, "we" are detaining them because they are illegal, the "alleged" rape and torture is what they are doing to each other.

Out of 400,000 people, 4,000 a year will die of various causes both natural and unnatural if you assume a rather low one percent a year mortality, that's not neglect, that's biology and fate.

everything   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 8:44am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

Probably some, only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. With government jobs, all it takes is a little cronyism and nepotism, which is rampant.

I did not even realize we had detention centers but I guess, in the land of monopolistic capitalistic debt slavery, we got some kind of jailhouse for everyone.

TechGromit   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 9:04am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 7

leo707 says

So, you feel that rape and torture are reasonable punishments for someone entering the country illegally?

Well lets be fair here, it's not the prison guards or any organized government agency that's doing the raping and torturing. It's there fellow inmates. And since immigration jail is just a holding place for a couple of months until the government can determine if you have legal status to stay in this country or not, there must be quite a few illegal immigrates that rape and torture just for fun. After all if it was only the ABC gang was was doing all this crap, in a couple months the ABC gang would be deported and the immigration jail would be a happy, happy place until you get deported.

Therefore there a continuous stream of sick assholes entering the jail to make this an ongoing problem. And guess what if they are in the jail, they must be in society OUTSIDE the jails too.

leo707   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 9:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 8

TechGromit says

Well lets be fair here, it's not the prison guards or any organized government agency that's doing the raping and torturing. It's there fellow inmates.

Ummm...

So, I am not sure if your statement is a yes or no to my question. Do you think that rape and torture is an acceptable punishment for illegally immigrating to the US?

What if...
TechGromit says

...immigration jail is just a holding place for a couple of months until the government can determine if you have legal status to stay in this country or not....

Someone has been found to be "legal", and gets to stay in the US. Does that person deserve rape and torture just for being accused of being illegal?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 12:21pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 9

Rape and torture are SACRAMENTS!

Homeboy   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 3:29pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

Melmakian says

And it IS a deterrent of sorts. Not for hard core or other career criminals but for law abiding folks who otherwise might be tempted to engage in a crime. For them, the perceived probability of getting raped in prison pretty much squelches those impulses.

These are immigration detention centers. Their only "crime" is being here in this country.

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