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America's Zombie Politics


By tovarichpeter   Follow   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 1:51am PST   365 views   6 comments
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/opinion/life-death-and-deficits.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

America’s political landscape is infested with many zombie ideas — beliefs about policy that have been repeatedly refuted with evidence and analysis but refuse to die. The most prominent zombie is the insistence that low taxes on rich people are the key to prosperity. But there are others.

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dodgerfanjohn   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 2:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 1

Lol.

Propaganda at its absolute finest. Label something in a degrading manner. Cite unknown analysis and studies. State it as though its facts.

In Russia it was called Pravda. Here it's called msnbc.

upisdown   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 2

dodgerfanjohn says

Propaganda at its absolute finest. Label something in a degrading manner. Cite unknown analysis and studies. State it as though its facts.

The link is from the nytimes, not fox news.

dodgerfanjohn   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:39am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 3

And now the deflection begins of course.

Argue that is not propaganda by virtue of unrelated facts.

curious2   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:39am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 4

dodgerfanjohn says

Propaganda at its absolute finest.

DFJ, is your avatar Ted Nugent?

Anyway zombie ideas can be found on both sides. "Trickle down economics" never worked but it continues in the Bush/Obama tax shift. Americans rejected Obamacare when it was called Hillary's Plan, and before that Clintoncare; the only place it was ever accepted was Massachusetts where it was called Romneycare, but it's national now. Ideas that serve a particular constituency or lobby (e.g. the 1%, or the medical-industrial complex) have a life force separate from the merit of the idea itself, so no matter how many times the idea gets shot down, those who stand to profit from it keep raising it up again.

leo707   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:42am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 5

curious2 says

no matter how many times the idea gets shot down, those who stand to profit from it keep raising it up again.

Can't you just shoot the idea in the head?

curious2   Fri, 16 Nov 2012, 5:43am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

leo707 says

Can't you just shoot the idea in the head?

I thought Barack Obama had done that to Hillary's Plan in 2008, but like Poltergeist II, it's ba-a-ack.

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