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Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 6:16am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 1

OOOH SNAP!

Good find btw.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 6:18am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 2

Over 6 months of vacancy is a big hit to the bottomline...

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 7:02am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 3

This is why I've never found SFH rental very attractive as a business. The headaches, vacancy worries, etc simply aren't worth it unless you are the type of person who can without any hit to your moral compass walk away from the home when the investment goes bad. Unfortunately, unlike stocks where the hit is immediate and painful when things go south, the risk of losing the home is minimal with today's save housing "administration". I think the debt forgiveness act expiring will go some way in curing that though. The potential harm of having to pay 28% of a $100,000 - $200,000 short sell windfall will cause people to rethink their decisions, and unlike banks, the IRS always gets their pound of flesh. That's how they got Al Capone.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 8:23am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)     Comment 4

In a few weeks, it will be a squat for cannibal neonazis and the owners, if they're still around, or the banksters holding the dead note.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 8:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 5

This thread has so much potential. I look foward to Roberto's response.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 8:35am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 6

robertoaribas says

yup, I wish you weren't anonymous on here. I'd like to see you call me a liar to my face...

Roberto, what would happen if he did call you a liar to your face?

Say it was in a parking lot...

The Professor   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 9:12am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 7

robertoaribas says

yup1 says

HAHAHA nice clean up roberto I see that now trillo does not chow it rotting on their listing for 180+ days. Dude you are such a liar.

@patrick. delete him, or send me his ip information, so I can sue him for libel.

Roberto,

Had you ignored yup you never would have seen this thread.

W'up Yup??? We all know Roberto is a bit arrogant and boastful. He is also smart. He is probably telling the truth of what he does and what he BELIEVES. It works for him for now.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 9:16am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 8

I want to see the Roberto vs Yup real life brawl in the parking lot. Roberto looks like he keeps in shape through hiking, and biking with his hot, young girlfriend in the deserts of Phoenix.

BUT

Yup seems like a typical tough guy, rides a Harley, is a HUGE dude.

Forget libel and lawyers, this fight could be interesting.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 9:34am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

yup, do you think you could take roberto in a fight, no weapons, hand to hand based on the pictures you've seen?

David Losh   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 10:14am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

Well, that went nowhere fast.

It looks like the liar here was yup1.

Why put up something that your own data disproves?

From what I see that is a pretty nice house, and maybe worth the $145K he paid, I don't know, but I like it.

For sure some one will rent it.

The Professor   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:10pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 11

robertoaribas says

I want this jackass in court.

Ignore is cheaper.

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:24pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 12

This thread makes me giddy.

iwog   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:27pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 13

Goran_K says

This thread makes me giddy.

I'm not the least bit surprised.

mell   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:30pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 14

Goran_K says

This thread makes me giddy.

Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

Call it Crazy   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:32pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 15

mell says

Goran_K says

This thread makes me giddy.

Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

I was hoping it was going to be on Pay per View.

iwog   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:33pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

yup1 says

You would need to prove libel

Libel is any intentional misrepresentation of the facts in order to lower the perception of character.

Intention is obvious, which just leaves misrepresentation of the facts. If you are lying about the rental in a public forum, and it affects the market decision of one of Roberto's clients, you can very easily be sued for damages.

I read about successful lawsuits from false Yelp misrepresentations all the time. The plaintiff is almost always successful.

It's all fun and games until you become a real person with a traceable IP address, isn't it Yup?

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-Yelp-user-faces-lawsuit-over-review-3255175.php

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121025/NATION/210250345/Critical-online-reviews-can-carry-legal-risks

yup1   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 12:56pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

Better? I requested Patrick delete the thread. I cannot seem to do it with my account. I don't need somone attempting to sue me from a stupid online forum

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:01pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 18

Roberto, why don't you two settle it in a boxing ring. Winner has to pay the other guy $1,000 cash.

mell   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:01pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 19

robertoaribas says

mell says

Goran_K says

This thread makes me giddy.

Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

never gonna happen. I have never started a fight in my life...

Good, maybe both of you should come to one of Patrick's coffee hour sometime - I can highly recommend them :)

David9   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:15pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

LOL! Gawd why do I like this site?

Patrick   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:20pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike     Comment 21

WTF?

Why don't you guys just ignore each other?

Ah, I know, because then someone might say something about you that you don't like but you wouldn't be able to see it.

iwog   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:21pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

Patrick says

WTF?

Why don't you guys just ignore each other?

Ah, I know, because then someone might say something about you that you don't like but you wouldn't be able to see it.

Your site would get nationwide media attention if this turned into a cage match. Don't look a gift horse.......

Patrick   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:35pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

Does yup1 agree to that?

Iwog is right. The publicity could be huge.

David9   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:41pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

Patrick says

publicity

Is Key. ;-)

Goran_K   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 1:58pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 25

Man, this is getting more exciting by the second.

In this corner, a 50 year old math professor who keeps in shape by biking and hiking in the desert sun.

In this corner, a 280 pound giant who rides Harleys! He probably has tats, and wears a vest.

I can't wait to see it. I'll buy my ticket right now.

David9   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 2:06pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 26

Yeah, sometimes the site has that 'train wreck' quality about it, can't keep your eyes off it. Which can be a good thing..

mell   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 11:39pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 27

I want AF to fight Gandhi.

lostand confused   Sun, 2 Dec 2012, 11:44pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

mell says

I want AF to fight Gandhi.

Where is the fun in that. Throw in two transexuals-now we are talking.

elliemae   Mon, 3 Dec 2012, 10:41pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 29

I'm gone for a day and look what I miss! I vote that we forget about Roberto & the yupster, go for the transsexuals jousting with Realtor signs.

In a cage.

lostand confused   Mon, 3 Dec 2012, 11:14pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 30

lisalisa says

When you guys throw in Jerry Springer, you just ruin it... and come off as being in the gutter.

To you perhaps. But I have no qualms of being morally superior to anybody else. Human behavior ranges across a wide spectrum.

Goran_K   Mon, 3 Dec 2012, 11:27pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 31

Bigsby says

Why do I get the feeling he's more likely 5' 6" and a 130lbs?

That would be hilarious.

elliemae   Tue, 4 Dec 2012, 12:58am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 32

lisalisa says

When you guys throw in Jerry Springer, you just ruin it... and come off as being in the gutter.

That's what ruined it for you? Not that some dickhead was calling another a liar, stalking his posts and attacking him at every opportunity - on this thread, and on others? It wasn't offensive that he specifically started a thread personally attacking another user? That the conversation became less about being called a liar, and more about fighting?

Then there was mention of the possibility of a man, long dead, who had dedicated his life to promoting peace fighting a Patnet user, who has dedicated his Patnet life to brandishing a sword and fighting apocolyptic zombies. Possibly vampires and werewolves too; I haven't taken the time to read the fourth book in the Twilight saga, "Apocolyptic Moon is Shostakovich." But I digress - THAT didn't relegate this discussion to the gutter?

I'll tell you what did it for me:

robertoaribas says

i just road my bicycle down to it to see what shape it's in, and show it to two interested parties...

He used the wrong "road" - he meant "rode." And he left out "to" in front of the word "show."

A transsexual cage match that includes a biker and a math professor (as long as he wears the funky robes and flat hat) is fine, as long as they use proper english.

iwog says

Libel is any intentional misrepresentation of the facts in order to lower the perception of character. Intention is obvious, which just leaves misrepresentation of the facts. If you are lying about the rental in a public forum, and it affects the market decision of one of Roberto's clients, you can very easily be sued for damages.

I love it when you talk lawyer!

RentingForHalfTheCost   Wed, 5 Dec 2012, 7:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 33

Goran_K says

Man, this is getting more exciting by the second.

In this corner, a 50 year old math professor who keeps in shape by biking and hiking in the desert sun.

In this corner, a 280 pound giant who rides Harleys! He probably has tats, and wears a vest.

I can't wait to see it. I'll buy my ticket right now.

Maybe we could turn it into something like a wrestling match, where you can tag in or out. 4 Bulls vs 4 bears. Winning team gets to squat in a vacant REO for 2 years with no out of pocket. I'll buy the whole front row. ;)

Goran_K   Wed, 5 Dec 2012, 7:56am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 34

Roberto and Iwog vs The professor and bgmall4

Let's do it!

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