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  1. Goran_K


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    1   2:16pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    OOOH SNAP!

    Good find btw.

  2. Goran_K


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    2   2:18pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Over 6 months of vacancy is a big hit to the bottomline...

  3. Goran_K


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    3   3:02pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    This is why I've never found SFH rental very attractive as a business. The headaches, vacancy worries, etc simply aren't worth it unless you are the type of person who can without any hit to your moral compass walk away from the home when the investment goes bad. Unfortunately, unlike stocks where the hit is immediate and painful when things go south, the risk of losing the home is minimal with today's save housing "administration". I think the debt forgiveness act expiring will go some way in curing that though. The potential harm of having to pay 28% of a $100,000 - $200,000 short sell windfall will cause people to rethink their decisions, and unlike banks, the IRS always gets their pound of flesh. That's how they got Al Capone.

  4. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich


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    In a few weeks, it will be a squat for cannibal neonazis and the owners, if they're still around, or the banksters holding the dead note.

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    5   4:28pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    This thread has so much potential. I look foward to Roberto's response.

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    6   4:35pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    robertoaribas says

    yup, I wish you weren't anonymous on here. I'd like to see you call me a liar to my face...

    Roberto, what would happen if he did call you a liar to your face?

    Say it was in a parking lot...

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    7   5:12pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    robertoaribas says

    yup1 says

    HAHAHA nice clean up roberto I see that now trillo does not chow it rotting on their listing for 180+ days. Dude you are such a liar.

    @patrick. delete him, or send me his ip information, so I can sue him for libel.

    Roberto,

    Had you ignored yup you never would have seen this thread.

    W'up Yup??? We all know Roberto is a bit arrogant and boastful. He is also smart. He is probably telling the truth of what he does and what he BELIEVES. It works for him for now.

  8. Goran_K


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    8   5:16pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    I want to see the Roberto vs Yup real life brawl in the parking lot. Roberto looks like he keeps in shape through hiking, and biking with his hot, young girlfriend in the deserts of Phoenix.

    BUT

    Yup seems like a typical tough guy, rides a Harley, is a HUGE dude.

    Forget libel and lawyers, this fight could be interesting.

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    9   5:34pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    yup, do you think you could take roberto in a fight, no weapons, hand to hand based on the pictures you've seen?

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    10   6:14pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Well, that went nowhere fast.

    It looks like the liar here was yup1.

    Why put up something that your own data disproves?

    From what I see that is a pretty nice house, and maybe worth the $145K he paid, I don't know, but I like it.

    For sure some one will rent it.

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    11   6:43pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Yup,

    This is low. You couldn't beat a man debating him so you use this technique? I agree with the professor that Roberto is a bit arrogant, but what you did is really low. If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all. It's sad that you chose this approach. If you still have some dignity, delete this thread immediately.

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    robertoaribas says

    I want this jackass in court.

    Ignore is cheaper.

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    13   8:24pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    This thread makes me giddy.

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    Goran_K says

    This thread makes me giddy.

    I'm not the least bit surprised.

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    Goran_K says

    This thread makes me giddy.

    Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

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    16   8:32pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    mell says

    Goran_K says

    This thread makes me giddy.

    Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

    I was hoping it was going to be on Pay per View.

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    17   8:33pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    yup1 says

    You would need to prove libel

    Libel is any intentional misrepresentation of the facts in order to lower the perception of character.

    Intention is obvious, which just leaves misrepresentation of the facts. If you are lying about the rental in a public forum, and it affects the market decision of one of Roberto's clients, you can very easily be sued for damages.

    I read about successful lawsuits from false Yelp misrepresentations all the time. The plaintiff is almost always successful.

    It's all fun and games until you become a real person with a traceable IP address, isn't it Yup?

    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-Yelp-user-faces-lawsuit-over-review-3255175.php

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121025/NATION/210250345/Critical-online-reviews-can-carry-legal-risks

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    18   8:56pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Better? I requested Patrick delete the thread. I cannot seem to do it with my account. I don't need somone attempting to sue me from a stupid online forum

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    19   9:01pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Roberto, why don't you two settle it in a boxing ring. Winner has to pay the other guy $1,000 cash.

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    robertoaribas says

    mell says

    Goran_K says

    This thread makes me giddy.

    Admit it, you were just in for a good ole fistfight!

    never gonna happen. I have never started a fight in my life...

    Good, maybe both of you should come to one of Patrick's coffee hour sometime - I can highly recommend them :)

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    21   9:14pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Goran_K says

    Roberto, why don't you two settle it in a boxing ring. Winner has to pay the other guy $1,000 cash.

    Oh please, I'm almost 50. You really want to see a 50 year old math professor fight? yup1 says

    Better? I requested Patrick delete the thread. I cannot seem to do it with my account. I don't need somone attempting to sue me from a stupid online forum

    thanks. you can continue to call me names you like, I don't care about that at all, since names etc. are smiply opinion.

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    LOL! Gawd why do I like this site?

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    23   9:20pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike   Protected  

    WTF?

    Why don't you guys just ignore each other?

    Ah, I know, because then someone might say something about you that you don't like but you wouldn't be able to see it.

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    24   9:21pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Patrick says

    WTF?

    Why don't you guys just ignore each other?

    Ah, I know, because then someone might say something about you that you don't like but you wouldn't be able to see it.

    Your site would get nationwide media attention if this turned into a cage match. Don't look a gift horse.......

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    Does yup1 agree to that?

    Iwog is right. The publicity could be huge.

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    Patrick says

    publicity

    Is Key. ;-)

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    27   9:58pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Man, this is getting more exciting by the second.

    In this corner, a 50 year old math professor who keeps in shape by biking and hiking in the desert sun.

    In this corner, a 280 pound giant who rides Harleys! He probably has tats, and wears a vest.

    I can't wait to see it. I'll buy my ticket right now.

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    28   10:06pm Sun 2 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Yeah, sometimes the site has that 'train wreck' quality about it, can't keep your eyes off it. Which can be a good thing..

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    29   7:39am Mon 3 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    I want AF to fight Gandhi.

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    mell says

    I want AF to fight Gandhi.

    Where is the fun in that. Throw in two transexuals-now we are talking.

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    31   6:41am Tue 4 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I'm gone for a day and look what I miss! I vote that we forget about Roberto & the yupster, go for the transsexuals jousting with Realtor signs.

    In a cage.

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    lisalisa says

    When you guys throw in Jerry Springer, you just ruin it... and come off as being in the gutter.

    To you perhaps. But I have no qualms of being morally superior to anybody else. Human behavior ranges across a wide spectrum.

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    Bigsby says

    Why do I get the feeling he's more likely 5' 6" and a 130lbs?

    That would be hilarious.

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    lisalisa says

    When you guys throw in Jerry Springer, you just ruin it... and come off as being in the gutter.

    That's what ruined it for you? Not that some dickhead was calling another a liar, stalking his posts and attacking him at every opportunity - on this thread, and on others? It wasn't offensive that he specifically started a thread personally attacking another user? That the conversation became less about being called a liar, and more about fighting?

    Then there was mention of the possibility of a man, long dead, who had dedicated his life to promoting peace fighting a Patnet user, who has dedicated his Patnet life to brandishing a sword and fighting apocolyptic zombies. Possibly vampires and werewolves too; I haven't taken the time to read the fourth book in the Twilight saga, "Apocolyptic Moon is Shostakovich." But I digress - THAT didn't relegate this discussion to the gutter?

    I'll tell you what did it for me:

    robertoaribas says

    i just road my bicycle down to it to see what shape it's in, and show it to two interested parties...

    He used the wrong "road" - he meant "rode." And he left out "to" in front of the word "show."

    A transsexual cage match that includes a biker and a math professor (as long as he wears the funky robes and flat hat) is fine, as long as they use proper english.

    iwog says

    Libel is any intentional misrepresentation of the facts in order to lower the perception of character. Intention is obvious, which just leaves misrepresentation of the facts. If you are lying about the rental in a public forum, and it affects the market decision of one of Roberto's clients, you can very easily be sued for damages.

    I love it when you talk lawyer!

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    Goran_K says

    Man, this is getting more exciting by the second.

    In this corner, a 50 year old math professor who keeps in shape by biking and hiking in the desert sun.

    In this corner, a 280 pound giant who rides Harleys! He probably has tats, and wears a vest.

    I can't wait to see it. I'll buy my ticket right now.

    Maybe we could turn it into something like a wrestling match, where you can tag in or out. 4 Bulls vs 4 bears. Winning team gets to squat in a vacant REO for 2 years with no out of pocket. I'll buy the whole front row. ;)

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    36   3:56pm Wed 5 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Roberto and Iwog vs The professor and bgmall4

    Let's do it!

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