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WH Relents and Allows the FDA To Proceed with Genetically Modified Salmon

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White House Relents and Allows the FDA To Proceed with Genetically Modified Salmon

The Food and Drug Administration today released an electronic version of its environmental assessment for a genetically modified salmon developed by AquaBounty Technologies—effectively giving its preliminary seal of approval on the first transgenic animal to be considered for federal approval.

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1. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

   2   2:22pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   I don't know what to say... We are in a brave new world.

2. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

   3   3:52pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)   I will not eat anymore Salmon unless it's labeled! I like my GM modified foods labeled!

3. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

   4   3:52pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   121212 says I will not eat anymore Salmon Just find good salmon. You will know when you eat it. I only eat raw, cured, or poached salmon.

4. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

   5   4:07pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Peter P says I only eat raw, cured, or poached salmon. You don't want to eat trademarked Salmon? or trademarked seeds from Monsanto using roundup? Why not, a little genetic diversity is fun for all the family. Food is becoming more and more OWNED. I'm surprised Apple has not gotten in this business yet.

5. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

   6   4:11pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose.

6. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

   7   4:12pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Yeah, labeling would be good.

7. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 183 threads 1,659 comments Premium

   8   4:13pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   Peter P says Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose. Not in this country. They don't label and hence consumers are not free to choose. In Europe they do label and so consumers have a choice.

8. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

   9   4:14pm Fri 21 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (1)   Peter P says Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose. They don't want us to choose! That's the truth. They want to force feed it to us. This proves we are a slave race, always was always will be.

9. Homeboy Follow Befriend 17 threads 1,604 comments

   10   1:00pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   We have been eating genetically modified food for thousands of years. The only difference is, the modifications were done through breeding, and now can be done directly. I don't recall anyone in the past asking for labels for giant mutant turkeys with gigantic breasts, or tasteless tomatoes bred to have tough outer skins to survive truck rides.

10. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 183 threads 1,659 comments Premium

    11   1:06pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Homeboy says We have been eating genetically modified food for thousands of years. The only difference is, the modifications were done through breeding, and now can be done directly. Nah not like this. Today you can put a frog's gene into a tomato or human gene into a cow-so when you drink cow's milk , you are actually drinking very close to human breast milk. That begs the question, if you eat said cow-are you a cannibal?? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20071923-10391704.html

11. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    12   2:28pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   I believe our essence is more than our genes. Genetics do not define humanity. We define humanity individually. I know if you put a frog's gene into dinosaur DNA it can change sex. I learned that from Jurassic Park. LOL!

12. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 183 threads 1,659 comments Premium

    13   3:05pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

13. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    14   3:12pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected   lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? WTF are you talking about?

14. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 183 threads 1,659 comments Premium

    15   3:14pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   New Renter says lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? WTF are you talking about? Responding to someone who says genes do not define a human.

15. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    16   3:17pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)   Protected   121212 says Peter P says Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose. They don't want us to choose! That's the truth. They want to force feed it to us. This proves we are a slave race, always was always will be. You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on. Enjoy picking moth larvae out of your apples, tripping on ergot, and watching your kids starve when the harvest fails. You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

16. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    17   3:20pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   New Renter says You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you. I worked my own farm for a while.

17. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    18   3:23pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)   New Renter says You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means. The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered. Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5". The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process. What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago.

18. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    19   3:48pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   121212 says New Renter says You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you. I worked my own farm for a while. 121212 says New Renter says You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you. I worked my own farm for a while. True, you got me there - my track record with growing things has been terrible. Why'd you get out of farming?

19. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    20   3:54pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? Don't you touch my veal! ;-) Veal Milanese. Yum!

20. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    21   4:00pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Protected   121212 says New Renter says You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means. The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered. Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5". The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process. What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago. I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming".

21. Homeboy Follow Befriend 17 threads 1,604 comments

    22   4:13pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   New Renter says lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? WTF are you talking about? This is why I put lost and confused on ignore.

22. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    23   4:15pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Homeboy says New Renter says lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? WTF are you talking about? This is why I put lost and confused on ignore. It was obviously a joke. I only ignore people who ignore me. Seems fair.

23. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    24   4:25pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Peter P says Homeboy says New Renter says lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? WTF are you talking about? This is why I put lost and confused on ignore. It was obviously a joke. I only ignore people who ignore me. Seems fair. If so LaC has a strange sense of humor.

24. Peter P Follow Befriend (4) 117 threads 17,655 comments Premium

    25   4:28pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   New Renter says If so LaC has a strange sense of humor. Or perhaps strange IS a sense of humor? :-)

25. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 183 threads 1,659 comments Premium

    26   5:13pm Sat 22 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   Peter P says lostand confused says Peter P says Genetics do not define humanity. So you mind eating babies in the place of veal??? Don't you touch my veal! ;-) Veal Milanese. Yum! LOL!! I love me veal and every sort of meat! But I just prefer labelling in the case of Genetically modified food. I think the customer should be given the right to choose-it is our money. If Europe can achieve that, it is much easier here. But Monsanto and their ilk and their lobbying efforts prevent that. You can't put the genie back in the bottle-genetic modified food is here to stay. But there is nothing wrong with labelling. Now philosophically-yes. We are all one, start off as a single cell, then grow and consume things of the earth , excrete stuff back into the earth and finally our body is absorbed back into the earth . I am not an atheist, defnitely believe something is there, beyond science and DNA-but file that in the unkown category. Some of the older religions all call that the unkowable, the great unkown and do not try and define that which is beyond our puny human defnition. So to me science is science -which is ever evolving as our understanding of the world evolves and expands and philosphy/essence/divine is something else. Why try and mix that with science and make it dull, boring and repetitive?

26. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    27   12:10pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   New Renter says 121212 says New Renter says You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means. The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered. Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5". The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process. What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago. I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming". Organic farming = Traditional Farming We are being screwed! From Monsanto downwards.

27. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    28   12:33pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Farming for me was educational. My family have always known how, but we live in the city and suburbs and have no interest in going back to it.

28. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 434 threads 4,247 comments Baltimore, MD

    29   3:56pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   varmint says Why not just eat the other fish? Presumably the other fish taste terrible and eat something we grow like corn, soybeans, or some sort of food waste.

29. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    30   9:54pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   121212 says New Renter says 121212 says New Renter says You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means. The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered. Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5". The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process. What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago. I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming". Organic farming = Traditional Farming We are being screwed! From Monsanto downwards. I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd.

30. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    31   10:21am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   New Renter says I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd. The jury is not out, the farmers are speaking, your choosing not to listen. Ask "ANY" farmer.

31. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 14 threads 2,446 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    32   10:52am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   121212 says New Renter says I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd. The jury is not out, the farmers are speaking, your choosing not to listen. Ask "ANY" farmer. As I said earlier I HAVE spoken to farmers. They were kind enough to give a tour of their farms and discuss the benefits of traditional farming; however the health aspects of GM foods in humans is not a question a farmer is qualified to answer. This is a question to be answered by series of carefully constructed, double blind research trials with a significant control and test populations of either humans or a representative animal model. Most of the criticism of the studies done by both sides to date - as in the case of the corn study - has been on the methodology employed and the objectivity of the researchers.

32. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,269 comments

    33   10:53am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   121212 says effectively giving its preliminary seal of approval on the first transgenic animal to be considered for federal approval. Personally I think this an abomination of God, this should not be allowed to happen. The world is NOT ready for transgender salmon... [what]...[it is?]...[oh...] Ohhhhh Never mind!

33. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    34   10:56am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   Just LABEL it! Why would they hide it unless they know people will not buy it! Just like "PINK SLIME". If you eat Chicken Nuggets that is PINK SLIME. If you Label things people will not buy them.

34. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,269 comments

    35   11:42am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)   Who needs labels? Can you spot the fake? If not then farm raised salmon should be a non issue for you.

35. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    36   11:46am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   New Renter says I said earlier I HAVE spoken to farmers. They were kind enough to give a tour of their farms and discuss the benefits of traditional farming; however the health aspects of GM foods in humans is not a question a farmer is qualified to answer. right, ask Monsanto and expect an answer. Did anyone of those farmers discuss Roundup? GM Alfalfa? Pesticides? They are qualified, your not listening.

36. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    37   11:47am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   Exposed: Monsanto planted GM alfalfa before USDA approved it, federal agency knew all along http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/business/28alfalfa.html?_r=0 http://www.naturalnews.com/034264_GM_alfalfa_Roundup.html http://www.naturalnews.com/036023_Monsanto_GM_alfalfa_USDA.html

37. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    38   11:48am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/02/why-you-should-care-about-genetically-modified-alfalfa/70557/ http://farmwars.info/?p=5885

38. 121212 Follow Befriend 83 threads 687 comments male

    39   11:48am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)   “GM alfalfa will be everywhere” http://www.non-gmoreport.com/articles/february2011/gmalfalfawillbeeverywhere.php

39. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 434 threads 4,247 comments Baltimore, MD

    40   11:51am Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)   Homeboy says I don't recall anyone in the past asking for labels for giant mutant turkeys with gigantic breasts, or tasteless tomatoes bred to have tough outer skins to survive truck rides. Or about "red delicious" apples that taste terrible.

40. Homeboy Follow Befriend 17 threads 1,604 comments

    41   12:00pm Thu 27 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   121212 says right, ask Monsanto and expect an answer. Did anyone of those farmers discuss Roundup? GM Alfalfa? Pesticides? They are qualified, your not listening. Completely different issue. GM does not add chemicals to the food. The reason we don't need labels every time reactionaries get hysterical for no reason, is that it confuses people. Consumers aren't going to know what's bad for them unless it is scientifically determined what IS bad for them. Just because some people find "new" things to be "scary" is not a reason to start banning or labeling things. Where's the science? When a farmer grafts 2 trees together, he is changing the genetics of that product. We've been doing that probably for thousands of years. Do you believe that requires a special label?

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