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WH Relents and Allows the FDA To Proceed with Genetically Modified Salmon


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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/21/genetically_modified_salmon_white_house_had_blocked_fda_but_now_approval.html

White House Relents and Allows the FDA To Proceed with Genetically Modified Salmon

The Food and Drug Administration today released an electronic version of its environmental assessment for a genetically modified salmon developed by AquaBounty Technologies—effectively giving its preliminary seal of approval on the first transgenic animal to be considered for federal approval.

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varmint   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 6:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 1

Not a fan of this.

I have no issues with genetic modification, but I don't trust how accurately they can assess the impact of these salmon if they get out into the ocean. Plus salmon farming itself is dumb. Salmon are carnivorous so they have to be fed other fish to grow. Hello? Why not just eat the other fish?

Also, farmed salmon tastes terrible.

Peter P   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 6:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 2

I don't know what to say...

We are in a brave new world.

121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 7:52am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)     Comment 3

I will not eat anymore Salmon unless it's labeled!

I like my GM modified foods labeled!

Peter P   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 7:52am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 4

121212 says

I will not eat anymore Salmon

Just find good salmon. You will know when you eat it.

I only eat raw, cured, or poached salmon.

121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 8:07am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 5

Peter P says

I only eat raw, cured, or poached salmon.

You don't want to eat trademarked Salmon?

or trademarked seeds from Monsanto using roundup?

Why not, a little genetic diversity is fun for all the family.

Food is becoming more and more OWNED. I'm surprised Apple has not gotten in this business yet.

Peter P   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 8:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose.

Peter P   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 8:12am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 7

Yeah, labeling would be good.

lostand confused   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 8:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 8

Peter P says

Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose.

Not in this country. They don't label and hence consumers are not free to choose. In Europe they do label and so consumers have a choice.

121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 8:14am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

Peter P says

Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose.

They don't want us to choose! That's the truth.

They want to force feed it to us.

This proves we are a slave race, always was always will be.

Homeboy   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 5:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 10

We have been eating genetically modified food for thousands of years. The only difference is, the modifications were done through breeding, and now can be done directly.

I don't recall anyone in the past asking for labels for giant mutant turkeys with gigantic breasts, or tasteless tomatoes bred to have tough outer skins to survive truck rides.

lostand confused   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 5:06am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 11

Homeboy says

We have been eating genetically modified food for thousands of years. The only difference is, the modifications were done through breeding, and now can be done directly.

Nah not like this. Today you can put a frog's gene into a tomato or human gene into a cow-so when you drink cow's milk , you are actually drinking very close to human breast milk. That begs the question, if you eat said cow-are you a cannibal??

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20071923-10391704.html

Peter P   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 6:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 12

I believe our essence is more than our genes.

Genetics do not define humanity. We define humanity individually.

I know if you put a frog's gene into dinosaur DNA it can change sex. I learned that from Jurassic Park. LOL!

lostand confused   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:05am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 13

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

New Renter   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:12am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 14

lostand confused says

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

WTF are you talking about?

lostand confused   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:14am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 15

New Renter says

lostand confused says



Peter P says



Genetics do not define humanity.


So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???


WTF are you talking about?

Responding to someone who says genes do not define a human.

New Renter   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 16

121212 says

Peter P says

Well, choice is a good thing. I am not against genetically modified food. But consumers are free to choose.

They don't want us to choose! That's the truth.

They want to force feed it to us.

This proves we are a slave race, always was always will be.

You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on. Enjoy picking moth larvae out of your apples, tripping on ergot, and watching your kids starve when the harvest fails.

You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

121212   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:20am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 17

New Renter says

You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on

lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you.

I worked my own farm for a while.

121212   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:23am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)     Comment 18

New Renter says

You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered.

Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5".

The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process.

What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago.

New Renter   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:48am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

121212 says

New Renter says

You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on

lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you.

I worked my own farm for a while.

121212 says

New Renter says

You can always grow your own food. Discover just how hard it IS to grow enough food to survive on

lmfao,it's not that hard...... maybe for you.

I worked my own farm for a while.

True, you got me there - my track record with growing things has been terrible. Why'd you get out of farming?

Peter P   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 7:54am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

lostand confused says

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

Don't you touch my veal! ;-)

Veal Milanese. Yum!

New Renter   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 8:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 21

121212 says

New Renter says

You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered.

Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5".

The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process.

What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago.

I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming".

Homeboy   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 8:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

New Renter says

lostand confused says

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

WTF are you talking about?

This is why I put lost and confused on ignore.

Peter P   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 8:15am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

Homeboy says

New Renter says

lostand confused says

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

WTF are you talking about?

This is why I put lost and confused on ignore.

It was obviously a joke.

I only ignore people who ignore me. Seems fair.

New Renter   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 8:25am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

Peter P says

Homeboy says

New Renter says

lostand confused says

Peter P says

Genetics do not define humanity.

So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???

WTF are you talking about?

This is why I put lost and confused on ignore.

It was obviously a joke.

I only ignore people who ignore me. Seems fair.

If so LaC has a strange sense of humor.

Peter P   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 8:28am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

New Renter says

If so LaC has a strange sense of humor.

Or perhaps strange IS a sense of humor? :-)

lostand confused   Sat, 22 Dec 2012, 9:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 26

Peter P says

lostand confused says



Peter P says



Genetics do not define humanity.


So you mind eating babies in the place of veal???


Don't you touch my veal! ;-)


Veal Milanese. Yum!

LOL!! I love me veal and every sort of meat! But I just prefer labelling in the case of Genetically modified food. I think the customer should be given the right to choose-it is our money. If Europe can achieve that, it is much easier here. But Monsanto and their ilk and their lobbying efforts prevent that. You can't put the genie back in the bottle-genetic modified food is here to stay. But there is nothing wrong with labelling.

Now philosophically-yes. We are all one, start off as a single cell, then grow and consume things of the earth , excrete stuff back into the earth and finally our body is absorbed back into the earth . I am not an atheist, defnitely believe something is there, beyond science and DNA-but file that in the unkown category. Some of the older religions all call that the unkowable, the great unkown and do not try and define that which is beyond our puny human defnition. So to me science is science -which is ever evolving as our understanding of the world evolves and expands and philosphy/essence/divine is something else. Why try and mix that with science and make it dull, boring and repetitive?

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:10am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 27

New Renter says

121212 says

New Renter says

You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered.

Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5".

The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process.

What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago.

I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming".

Organic farming = Traditional Farming

We are being screwed! From Monsanto downwards.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:33am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 28

Farming for me was educational.

My family have always known how, but we live in the city and suburbs and have no interest in going back to it.

zzyzzx   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 7:56am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 29

varmint says

Why not just eat the other fish?

Presumably the other fish taste terrible and eat something we grow like corn, soybeans, or some sort of food waste.

New Renter   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 1:54pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 30

121212 says

New Renter says

121212 says

New Renter says

You are also free to spend more on organic food, whatever THAT means.

The reason you don't understand the food cycle anymore is because it has been altered.

Once there were 1000's of slaughter houses, now we have "5".

The problems go much deeper and wider, corporations have consolidated the market and changed the process.

What was Organic today was usual practices 40+ years ago.

I understand that the term "organic" has too many definitions. Over this past summer I spoke with a couple of farmers. They pointed out as you have that what people today call "organic farming" would better be defined as "traditional farming".

Organic farming = Traditional Farming

We are being screwed! From Monsanto downwards.

I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd.

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 2:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 31

New Renter says

I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd.

The jury is not out, the farmers are speaking, your choosing not to listen.

Ask "ANY" farmer.

New Renter   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 2:52am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 32

121212 says

New Renter says

I dunno, as far as I know the jury is still out on the health implications of GM foods. That study put out in September -since discredited - regarding GM 603 corn sure didn't help the arguments of the anti-GMO crowd.

The jury is not out, the farmers are speaking, your choosing not to listen.

Ask "ANY" farmer.

As I said earlier I HAVE spoken to farmers. They were kind enough to give a tour of their farms and discuss the benefits of traditional farming; however the health aspects of GM foods in humans is not a question a farmer is qualified to answer.

This is a question to be answered by series of carefully constructed, double blind research trials with a significant control and test populations of either humans or a representative animal model. Most of the criticism of the studies done by both sides to date - as in the case of the corn study - has been on the methodology employed and the objectivity of the researchers.

CaptainShuddup   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 2:53am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 33

121212 says

effectively giving its preliminary seal of approval on the first transgenic animal to be considered for federal approval.

Personally I think this an abomination of God, this should not be allowed to happen. The world is NOT ready for transgender salmon...

[what]...[it is?]...[oh...]

Ohhhhh Never mind!

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 2:56am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 34

Just LABEL it! Why would they hide it unless they know people will not buy it!

Just like "PINK SLIME".

If you eat Chicken Nuggets that is PINK SLIME. If you Label things people will not buy them.

CaptainShuddup   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:42am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 35

Who needs labels?
Can you spot the fake? If not then farm raised salmon should be a non issue for you.

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:46am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 36

New Renter says

I said earlier I HAVE spoken to farmers. They were kind enough to give a tour of their farms and discuss the benefits of traditional farming; however the health aspects of GM foods in humans is not a question a farmer is qualified to answer.

right, ask Monsanto and expect an answer. Did anyone of those farmers discuss Roundup? GM Alfalfa?

Pesticides?

They are qualified, your not listening.

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:47am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 37

Exposed: Monsanto planted GM alfalfa before USDA approved it, federal agency knew all along

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/business/28alfalfa.html?_r=0
http://www.naturalnews.com/034264_GM_alfalfa_Roundup.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/036023_Monsanto_GM_alfalfa_USDA.html

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:48am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 38

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/02/why-you-should-care-about-genetically-modified-alfalfa/70557/
http://farmwars.info/?p=5885

121212   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:48am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 39

“GM alfalfa will be everywhere”

http://www.non-gmoreport.com/articles/february2011/gmalfalfawillbeeverywhere.php

zzyzzx   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 3:51am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)     Comment 40

Homeboy says

I don't recall anyone in the past asking for labels for giant mutant turkeys with gigantic breasts, or tasteless tomatoes bred to have tough outer skins to survive truck rides.

Or about "red delicious" apples that taste terrible.

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