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Tell your members of Congress you Demand "A" plan to end gun violence.


By 121212   Follow   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 5:13am PST   3,508 views   30 comments
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http://www.demandaplan.org/

It’s time. Join more than 750 mayors and 750,000 grassroots supporters to demand that President Obama and Congress step forward with a plan to end gun violence.

Our efforts cannot bring back the 20 innocent children murdered in Newtown, CT -- or the 34 people murdered with guns every day in America. But we can prevent future tragedies by passing common sense legislation that will:

Require a criminal background check for every gun sold in America
Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
Make gun trafficking a federal crime, including real penalties for “straw purchasers”

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121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 7:27am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)     Comment 1

Sign this and ask your government to make change!

121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 7:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)     Comment 2

FortWayne says

You are asking for help from people with a really bad track record.

Do you see the NRA leading?

How is the track record of the No.1 gun lobby? They are useless to incompetent on this subject.

Your solution is to do what, nothing?

Nope.

Please sign this petition and help make change we can live with.

121212   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 7:39am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (4)     Comment 3

FortWayne says

that can only be done with conversation, not policy.

LMFAO. BULLSHIT!

Sign this.
http://www.demandaplan.org/

Raw   Fri, 21 Dec 2012, 9:16am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (6)     Comment 4

Every politician that supports guns must be thrown out of office. They have sold us out.

tatupu70   Tue, 25 Dec 2012, 1:31am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 5

thomaswong.1986 says

sadly everytime the local police go after killers, thugs and gang members whose only existence is crime and violence.. its the same lefty groups who wants to let them run amok on the streets.

lol--please show me one lefty group that wants to let criminals run amok on the streets.

thomaswong.1986 says

Year to date... there were over 400 killings of children in Chicago... but you certainly dont hear about it in the lefty media.

Do you ever read the Chicago Tribune?? It's on their front page pretty much every day. In order to hear about it, you have to actually read a newspaper or watch a news program.

121212   Tue, 25 Dec 2012, 3:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)     Comment 6

It’s time. Join more than 800 mayors and 800,000 grassroots supporters to demand that President Obama and Congress step forward with a plan to end gun violence.

Please sign the petition

Merry Xmas

http://www.demandaplan.org/

dodgerfanjohn   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 6:02am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 7

It wont end gun violence.

Criminals do not get guns through legal means.

Penalties for illegal gun possession are not nearly enough, and are enforced even less.

For instance in California a felon with a gun can get 18 mo, 2 years, or 3 years. Often since those sentence guidelines are so low, the DA will prosecute only the probation violations which have a much easier standard to meet but only carry a year sentence.

The very obvious solution is to send the criminal to prison for a very long time...lets say 15 years. Then there is no issue since there is no longer a criminal available to obtain a gun. We even have a real life example thats been copied elsewhere(LOL at the backlash citing "racism"...seriously WTF?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile

dodgerfanjohn   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 6:06am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 8

tatupu70 says

thomaswong.1986 says

sadly everytime the local police go after killers, thugs and gang members whose only existence is crime and violence.. its the same lefty groups who wants to let them run amok on the streets.

lol--please show me one lefty group that wants to let criminals run amok on the streets.

These guys for starters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_Against_Mandatory_Minimums

Thedaytoday   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 7:07am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (3)     Comment 9

Signed :)

http://www.demandaplan.org/

StillLooking   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 11:51pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

zzyzzx says

You are much more likely to blow your own fool head off with your gun than protect your neighbor. This is proven by several scientific studies.

Patrick   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 4:50am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 11

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121212   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 4:53am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 12

or stop spewing shit from every orifice!

it's cheaper.

Like the classic accidental death compared to MASS MDK's!!!!

Disgusting

SoftShell   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 9:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 13

The radical liberal laws in effect up there taught them there were no consequences to their actions.
What else did you expect??

John Bailo says

Well, because of their age, they served almost no time.

FortWayne   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 12:15pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 14

How about a plan to end all crime...

If life was only that simple, and all it took was an act of congress to solve it all... liberal naive never really goes away...

thomaswong.1986   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 12:35pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 15

I call it Plan "B"...

Kingshat   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 12:57pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 16

121212,

Can't handle a little rabble rusing? If everyone went around crying to the government for help with EVERY problem what do you think we will end up with?

SoftShell   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 10:25pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 17

pass new law to outlaw metal bullets, only manufacture rubber bullets.....
ban import of ammo..
eventually lethal metal ammo will run out
rubber bullets will be enough to deter intruders till police arrive.
gun freaks can still shoot till their hearts content..
case closed.
ps. if you want to go deer hunting, taser 'em....

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 10:56pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 18

SoftShell says

ps. if you want to go deer hunting, taser 'em....

Or go at them with a big knife. Now that would be hunting. Or a live chain saw. That would be exciting, chasing down a big buck with fighting it to the death with a spinning saw, chunks of 'em flying everywhere.

SoftShell   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 11:31pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 19

you'd have to use a battery powered chainsaw...and put a limit on the number of spare batteries one could carry..
say, a 30 round clip of batteries...

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

SoftShell says

ps. if you want to go deer hunting, taser 'em....

Or go at them with a big knife. Now that would be hunting. Or a live chain saw. That would be exciting, chasing down a big buck with fighting it to the death with a spinning saw, chunks of 'em flying everywhere.

SoftShell   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 11:33pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (4)     Comment 20

that is the crux of the matter.
all hunters that cling to their guns are nothing but big pussies...
outlaw hunting with guns....

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Or go at them with a big knife. Now that would be hunting.

BoomAndBustCycle   Fri, 28 Dec 2012, 11:55pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 21

dodgerfanjohn says

It wont end gun violence.

Criminals do not get guns through legal means.

Penalties for illegal gun possession are not nearly enough, and are enforced even less.

For instance in California a felon with a gun can get 18 mo, 2 years, or 3 years. Often since those sentence guidelines are so low, the DA will prosecute only the probation violations which have a much easier standard to meet but only carry a year sentence.

The very obvious solution is to send the criminal to prison for a very long time...lets say 15 years. Then there is no issue since there is no longer a criminal available to obtain a gun. We even have a real life example thats been copied elsewhere(LOL at the backlash citing "racism"...seriously WTF?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile

The problem with sending say a 20 year old to prison for 15 years for holding an illegal weapon is they come out of prison at 35 very angry and more mentally scarred then they went in! I bet if i put you in prison for 15 years... You could be released and end up snapping and killing someone.

Prison probably creates more criminals than it rehabilitates.

Our prison system needs reform... Otherwise its just a kicking the can way of punishing people.

zzyzzx   Sat, 29 Dec 2012, 12:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 22

SoftShell says

rubber bullets will be enough to deter intruders till police arrive.

I doubt this, unless you had something along the lines of a heavy machine gun firing an unlimited number of rubber bullets. I'd use a crossbow and a taser before rubber bullets.

woppa   Sat, 29 Dec 2012, 12:01am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 23

Try deterring a guy high on PCP with rubber bullets and let me know how it goes after he eats your face off, k?

SoftShell   Sat, 29 Dec 2012, 9:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 24

rubber bullet damage....

zzyzzx says

SoftShell says

rubber bullets will be enough to deter intruders till police arrive.

I doubt this, unless you had something along the lines of a heavy machine gun firing an unlimited number of rubber bullets. I'd use a crossbow and a taser before rubber bullets.

SoftShell   Sat, 29 Dec 2012, 9:37am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 25

rubber bullet damage...
woppa says

Try deterring a guy high on PCP with rubber bullets and let me know how it goes after he eats your face off, k?

SoftShell   Sat, 29 Dec 2012, 9:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 26

more rubber bullet damage...

Call it Crazy   Sun, 30 Dec 2012, 12:59pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (4)     Comment 27

Demand A Plan - Demand Celebrities Go Fuck Themselves

dodgerfanjohn   Sun, 30 Dec 2012, 2:30pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 28

BoomAndBustCycle says

The problem with sending say a 20 year old to prison for 15 years for holding an illegal weapon is they come out of prison at 35 very angry and more mentally scarred then they went in! I bet if i put you in prison for 15 years... You could be released and end up snapping and killing someone.

Prison probably creates more criminals than it rehabilitates.

Our prison system needs reform... Otherwise its just a kicking the can way of punishing people.

Felon at 18, illegal gun arrest at 20.

IMO lock the dude up, keep violent criminal off the street for X number of years.

Thats X number of years where he can't commit crime.

Or you can leave him on the street and ban guns. Yeah, he won't get a illegal gun. Right? Oh wait, he already has an illegal gun.

How do people every become so naive?

CaptainShuddup   Sun, 30 Dec 2012, 10:49pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (3)     Comment 29

Thanks to 121212 and his ilk, Assault riffles are selling like gun powder hot cakes.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/31/news/companies/assault-rifles-gun-sales/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Call it Crazy   Mon, 31 Dec 2012, 12:19am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (4)     Comment 30

CaptainShuddup says

Thanks to 121212 and his ilk, Assault riffles are selling like gun powder hot cakes.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/31/news/companies/assault-rifles-gun-sales/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

How about some "out of the box" thinking??? The politicians have been broadcasting for weeks that they plan on coming after the guns. If they truly wanted to do this, wouldn't they pass some behind the scenes legislation quietly to advance their agenda?

Instead, they have been very "vocal", which has resulted in massive purchasing of firearms and ammo?

If they are so "concerned" about firearms in the hands of the citizens, they certainly have added a whole lot more in the last few weeks with all their statements.

Why?? Is this actually what they wanted to happen?

Are they trying to deplete all existing inventory?

Are they trying to increase sales and tax revenues?

Are they trying to make it easier to grab the guns in the future from the peasants?

Are they just totally incompetent and engage mouth before engaging brain and didn't realize it would lead to this volume of recent purchases?

Since the politicians can't seem to do the right thing with our laws and economy, do they want the armed citizens to "force" them to do the right thing?

What else could it be??

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