New Jersey Town Plans to Place Armed Guards in Schools


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Well look.. a town in a heavy "blue" state plans on putting armed security in schools.
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The mayor of Marlboro Township in New Jersey said Friday there would be armed security guards at the district's nine schools starting in January

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/marlboro-new-jersey-armed-guards-schools-newtown-nra-reaction-184514471.html

On the same day the National Rifle Association spoke publicly for the first time since last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, one local school district announced plans to place armed police officers in every school.

The mayor of Marlboro Township in New Jersey said Friday there would be armed security guards at the district's nine schools starting in January.

"This is not such a major change-- we're not putting in SWAT teams," said Mayor Jon Hornik.

"Just like what happened on 9/11-- air travel changed," he said. "In my opinion last Friday, school security changed, and you can sit by and hope that it doesn't happen at your school or you can take action."

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  1. Call it Crazy


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    1   10:35am Mon 24 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'
    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/camden_flow/184549825.html

    ...."But Camden’s school district executive director of safety and security Gaylen Conley, who used to work in the Philadelphia School District, said Friday that schools and malls are the “lowest protected” places and the most targeted for mass shootings."

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    2   12:36pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Call it Crazy says

    Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'

    A thermonuclear explosion directly in the center would be a "significant help" for Camden.

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    3   12:40pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    Rep. Ron Paul: NRA plan to put armed guards in schools is not the solution

    http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/12/24/rep-ron-paul-nra-plan-to-put-armed-guards-in-schools-is-not-the-solution/

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    4   12:47pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    121212 says

    Rep. Ron Paul: NRA plan to put armed guards in schools is not the solution

    Well seeing hows you've posted this twice. But I BET, you didn't even take one second to read what he thinks is the answer.

    In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

    “Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented,” he wrote. “But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

    “Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

    LOL gotta love Liberal sites, Ron Paul basically called Liberals morons, while admitting that the NRA's idea is crazy. Ron Paul believes there's nothing we can or should do. Because the real answer, nobody wants to hear. We need decency laws, and the return of the moral police. Out side of that, all we can do, is watch the Rome implode with out making it worse.

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    5   12:53pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) spoke out on Monday against trying to solve gun violence with government legislation — even legislation like the National Rifle Association’s plan to place armed guards in every school in the country.

    In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

    “Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented,” he wrote. “But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

    Paul criticized the Left for rushing to call for harsher gun control. He then took a swing at conservatives — and the NRA — for falling into the same trap of asking for more legislation in the form of school guards.

    “While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings, I don’t agree that conservatives and libertarians should view government legislation, especially at the federal level, as the solution to violence,” Paul wrote.

    The Congressman stressed that government policies cannot solve the problems of American society and only succeed in limiting the freedoms of Americans in the name of ‘safety.’

    “Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

    Paul is not alone in his denouncement of the NRA plan. Liberals and conservatives alike have criticized the organization’s strategy, especially in light of the looming fiscal cliff. The NRA plan is estimated to cost the federal government billions of dollars.

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also said he didn’t support the plan.

    “I am not someone who believes that having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment,” Gov. Chris Christie said last week. “You don’t want to make this an armed camp for kids.”

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    6   1:01pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    CaptainShuddup says

    LOL gotta love Liberal sites, Ron Paul basically called Liberals morons, while admitting that the NRA's idea is crazy. Ron Paul believes there's nothing we can or should do.

    lmfao , yeah right. Watch.

    It's what I thought. You and your kind want no change, nothing.

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    7   1:07pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    121212 says

    In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

    You mean impulsive, emotional, knee-jerk, immediate legislation won't work. .

    121212 says

    “But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

    Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

    121212 says

    “While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings,

    Why would he agree with FBI facts and data??

    121212 says

    He then took a swing at conservatives — and the NRA — for falling into the same trap of asking for more legislation in the form of school guards.

    Yep, trying to appeal to the "emotions" and not logic.

    121212 says

    “Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

    Why is that, because you can't legislate mentally deranged people??

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    8   1:08pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    And your kind wants to limit the freedoms of Americans and still change NOTHING. MORON. Ron Paul is possibly the only person in all of our government with his head on straight.

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    9   1:08pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    woppa says

    Ron Paul is possibly the only person in all of our government with his head on straight.

    OMFG LMFAO!!!

    You made my day.

    LOL.

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    10   1:09pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)  

    Call it Crazy says

    Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

    Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

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    11   1:11pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    121212 says

    Call it Crazy says

    Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

    Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

    Apparently, not criminals and past convicted felons....

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    12   1:11pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    It just goes to show how deep your misunderstanding of anything and everything relevant in our capitalist polyarchy society. You are severely misinformed of the truth. I pity you.

    It is remarkable that Ron Paul gets elected when he flies in the face of everything that is our shithole society.

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    13   1:11pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Call it Crazy says

    121212 says

    “Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

    Why is that, because you can't legislate mentally deranged people??

    We could start with you? because your answers are always, do nothing! That's nuts.

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    14   1:12pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    woppa says

    It is remarkable that Ron Paul gets elected when he flies in the face of everything that is our shithole society.

    "YOUR SHITHOLE SOCIETY PERHAPS" ,not mine.

    You see we know it can be better, better without obstructionist Tea Party lunatics in the House.

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    15   1:14pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    woppa says

    ou are severely misinformed of the truth. I pity you.

    I pity you too. To bury your head and say "nothing can be done about the current paradigm", shows an unwillingness to change and grow.

    That's not this country.

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    16   1:14pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Your happy with the stays quo? Obviously we are dealing with someone who isn't playing with a full deck. I am not a tea party douchebag either. Far from it.

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    17   1:17pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    You cannot read !

    Read it again.

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    18   1:17pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    Lmao you are clueless. I want more change then you could imagine. What isn't going to change is the fact that there are humans who are pieces of shit who are going to do insane things to their fellow man. This isn't the first time a firefighter was killed by a gun when responding to a fire/emergency. It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

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    woppa says

    I am not a tea party douchebag either. Far from it.

    Really! How would I know. You sound just like one.

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    woppa says

    It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

    Eh! Are you being facetious?

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    21   1:19pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also said he didn’t support the plan.

    “I am not someone who believes that having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment,” Gov. Chris Christie said last week. “You don’t want to make this an armed camp for kids.”

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    22   1:21pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    bob2356 says

    Call it Crazy says

    Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'

    A thermonuclear explosion directly in the center would be a "significant help" for Camden.

    Sadly, you're right.... even the cops don't want to enter the city anymore..

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    23   1:22pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)  

    America needs lunchbox-friendly Gatling guns.

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    woppa says

    I want more change then you could imagine. What isn't going to change is the fact that there are humans who are pieces of shit who are going to do insane things to their fellow man.

    What do you suggest?

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    121212 says

    woppa says

    It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

    Eh! Are you being facetious?

    It's a shame that your fear has not only allowed you to accept totalitarianism from our government, but you demand it! And they want nothing more than to oblige your foolishness. Do you think I'm being facetious?

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    26   1:43pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    woppa says

    accept totalitarianism from our government,

    Nope.

    I want safety over security. Love over hate.

    Are you not capable of answering a question. What radical solutions do you propose? None is not an answer.

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    27   1:56pm Wed 26 Dec 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Your question is ridiculous. Your asking how to stop flawed human beings from being flawed human beings. Like I said...not playing with a full deck of cards. Control me government, please.

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    woppa says

    Your question is ridiculous. Your asking how to stop flawed human beings from being flawed human beings.

    No, you know very well I am talking about Gun Control. You continue to evade the question and offer no serious dialogue.

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    woppa says

    Control me government, please.

    Infact if your listening we are saying "NO". No to armed guards at malls, cinemas, kindergarten, elementary schools. No to armed government intrusion. No to all .

    So are you ready to talk gun control? Or a you still deflecting.

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    Armed guards? Given that an assailant could burst through any school door at any moment rockin' and rollin' on full auto, you need a responder that brings the ultrabadness to the party.

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    Call it Crazy says

    121212 says

    Call it Crazy says

    Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

    Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

    Apparently, not criminals and past convicted felons....

    Again you being foolish. Your premise of not having laws thus we have no criminals is a joke.

    Without the rule of law you have no civilization.

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    121212 says

    OMFG LMFAO!!!

    You made my day.

    LOL.

    I should hope SO, you're the A-Hole spamming his decree out of context in every thread on this forum.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    should hope SO, you're the A-Hole spamming his decree out of context in every thread on this forum.

    Nope, I'm not out of context and who asked you!

    Your trolling is out of context.

    Your comment has nothing to do with gun control.
    I expect you to continue trolling this thread.

    However you are useless miserable old Troll.

    It's what most on this forum have come to expect from such a guttersnipe.

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    TROLL, and you're the guy playing hide the weenie from thread to thread.

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    CaptainShuddup TROLL

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    121212 says

    CaptainShuddup TROLL

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    zzyzzx TROLL!

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    It's a temporary patch, but i think it's a right step.

    Until our nation changes into one that takes care of mentally ill and finds a way to improve it's moral values that is the best we can do.

    More needs to be done, but who knows what politicians will actually will do. Left is talking about a gun ban, which would be stupid and a step in a wrong direction.

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