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New Jersey Town Plans to Place Armed Guards in Schools


By Call it Crazy   Follow   Sun, 23 Dec 2012, 10:27am PST   2,768 views   45 comments
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Well look.. a town in a heavy "blue" state plans on putting armed security in schools.
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The mayor of Marlboro Township in New Jersey said Friday there would be armed security guards at the district's nine schools starting in January

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/marlboro-new-jersey-armed-guards-schools-newtown-nra-reaction-184514471.html

On the same day the National Rifle Association spoke publicly for the first time since last week's elementary school massacre in Connecticut, one local school district announced plans to place armed police officers in every school.

The mayor of Marlboro Township in New Jersey said Friday there would be armed security guards at the district's nine schools starting in January.

"This is not such a major change-- we're not putting in SWAT teams," said Mayor Jon Hornik.

"Just like what happened on 9/11-- air travel changed," he said. "In my opinion last Friday, school security changed, and you can sit by and hope that it doesn't happen at your school or you can take action."

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Call it Crazy   Mon, 24 Dec 2012, 2:35am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 1

Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/camden_flow/184549825.html

...."But Camden’s school district executive director of safety and security Gaylen Conley, who used to work in the Philadelphia School District, said Friday that schools and malls are the “lowest protected” places and the most targeted for mass shootings."

bob2356   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:36am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 2

Call it Crazy says

Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'

A thermonuclear explosion directly in the center would be a "significant help" for Camden.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 3

Rep. Ron Paul: NRA plan to put armed guards in schools is not the solution

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/12/24/rep-ron-paul-nra-plan-to-put-armed-guards-in-schools-is-not-the-solution/

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:47am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (3)     Comment 4

121212 says

Rep. Ron Paul: NRA plan to put armed guards in schools is not the solution

Well seeing hows you've posted this twice. But I BET, you didn't even take one second to read what he thinks is the answer.

In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

“Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented,” he wrote. “But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

“Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

LOL gotta love Liberal sites, Ron Paul basically called Liberals morons, while admitting that the NRA's idea is crazy. Ron Paul believes there's nothing we can or should do. Because the real answer, nobody wants to hear. We need decency laws, and the return of the moral police. Out side of that, all we can do, is watch the Rome implode with out making it worse.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 4:53am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 5

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) spoke out on Monday against trying to solve gun violence with government legislation — even legislation like the National Rifle Association’s plan to place armed guards in every school in the country.

In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

“Many Americans believe that if we simply pass the right laws, future horrors like the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting can be prevented,” he wrote. “But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

Paul criticized the Left for rushing to call for harsher gun control. He then took a swing at conservatives — and the NRA — for falling into the same trap of asking for more legislation in the form of school guards.

“While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings, I don’t agree that conservatives and libertarians should view government legislation, especially at the federal level, as the solution to violence,” Paul wrote.

The Congressman stressed that government policies cannot solve the problems of American society and only succeed in limiting the freedoms of Americans in the name of ‘safety.’

“Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

Paul is not alone in his denouncement of the NRA plan. Liberals and conservatives alike have criticized the organization’s strategy, especially in light of the looming fiscal cliff. The NRA plan is estimated to cost the federal government billions of dollars.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also said he didn’t support the plan.

“I am not someone who believes that having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment,” Gov. Chris Christie said last week. “You don’t want to make this an armed camp for kids.”

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:01am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 6

CaptainShuddup says

LOL gotta love Liberal sites, Ron Paul basically called Liberals morons, while admitting that the NRA's idea is crazy. Ron Paul believes there's nothing we can or should do.

lmfao , yeah right. Watch.

It's what I thought. You and your kind want no change, nothing.

Call it Crazy   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:07am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 7

121212 says

In a letter posted on his website, Paul admonished both sides of the aisle for being too quick to ask for legislation to prevent gun violence in schools.

You mean impulsive, emotional, knee-jerk, immediate legislation won't work. .

121212 says

“But this impulse ignores the self evident truth that criminals don’t obey laws.”

Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

121212 says

“While I certainly agree that more guns equals less crime and that private gun ownership prevents many shootings,

Why would he agree with FBI facts and data??

121212 says

He then took a swing at conservatives — and the NRA — for falling into the same trap of asking for more legislation in the form of school guards.

Yep, trying to appeal to the "emotions" and not logic.

121212 says

“Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

Why is that, because you can't legislate mentally deranged people??

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:08am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 8

And your kind wants to limit the freedoms of Americans and still change NOTHING. MORON. Ron Paul is possibly the only person in all of our government with his head on straight.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:08am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

woppa says

Ron Paul is possibly the only person in all of our government with his head on straight.

OMFG LMFAO!!!

You made my day.

LOL.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:09am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 10

Call it Crazy says

Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

Call it Crazy   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 11

121212 says

Call it Crazy says

Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

Apparently, not criminals and past convicted felons....

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 12

It just goes to show how deep your misunderstanding of anything and everything relevant in our capitalist polyarchy society. You are severely misinformed of the truth. I pity you.

It is remarkable that Ron Paul gets elected when he flies in the face of everything that is our shithole society.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:11am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 13

Call it Crazy says

121212 says

“Government role is to protect liberty, not to pursue unobtainable safety,” he wrote.

Why is that, because you can't legislate mentally deranged people??

We could start with you? because your answers are always, do nothing! That's nuts.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:12am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 14

woppa says

It is remarkable that Ron Paul gets elected when he flies in the face of everything that is our shithole society.

"YOUR SHITHOLE SOCIETY PERHAPS" ,not mine.

You see we know it can be better, better without obstructionist Tea Party lunatics in the House.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:14am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 15

woppa says

ou are severely misinformed of the truth. I pity you.

I pity you too. To bury your head and say "nothing can be done about the current paradigm", shows an unwillingness to change and grow.

That's not this country.

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:14am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 16

Your happy with the stays quo? Obviously we are dealing with someone who isn't playing with a full deck. I am not a tea party douchebag either. Far from it.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 17

You cannot read !

Read it again.

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 18

Lmao you are clueless. I want more change then you could imagine. What isn't going to change is the fact that there are humans who are pieces of shit who are going to do insane things to their fellow man. This isn't the first time a firefighter was killed by a gun when responding to a fire/emergency. It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 19

woppa says

I am not a tea party douchebag either. Far from it.

Really! How would I know. You sound just like one.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:18am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 20

woppa says

It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

Eh! Are you being facetious?

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:19am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 21

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also said he didn’t support the plan.

“I am not someone who believes that having multiple armed guards in every school is something that will enhance the learning environment,” Gov. Chris Christie said last week. “You don’t want to make this an armed camp for kids.”

Call it Crazy   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 22

bob2356 says

Call it Crazy says

Camden head of school security says armed police at every school would be 'significant help'

A thermonuclear explosion directly in the center would be a "significant help" for Camden.

Sadly, you're right.... even the cops don't want to enter the city anymore..

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)     Comment 23

America needs lunchbox-friendly Gatling guns.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 24

woppa says

I want more change then you could imagine. What isn't going to change is the fact that there are humans who are pieces of shit who are going to do insane things to their fellow man.

What do you suggest?

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:34am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 25

121212 says

woppa says

It won't be the last. Maybe if guns never existed then it would not happen again. How could you not see that obvious truth is bewildering.

Eh! Are you being facetious?

It's a shame that your fear has not only allowed you to accept totalitarianism from our government, but you demand it! And they want nothing more than to oblige your foolishness. Do you think I'm being facetious?

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:43am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 26

woppa says

accept totalitarianism from our government,

Nope.

I want safety over security. Love over hate.

Are you not capable of answering a question. What radical solutions do you propose? None is not an answer.

woppa   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 5:56am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 27

Your question is ridiculous. Your asking how to stop flawed human beings from being flawed human beings. Like I said...not playing with a full deck of cards. Control me government, please.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:05am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 28

woppa says

Your question is ridiculous. Your asking how to stop flawed human beings from being flawed human beings.

No, you know very well I am talking about Gun Control. You continue to evade the question and offer no serious dialogue.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:07am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 29

woppa says

Control me government, please.

Infact if your listening we are saying "NO". No to armed guards at malls, cinemas, kindergarten, elementary schools. No to armed government intrusion. No to all .

So are you ready to talk gun control? Or a you still deflecting.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:08am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike     Comment 30

Armed guards? Given that an assailant could burst through any school door at any moment rockin' and rollin' on full auto, you need a responder that brings the ultrabadness to the party.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 31

Call it Crazy says

121212 says

Call it Crazy says

Criminals don't obey laws, like the Webster Firefighter shooter??

Your right, who needs laws! Fool.

Apparently, not criminals and past convicted felons....

Again you being foolish. Your premise of not having laws thus we have no criminals is a joke.

Without the rule of law you have no civilization.

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:27am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 32

121212 says

OMFG LMFAO!!!

You made my day.

LOL.

I should hope SO, you're the A-Hole spamming his decree out of context in every thread on this forum.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:29am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 33

CaptainShuddup says

should hope SO, you're the A-Hole spamming his decree out of context in every thread on this forum.

Nope, I'm not out of context and who asked you!

Your trolling is out of context.

Your comment has nothing to do with gun control.
I expect you to continue trolling this thread.

However you are useless miserable old Troll.

It's what most on this forum have come to expect from such a guttersnipe.

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 6:54am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 34

TROLL, and you're the guy playing hide the weenie from thread to thread.

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 7:05am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 35

CaptainShuddup TROLL

zzyzzx   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 7:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 36

121212 says

CaptainShuddup TROLL

121212   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 7:54am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 37

zzyzzx TROLL!

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 8:48am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 38

CaptainShuddup   Wed, 26 Dec 2012, 8:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 39

FortWayne   Thu, 27 Dec 2012, 1:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 40

It's a temporary patch, but i think it's a right step.

Until our nation changes into one that takes care of mentally ill and finds a way to improve it's moral values that is the best we can do.

More needs to be done, but who knows what politicians will actually will do. Left is talking about a gun ban, which would be stupid and a step in a wrong direction.

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