Few Americans know all the risks of obesity


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Only 7 percent of people surveyed mentioned cancer, although doctors long have known that fat increases the risk of developing cancers of the colon, breast, prostate, uterus and certain other sites. Plus, being overweight can make it harder to spot tumors early and to treat them.

Then there's the toll on your joints, especially the knees. About 15 percent of people knew obesity can contribute to arthritis, a vicious cycle as the joint pain then makes it harder to exercise and shed pounds.

High blood pressure, high cholesterol and strokes were fairly low on the list. Infertility didn't get a mention.

Also, 5 percent put respiratory problems on the list. Studies show people who are overweight are at increased risk of sleep apnea and asthma, and that dropping pounds can help improve their symptoms.

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  1. CaptainShuddup


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    64   10:31am Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (4)  

    carrieon says

    it's amazing how socially acceptable it is to pour a half gallon of sugar water down your gullet every day

    Socially acceptable? Where at the FOX nation?

    carrieon says

    Yes, I said that correctly. Diet drinks are actually worse because of their lethal chemical ingredients.

    I agree 100%. I always say the best Sugar substitute is no sugar.
    I haven't drank soda, in over 5 years. I've always been a black and straight up coffee drinker. Though I do take partake in a Coloda(Cuban Coffee 5oz serving with about 3 tbl spoons of sugar infused in the brewing process) from time to time. Other than that, I drink mostly ice water or green tea.

    It probably helps keep my weight stable. The only thing I notice by not consuming so much sugar anymore. Now when I do splurge on desert, I feel like the energy was sucked out of me, and feel a tad off. SO I generally try to avoid sugar all together, other than my occasional cuban coffee.

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    zzyzzx says

    121212 says

    Portion sizes need to be regulated at diners. The calorie counts are out of control.

    This country has suffered with massive plate syndrome for years and calories need to be displayed clearer on fast food menus and especially all advertising.

    Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!

    Then I have the perfect warning label for them:

    I think we just found the solution to our energy shortage. Lipo them whales and burn the fat.

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    66   11:15am Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (2)  

    zzyzzx says says

    Then I have the perfect warning label for them:

    Shit head

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    JodyChunder says

    I started chunking up a little after I hit my thirties. I blame the beer, fried okra, buttermilk, cheese grits and fried chicken by the sackful. I got back to my natural barbarian build by cutting back on the suds and substituting raw onions for snacks (eaten like you would an apple). I paired this new diet with midnight endurance runs through the desert 3X a week. I would ride my bike (a modified Schwinn Collegiate) like all hell for 5 miles, run barefoot in a five mile loop through the beautiful Morongo Valley back to my bike and then cycle back the five miles home to climb rope and jump on my trampoline for an hour. Even with an inflamed hip joint, I still manage to do a modified version of this heroic regimen once a week.

    (If you're going to try this program, mouthwash is important.)

    Raw onions are brutally powerful - in a good way.

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    turtledove says

    Because I have always been thin, I never gave much thought to the details of food. Then, when I was 35, I learned that my fasting cholesterol was 220! (my ratios were good). Regardless, I was mortified.

    No reason to be mortified. There is no evidence that cholesterol at these levels has any effect, there is also no evidence to support a strong link between cholesterol and heart disease (of course there are lethal values for everything). Still good to cut out processed crap.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Socially acceptable? Where at the FOX nation?

    Maybe that was a poor choice of words on my part. I meant that soda has become completely ingrained with our culture and sadly, "diet" soda is considered the "healthy" alternative by many.

    It just doesn't occur to a huge number of people that they simply don't have to drink it.

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    70   11:33am Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    zzyzzx says

    121212 says



    Portion sizes need to be regulated at diners. The calorie counts are out of control.


    This country has suffered with massive plate syndrome for years and calories need to be displayed clearer on fast food menus and especially all advertising.


    Advertise a Big Mac or Whopper with the Calories, educate first!


    Then I have the perfect warning label for them:


    Damn, that would be some defensive line in the nfl!

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    71   12:36pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    121212 says

    errc says

    Caloric info is a moot point

    No it's not. Americans consume way to many calories. The reason, they don't know how many calories they eat!

    Guess what dude, I drove thru your favorite MickeyD's today and guess what I saw??? All the calorie information was right up on the sign board next to all the burger information...

    So, tell me, how many people stop at the order speaker, read the calorie information, and then drive away without ordering??

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    72   12:59pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Call it Crazy says

    zzyzzx says

    121212 says

    What about heart disease and high sodium in DIET FOOD!

    Doesn't sodium content need to be displayed??

    I'm pretty sure that sodium AND fat content does need to be displayed.

    Anything you buy today has to have a nutrition sticker on it...

    The problem is, somebody needs to READ it before they CONSUME it....

    *

    Informationis onlyh as good as ones ability to utilize it. People can read labels all they want, so long as they don't know what the hell they're looking for, it won't matter a lick.

    Take this thread, for instance

    Potentially intelligible people have displayed their ignorance

    Suggesting consuming fat is bad
    Suggesting consuming sodium is bad
    Suggesting that people get fat, simply from a caloric glut

    The reality is much simpler. Fat storage is regulated by hormones. Consuming sugars throws off our internal fat regulation system, rendering one insulin resistant. To fix this, one needs to stop eating sugar and return to a state of insulin sensitivity

    Fat storage is an evolutionary trait that benefits survival. Fruits trigger an internal response, signalling winter is coming. The fructose tells the body to store fat. Today, there is no need to survive the winter on stored body fat, however, we eat a shitton more sugar than the human species ever has before. If you wish to lose fat from your body, stop consuming sugar altogether

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    73   1:20pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (4)  

    What? His response was legit, you backwater gasbag!

    121212 says

    zzyzzx says says

    Then I have the perfect warning label for them:

    Shit head

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    74   1:24pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (5)  

    Information is only as good as ones ability to communicate it.

    errc says

    Informationis onlyh as good as ones ability to utilize it.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    I don't know why I keep asking, I've yet to find one single diner in South Florida that makes an honest pot of Cheese grits.

    Lester's used to be a pretty safe bet.

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    Call it Crazy says

    Guess what dude, I drove thru your favorite MickeyD's today and guess what I saw??? All the calorie information was right up on the sign board next to all the burger information...

    Yes it is. There is a limit on the regulation 50 or more restaurants I believe.

    However I would be happier your server tells you the total calorie count (LOL) and that it's on each receipt itemized, with the counts and totals.

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    77   4:31pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

    I would like to see on the McD's food packaging in big numbers written the total calories for each item.

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    78   4:35pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike (1)  

    Also Chicken Nuggets are not Chicken pieces but a pink slime and cannot be called Chicken

    I want the fat and calories clearly labeled for kids to see.

    Crackdonalds is all about trapping the kids, they spend millions on it.

    Would you goto Disney world and see no warning labels? No.

    Example: Here kid have a 1500 calorie burger , 1000 calorie drink and you have no idea what it's doing to you or what your intake is for an entire day.

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    121212 says

    However I would be happier your server tells you the total calorie count (LOL) and that it's on each receipt itemized, with the counts and totals.

    At a fast food place I could see it being on the menu and receipt. At a sit down restaurant, on the menu. Good idea! In so far as the server or clerk mentioning it to you, that's probably too much to ask.

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    80   5:47pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    For what purpose would you like people to be given calorie information?

    As far as I'm concerned, its as useless a piece of information as one could come across,,,,

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    zzyzzx says

    At a fast food place I could see it being on the menu and receipt. At a sit down restaurant, on the menu. Good idea! In so far as the server or clerk mentioning it to you, that's probably too much to ask.

    California has a law (since '08) that requires caloric/nutritional information on all fast food and chain (over 20 units) restaurant menus. Trust me, nobody reads them.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR2008093002620.html

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    California has a law (since '08) that requires caloric/nutritional information on all fast food and chain (over 20 units) restaurant menus. Trust me, nobody reads them.

    Great observation! Even the uneducated public knows caloric/nutritional information stated on those labels is useless propaganda to sell processed food.

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    Here's a few not listed above:

    Makes getting dates impossible.
    Need two shopping carts in the supermarket to buy food.
    Can't fit into standard Movie seats, Airline seats, etc.
    No clothes in your size

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    carrieon says

    Even the uneducated public knows caloric/nutritional information stated on those labels is useless propaganda to sell processed food.

    True. I think my big take-away on this topic is that even in an age where information is literally at your fingertips 24/7/365.. people are all too happy to remain ignorant.

    That being said- I might follow a generally vegan diet, eat non-GM organics, drink no sodas, etc, but still smoke two packs a week. Nobody is perfect (but at least I know what my next step is).

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    Perhaps food should be priced based on caloric value.

    I do read the nutrition information, and I teach my children to do the same.

    I don't think printed nutritional information is useless, at all. For example... whenever I went out to restaurants I used to order big salads. When restaurants started printing the calorie information, I was shocked to learn that a full-size CPK cob salad is somewhere around 1500 calories! You think "salad" and you think it must be good for you. I would have kept ordering them thinking I was being healthy had it not been for the printed calorie information.

    Just because some people choose not to read the information provided to them doesn't mean that the information has no value. People choose to smoke despite warning labels. That doesn't mean that the cigarette warning labels should be removed.

    Speaking of cigarette warning labels... My husband went to the Middle East two years ago. He brought back a pack of cigarettes to show me the labeling. On the package, it had a picture of the most disgusting set of diseased lungs I've ever seen. Certainly nothing subtle about that! Yet, some people over there still choose to smoke.

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    86   7:00pm Tue 8 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    What is a calorie?

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    errc says

    What is a calorie?

    Did you ever see Supersize Me? They asked that question to several people on the street. The answers were pretty funny.

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    turtledove says

    errc says

    What is a calorie?

    Did you ever see Supersize Me? They asked that question to several people on the street. The answers were pretty funny.

    I think I saw it, however I don't remember that bit.

    A calorie is a unit of measurement.

    When people refer to calories in food, they're actually referring to kilocalories

    There are three components to food calories

    Carbohydrates, fats, and proteins.

    1gram of carbs = 4 calories
    1gram of protein= 4 calories
    1gram of fat. = 9 calories

    Just looking at calories alone doesn't really provide any information of value, especially for people looking to shed weight (fat)

    Fat is far more energy dense than carbs or proteins, hence it is much more satiating

    Few Americans know how to properly fuel their bodies, so you end up with a populace wholly ignorant on what one could argue is the most important aspect of their lives. Oversimplifying the nutritional contents of what one eats, has led society down a dangerous path, where people are simply counting total calories, without understanding that only the carbohydrates will cause people to get fat. The body breaks carbs down into glucogen/sugars, and when too many calories come from carbohydrates, people get fat. Eating fat and protein doesn't make people fat, because the body breaks fat down into glycerol and fatty acids, and protein into amino acids

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    As my name says, it's all about moderation.

    I can haz cheezburger! Just not every day.

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    TechGromit says

    No clothes in your size

    If that were the case, there would be obese naked people everywhere. (shudders).

    Homer had no trouble finding a poncho to wear:

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    Most professional diets include some form of calorie management, with targets on fats, carbs, proteins, etc...
    You've obviously never been on one of these...

    errc says

    For what purpose would you like people to be given calorie information?

    As far as I'm concerned, its as useless a piece of information as one could come across,,,,

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    SoftShell says

    Most professional diets include some form of calorie management, with targets on fats, carbs, proteins, etc...

    You've obviously never been on one of these...

    errc says

    For what purpose would you like people to be given calorie information?

    As far as I'm concerned, its as useless a piece of information as one could come across,,,,

    Au contraire, mon frere

    I tried numerous caloric restrictive diets, to no avail. While some of them provided temporary weight loss, none of them worked long term. Likely because I was ignorant, like most americans, as to what a proper macronutrient profile looks like, and how calories in general affect fat retention

    So I decided to learn why and how food works as fuel for our bodies. I never understood that it was hormonal. Then I happened upon some good science that finally informed me, and now I know, that the only number that matters on those nutritional labels is carbohydrates/sugars, when it comes to shedding fat and keeping it off.

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    And homer didn't find a poncho, he found a moo moo

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    One of the problems is recommending people snack on celery or broccoli.

    Doesn't work, because hunger is complex and not entirely related to the fullness of your stomach. They've removed stomachs from rats and they still got hungry at accustomed feeding times; hormones and blood sugar is involved. Because water and celery (which is mostly fiber and water itself) don't do anything for blood sugar and doesn't contain much digestible nutrients, it doesn't really 'alert' the body to begin the break down process, and so does not alleviate hunger (the bodys "Hunger Off" Switch is flicked when the stomach fills with DIGESTIBLE nutrients - Fiber is not digestible; rather it ferments in the colon).

    The problem is that the meme for several decades has been to treat calories interchangably, thinking they're like the second law of thermodynamics. But a food calorie is not a heat calorie; different macronutrients break down at different speeds using different bodily processes at different levels of efficiency, so the KIND of calorie does matter.

    It's like this: Diesel, Coal, and Kerosene have different properties, so just because say a certain size lump of coal has as much potential energy as a pint of kerosene, doesn't mean the usable energy output will be the same.

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    i'm not giving up my Grande Mocha Nonfat No Whip.....
    guess i'm doomed to be a fat fuck....

    errc says

    Then I happened upon some good science that finally informed me, and now I know, that the only number that matters on those nutritional labels is carbohydrates/sugars, when it comes to shedding fat and keeping it off.

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    turtledove says

    Speaking of cigarette warning labels... My husband went to the Middle East
    two years ago. He brought back a pack of cigarettes to show me the labeling. On
    the package, it had a picture of the most disgusting set of diseased lungs I've
    ever seen. Certainly nothing subtle about that! Yet, some people over there
    still choose to smoke.

    Some people?? I believe it's the vast majority of people and I believe that they start (or use to start) at a fairly young age too.

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    121212 says

    Also Chicken Nuggets are not Chicken pieces but a pink slime and cannot be called Chicken

    I want the fat and calories clearly labeled for kids to see.

    Crackdonalds is all about trapping the kids, they spend millions on it.

    Would you goto Disney world and see no warning labels? No.

    Example: Here kid have a 1500 calorie burger , 1000 calorie drink and you have no idea what it's doing to you or what your intake is for an entire day.

    Apparently somebody didn't like facts or near facts. amazing

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    SoftShell says

    Most professional diets include some form of calorie management, with targets on fats, carbs, proteins, etc...

    You've obviously never been on one of these...

    errc says

    For what purpose would you like people to be given calorie information?

    As far as I'm concerned, its as useless a piece of information as one could come across,,,,

    When those armchair experts can manipulate their macronutrient profiles to produce low body fat (10% or below in male) and 18-20% in females, then they'll be worth following. Carbs, protein and fat affect insulin and cortisol differently and any diet plan that doesn't take this into consideration is a loser's bet.

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    Article written by a buddy of mine who was more than 50 lbs overweight and is now a professional trainer who can put most of your professionals to shame.

    http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=5238915

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    Eat less crap. Exercise.
    Done.

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    Your not supposed to give the secret away so quickly....it'll kill the thread.

    Moderate Infidel says

    Eat less crap. Exercise.

    Done.

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    Moderate Infidel says

    Eat less crap. Exercise.

    Done.

    Your a genius you just solved the worlds obesity problem.

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    I like a lot of what Doc Paskowitz has to say on nutrition, health and well being in general. He's truly a living legend, and his book Surfing and Health is well worth a gander -- even if you don't surf (I don't).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74DmnAbLTAI

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