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Delinquent jumbo loans in Coastal California pollute bank balance sheets

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The good news in the mainstream media is that delinquency rates are down year-over-year. Of course, they ignore the fact that delinquencies have flatlined since the settlement agreement in February 2012 because that fact doesn’t fit with their optimism bias. The delinquency rate is a national average, so it doesn’t reflect where the delinquencies have declined and what segments of the loan market are recovering.

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1. Oil Can Follow Befriend 21 threads 125 comments Oil Can's website

   1   7:57am Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   You wonder how long will this go on? We are talking 5 years now.

2. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,439 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   2   8:18am Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   If 2013 looks like 2012 with respect to real estate appreciation, the problem will be diminished greatly. Like it or not, the solution to jumbo delinquencies is a re-inflated housing market. The banks can simply wait it out.

3. bmwman91 Follow Befriend (7) 37 threads 1,522 comments Mountain View, CA bmwman91's website Premium

   3   3:09pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says Like it or not, the solution to jumbo delinquencies is a re-inflated housing market. What is the solution to the re-inflated housing market? Maybe a discussion of the merits of high levels of consumer debt belongs in the economics section, but is a situation where people take on a level of debt that precludes discretionary spending elsewhere what the economy wants for long term stability? "Well you see, we got this here rat problem. So me and Billy went and got us some cats to kill them rats. Well, you see now we got this here cat problem! So me and Billy went and got some rottweilers to chase away them cats. Well, you see..."

4. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,439 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   4   3:14pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   bmwman91 says What is the solution to the re-inflated housing market? Maybe a discussion of the merits of high levels of consumer debt belongs in the economics section, but is a situation where people take on a level of debt that precludes discretionary spending elsewhere what the economy wants for long term stability? We are back to a pre-1930's boom-bust economy that will be difficult to navigate and cause lots of financial hardship. Obviously the next economic boom will end badly just like the previous one did. You can't treat the symptoms. If real estate transactions were reigned in, the money sloshing around would just go into stocks or oil or corn or something else that would make life difficult. The solution is to limit wealth disparity.

5. bmwman91 Follow Befriend (7) 37 threads 1,522 comments Mountain View, CA bmwman91's website Premium

   5   3:24pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   iwog says The solution is to limit wealth disparity. That's the real trick. As far as I can tell, the (or one of them) root causes is regulatory capture. The question is, though, can FDR style crack-downs on Wall Street happen without completely imploding the economy? Just about everyone with a retirement account or mutual finds is invested in the inflated financial sector and the baloney valuations of its products. Are we just delaying the next Great Depression, or can the corruption be reigned in without dire consequences? It looks to me like everyone is basically dependent on the continuation of current asset bubbles if they want to maintain the current quality of life.

6. raindoctor Follow Befriend (1) 3 threads 130 comments Mountain View, CA

   6   4:45pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   They appear delinquent to us. Since banks are not employing Basil III Mark to Market accounting, they don't worry about these jumbo loans. If they use mark to market accounting, banks end up loosing the capital. This is the reason why banks do not want to sell underwater homes. If they sell these, they have to show losses on the balance sheet. Losses will eat into the capital. We all think that it is rational for banks to just sell. Banks are rational too!

7. fedwatcher Follow Befriend 104 comments Sunnyvale, CA

   7   6:06pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   "raindoctor" got this right. The accounting rules were changed to allow insolvent banks to appear solvent. Thus, they sit on these delinquent jumbos. A further problem in California for the banks is that California has a single acction rule, that is even though the loans could be full-recourse (not original purchase money), to secure a deficancy judgement they have to use judical foreclosure. In many cases, the bank lacks the proper paperwork.

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   8   8:26pm Mon 21 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Oil Can says You wonder how long will this go on? We are talking 5 years now. I always liked the saying: "What can't continue, won't continue." I don't have any idea "how long" in this giant ponzi fraud economy.