For anyone who is interested and will to accept some education on firearms, here is a 7 minute video that will compare the scary AR-15 assault weapon to other common firearms and bullet calibers.
You might be surprised on how scary and powerful an AR-15 actually is.....

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marcus says
???
I guess I might if I were living in the midst of a tetchy car bomber...which, living where I do, is certainly plausible.
But my point was that the deranged sniper induces more terror in me personally than the deranged kid with his mom's semi and a Kevlar onesie. Look up Charles Whitman, the Beltway Sniper, the Arizona Sniper, etc., etc.
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permanent_marker says
Pffft, to HELL with the guns, brother...
Little games are for little boys.
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JodyChunder says
Yes but a patriot with a concealed sidearm is just as much a target in that scenario so please don't bring it up. The pro gun community would appreciate it you would keep your focus on situations where an armed citizen (preferably a senior citizen) can take down a gun-toting hooligan, preferably one who has taken a beautiful young thing as a human shield.
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JodyChunder says
Fucking TERRIFYING:
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Kevin says
Operative qualifiers: DERANGED; CHARLES WHITMAN; BELTWAY SNIPER.
Snipers within this context aren't protecting heads of state; snipers within this context do not usually make their positions known; snipers in this context do not clock in to work and fill out expense reports for target practice. Y'know?
Anyway, the point I was originally trying to illustrate was that it's the knee-jerk, gun-illiterate harpies who seize upon buzzwords like 'assault weapons' when the fact is, Adam Lanza could have just as easily devastated Newtown if he'd employed a high-precision rifle from 500 meters away.
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JodyChunder says
I was just kidding that it sounded paranoid, as if you have some pretty bad enemies, if you are worried about snipers. But I get that you didn't mean that you really are personally afraid of snipers...
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JodyChunder says
You can snipe through walls now? that Adam must been one helluva sniper.
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Moderate Infidel says
Remember the beltway snipers?
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Scagnetti says
Wasn't he shooting from a hole in the trunk of a car??
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So your point is we need to outlaw high powered sniping rifles because they are a huge threat to public safety. I'm aboard.
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Moderate Infidel says
Nope...I didn't say that. You did.
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Call it Crazy says
That's right. And from my memory, he only needed 1 shot each time. How would restricting magazine capacity prevent that? Or restricting semi auto's? Or restricting caliber? Do you think Moderate Infidel will say we should ban all guns?
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Scagnetti says
I don't want to ban guns. Also restricting magazine capacity wouldn't stop a sniper, that is obvious. I was commenting on the fact that some of you are really frightened by snipers so I would assume you would want to do something to prevent them. So what are your ideas for stopping snipers?
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Moderate Infidel says
sniper vs. sniper?
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Moderate Infidel says
Are snipers an "epidemic" now too?? I haven't heard that yet from the MSM or anti-gun crowds.
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How about a "Star Wars" system in front of every school that shoots down incoming bullets. FortWayne will love that idea.
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Call it Crazy says
Ask JodyChunder.
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Moderate Infidel says
How about a school system police department that purchased 14 AR-15 assault weapons for their own use.... what are they worried about?? Schools are a "gun-free" zone...
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/01/22/fontana-school-pd-purchases-14-ar-15-assault-weapons-to-protect-students/
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Moderate Infidel says
I like that...
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Democrats,Republicans,TBTF,Wall Street1!%, etc. have been fucking us for years. I've been throwing up in the mornings. Time to take a pregnancy test.
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HEY YOU says
The people who make our laws don't know jack shit about most things. We get the government we deserve.
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Moderate Infidel says
If they don't know "jack shit" about anything, maybe we should have a smaller government to minimize the damage they can do.
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Scagnetti says
What size do you propose?
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Moderate Infidel says
Just big enough to effectively and efficiently do everything we (Americans) NEED done and no more!
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Scagnetti says
I get it, but we need actual numbers and a viable plan to implement it.
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Scagnetti says
What Americans "need" done is really the entire crux of the debate about the size of government. Everybody has (and is entitled to) their own opinion. This process is called "democracy".
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Kevin says
I'm sure we can all agree that Americans don't "need" the following!
#1 The U.S. government is spending $750,000 on a new soccer field for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.
#2 The Obama administration plans to spend between 16 and 20 million dollars helping students from Indonesia get master’s degrees.
#3 If you can believe it, the U.S. government has spent $175,587 “to determine if cocaine makes Japanese quail engage in sexually risky behavior”.
#4 The U.S. government spent $200,000 on “a tattoo removal program” in Mission Hills, California.
#5 The federal government has shelled out $3 million to researchers at the University of California at Irvine to fund their research on video games such as World of Warcraft. Wouldn’t we all love to have a “research job” like that?
#6 The Department of Health and Human Services plans to spend $500 million on a program that will, among other things, seek to solve the problem of 5-year-old children that “can’t sit still” in a kindergarten classroom.
#7 Fannie Mae is about to ask the federal government for another $4.6 billion bailout, and it will almost certainly get it.
#8 The federal government once spent 30 million dollars on a program that was designed to help Pakistani farmers produce more mangos.
#9 The U.S. Department of Agriculture once gave researchers at the University of New Hampshire $700,000 to study methane gas emissions from dairy cows.
#10 According to USA Today, 13 different government agencies “fund 209 different science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) education programs — and 173 of those programs overlap with at least one other program.”
#11 A total of $615,000 was given to the University of California at Santa Cruz to digitize photos, T-shirts and concert tickets belonging to the Grateful Dead.
#12 China lends us more money than any other foreign nation, but that didn’t stop our government from spending 17.8 million dollars on social and environmental programs for China.
#13 The U.S. government once spent 2.6 million dollars to train Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly.
#14 One professor at Stanford University was given $239,100 to study how Americans use the Internet to find love.
#15 The U.S. Postal Service spent $13,500 on a single dinner at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse.
#16 The National Science Foundation once spent $216,000 to study whether or not politicians “gain or lose support by taking ambiguous positions”.
#17 A total of $1.8 million was spent on a “museum of neon signs” in Las Vegas, Nevada.
#18 The federal government spends 25 billion dollars a year maintaining federal buildings that are either unused or totally vacant.
#19 U.S. farmers are given a total of $2 billion each year for not farming their land.
#20 The U.S. government handed one Tennessee library $5,000 for the purpose of hosting a series of video game parties.
#21 A few years ago the government spent $123,050 on a Mother’s Day Shrine in Grafton, West Virginia. It turns out that Grafton only has a population of a little more than 5,000 people.
#22 One professor at Dartmouth University was given $137,530 to create a “recession-themed” video game entitled “Layoff”.
#23 According to the Heritage Foundation, the U.S. military spent “$998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida”.
#24 The U.S. Department of Agriculture once shelled out $30,000 to a group of farmers to develop a tourist-friendly database of farms that host guests for overnight “haycations”.
#25 The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk.
#26 The National Institutes of Health also once spent $442,340 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam.
#27 The National Institutes of Health loves to spend our tax money on really bizarre things. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa.
#28 According to the Washington Post, 1,271 different government organizations work on government programs related to counterterrorism and homeland security.
#29 The U.S. government spent $100,000 on a “Celebrity Chef Fruit Promotion Road Show in Indonesia”.
#30 The feds once gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 “to paint a Chinook salmon” on the side of a Boeing 737.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/30-stupid-things-the-governemnt-is-spending-money-on
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Scagnetti says
ditto
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Scagnetti says
and that is totally unacceptable...down right freaking wrong!
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Scagnetti says
I don't need TRILLION dollar wars either.
Your stuff is penny-ante bullshit by comparison.
Much like the idiot hemmorhaging money like a firehose, who decides to "economize" by brownbagging their lunch.
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Vicente says
What the hell do you mean "my stuff"??? That was simply a list everybody could agree on no matter where on the political spectrum you may fall.
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Call it Crazy says
Who would've imagined that higher caliber guns make bigger holes? Duh!
Maybe they should shoot one of the Fox guys, just to prove that they're not really scary and powerful?
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Scagnetti says
Clearly not true, since there are people who voted for the spending.
I'm a big fan of people who have no idea what the NIH does and blasts every dollar that they spend. Nevermind the millions and millions of people who would be dead or severely disabled without NIH-funded research. People who don't know anything about how research grants work just make me sad for America's future position in the world.
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Kevin says
Are you telling me that if those spending measures were brought to a popular vote by all Americans and the choices were;
A) Approve the spending for those items
Or
B) Get the money back through a rebate check
the majority would vote to approve the spending?
Or do you admit it was probably just pork attached to another bill?
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Kevin says
I'll tell you what....I can save us money. Instead of....
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You can wash mine for free and then study the impact.
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Scagnetti says
Neither. The claim was that "everybody could agree". Obviously false.
You know how many things every american votes on? Just one: Who represents them. That's how a republic works.
Scagnetti says
Are you a man living in South Africa, a country with an extremely high rate of STDs and where America has significant interests? No? Ok. Then try again after you've had some time to learn what the NIH is and how it works.
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Kevin says
Oh....so you're saying I should have said the vast majority...Woopity Doo! Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me.
Kevin says
I know how a republic works. That's not how I framed the question is it? Just admit most people do no want the above list! Admit most of the list is just pork! Admit that if each of those items were not attached to some other bill and had to be approved on their own merits, they wouldn't pass!
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Yes I am...now start washing.
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Scagnetti says
There is nothing on this list that I would not need more information on before making my knee-jerk reaction on if we should be spending money on it. It seems more like the kind of list that people who know don't know jack-shit about many-a-thing write to rile up and elicit emotional responses from people who also don't know jack-shit.
Scagnetti says
So, what you are suggesting is that we replace the current set of people who don't know jack-shit, with another set of people who possible know even less jack-shit, but that agree with your imaginings on how a government should be run.
No thanks.
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Scagnetti says
NIH grants aren't attached to other bills. Again: Learn how the NIH works.
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HIV causes instability. Researching ways to prevent it in countries like south Africa means more stability. South Africa is one of the few stable democracies in Africa. Its essential to us interests that it remains so.
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Scagnetti says
I wouldn't have paid any attention to you normally, but you certainly put up a lot of comments that have nothing to say.
No we don't all agree with your list, and most of the "pork" you provided has cross economic purposes.