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Tiger Woods admits he left California because of high tax rates


By zzyzzx   Follow   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 1:17am PST   2,274 views   47 comments
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266830/Tiger-Woods-admits-left-California-tax-rates.html

Tiger Woods said today that the reason he left California in the mid-Nineties was because the state's taxes were too high.

The golfer spoke at a press conference on Tuesday about his decision to move to Florida in 1996.

Speaking at Torrey Pines Golf Course in La Jolla, California, Woods said: 'I moved out of here back in ’96 for that reason.'

Woods, who is worth an estimated $600million, was referring to comments made by fellow golfer Phil Mickelson on Sunday that he will make 'drastic changes' because of federal and California state tax increases.

Referring to his rival, 37-year-old Woods added: 'I enjoy Florida, but also I understand what he was, I think, trying to say.'

Mickelson, who is worth an estimated $73million, released a statement on Monday saying that he regretted making remarks about his taxes which were a 'personal matter'.

'And I'm going to have to make some drastic changes. I'm not going to jump the gun and do it right away, but I will be making some drastic changes.'

The 42-year-old golfer said he would talk in more detail about his plans - possibly moving away from California or even retiring from golf - before his hometown Farmers Insurance Open, the San Diego-area event that starts on Thursday at Torrey Pines.

In November, California voters approved Proposition 30, the first statewide tax increase since 2004. Mickelson lives in Rancho Santa Fe.

'If you add up all the federal and you look at the disability and the unemployment and the Social Security and the state, my tax rate's 62, 63 per cent,' Mickelson said. 'So I've got to make some decisions on what I'm going to do.'

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Moderate Infidel   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 4:48am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 8

Rich people don't live in one spot regardless of what state they claim for tax reasons.

david1   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 5:21am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 9

Perhaps all taxes should be optional. However, if you chose not to pay them under current tax law, then you have no access to anything that taxes pay for.

No use of Hospitals receiving any federal funding. That takes care of most of them. As far as I know, all US physician residencies are paid federal grants. So no access to doctors either.

No hiring of employees that received education in state or federal funded institutions. Primary school, high school, uni, if an employee attended any of that, they cannot work for you unless you pay taxes.

No use of the public infrastructure either. No roads. No telecommunications regulated by the FCC. No TV. No use of national or state parks.

You can leave the country, I suppose. Good luck getting anywhere without using the roads though. Or getting on a plane without using a federal or state funded airport. Or getting on a boat that is not in a government funded port. Maybe you are a good swimmer. If not, I hear Canada is nice. They might have taxes too though...Mexico then. Damn - Mexico has taxes too? Better figure out a way to swim to the Bahamas then.

Also, good luck getting your money out of the FDIC insured, bailed out bank. Or the money you have in stocks insured by the SIPC. Or the federal reserve notes you have in your mattress. Try to redeem any of those without the government requiring them to do so. They might just tell you to pound sand...

I guess your wealth could be in gold, but good luck carrying that across all the private property (since you cannot use state owned property) to the border without someone deciding that they might want to take that gold from you as you cross their property. Gold is sort of heavy too, by the way. And don't think about calling the cops when they are robbing you, because they won't come to your rescue. Maybe you have a gun and can defend yourself...I hope for your sake someone else doesn't come along with a bigger gun..

I hope you are not hungry, because that food in the grocery store didn't just magically appear; it got there on those roads or rail tracks that you cannot use. Since you cannot use the roads, you cannot use anything that got to you by way of the roads. Maybe you live on a farm and grow your own food...

Or thirsty. I guess if you have a lake or stream on your property, you might not die. Maybe you had a well drilled. But don't turn on your sink hooked into the public infrastructure. Can't use that anymore.

I guess we could develop an ala carte menu for those who opt out of taxes. You want to hire someone with a public education? Sure, just share in the cost of it. You want to get water from the public infrastructure? Sure, share in the cost of that too. Want to use the roads? Sure - just a pay the fee to use them. Need to go to the doctor? Sure, just share the cost of his public education and publicly funded residency.

Wait - sharing the cost of all of the services the government provides - that sounds like paying taxes!

What a quandary.

Maybe you should just wonder at and appreciate all of the things the rest of us provide for you and send your check off to Uncle Sam with a smile.

edvard2   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 5:51am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 10

Good for him. More room for us. Maybe he moved to somewhere that gets miserably cold... like Maryland or something.

Moderate Infidel   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 6:41am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 11

If all the millionaires are leaving California then who is buying their houses?

edvard2   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 7:27am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 12

Moderate Infidel says

If all the millionaires are leaving California then who is buying their houses?

Yeah- since ALL of the millionaires are leaving, I'll go buy one of their houses for $50,000 since all who will be left will just be ordinary plebeians like me.

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 7:36am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 13

Moderate Infidel says

If all the millionaires are leaving California then who is buying their houses?

wanna be Millionaires... pretty much most of Hollywood packed their bags starting back in 2000-2003 or so and started to move to Nevada. That is why so much (and too much) construction was put up in LV and Arizona. Lots of NorCal SV tech millionaires moved to Reno/Tahoe. Yes.. they do visit CA at times... but like so many natives.. makes no difference... many are happy today away from the rat race.

edvard2   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 7:55am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 14

Most of the nice areas-ala- San Diego, SF, LA, and so on are mostly people from the Northeast and Midwest anyway. So its not like they're doing anything different anyway. They're simply moving... again.

zzyzzx   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 8:50am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 15

Moderate Infidel says

If all the millionaires are leaving California then who is buying their houses?

Nobody!

thomaswong.1986   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 8:57am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)     Comment 16

edvard2 says

hey're simply moving... again.

The CA natives are "moving out"...
the ones 'moving in' are from North East..

Oxygen   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 9:09am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 17

Moderate Infidel says

Rich people don't live in one spot regardless of what state they claim for tax reasons.

exactly.

Vicente   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 2:32pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 18

The story I find unbelievable is where Tiger prostrated himself before ex and begged her to take him back. Then proceeded to promise even MORE of his fortune if she would.

I mean, that's just insane.

marcus   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 10:09pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 19

Maybe Tiger's move to Florida was more about there being no state income tax in FLorida than it was about getting away from California's high taxes.

Florida's tax rates are attractive compared to any state's.

lostand confused   Wed, 23 Jan 2013, 11:49pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

FL has other flaws-like lifetime alimony. Hulk Hogan had to pay 70% of his fortune to Linda Hogan and she is shacked up with a 20yr old kid in his -now her house.

While prenup may work, who knows with judges tossing many aside. Tiger ended up paying 100 million dollars to his ex for a few years of marraige-that is just insane. Tom Cruise's prenup with katie Holmes, but the gold digger got him through child support. He is reputed to have agreed to pay 33k a month plus all the child's expenses. I mean if he is paying all the child's expenses, why pay 33k a month to her-she is an actress?? But at least he escaped from alimony.

edvard2   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 1:22am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 21

You couldn't pay me to move to Florida. Glad tiger likes it though.

Strategic Renter   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 1:26am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

Apart from the humidity, Florida beats California in every way.

edvard2   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 1:38am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 23

Strategic Renter says

Apart from the humidity, Florida beats California in every way.

ha ha! No way. I grew up the South and whenever we went to FL, we could barely wait to get back. Mentioning the weather is a gross understatement: Its absolutely miserable. The vast majority of the state is utterly flat and boring.

Sorry, I'll take Cali any day of the week over FL. But to each their own...

Vicente   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 6:29am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

edvard2 says

whenever we went to FL, we could barely wait to get back.

Used to drive through Central Florida all the time on the way to dive sites.

One time I stumbled out from back of the van, to get some ice cream at local DQ-like establishment and asked a local girl "where am I?"

Her answer MIDDLE OF NOWHERE KEEP DRIVING!

Florida, it may be a year-round sauna but at least the people are rude.

edvard2   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 7:46am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

We used to have fun at Daytona Beach. There's some interesting areas too. But the vast majority of the state is a hole. I remember we would spend 12 hours in the car driving down ( gas was 89 cents a gallon then) For approximately 90% of the drive there was NOTHING. As in it was flat, and there were billboards advertising firecrackers and oranges 100 miles from the store. You'd literally see signs that said:

" ONLY 45 miles away from Billybob's firecracker, souvenir, and walnut log store!!"

I remember when we finally did get to the beach that being outside from 10:00AM to around 4:00PM was miserable. 95 degrees and 95% humidity.

Lastly, most Southerners do not view FL as the South: Practically every other person from the Northeast moved down there.

Moderate Infidel   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 9:13am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 26

Strategic Renter says

Apart from the humidity, Florida beats California in every way.

Lived in Florida, now California. I like California way more. Maybe you lived in Bakersfield?

marcus   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 10:46am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 27

Better still, don't get married until you're ready to be monogamous, or don't get married at all.

Moderate Infidel   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 11:00am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

marcus says

Better still, don't get married until you're ready to be monogamous, or don't get married at all.

Or she/he's richer than you.

marcus   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 11:52am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 29

Well, that would be a lot easier for me or you, than it would for Tiger.

Moderate Infidel   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 12:44pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 30

Say you make 20 million a year and your ex wife gets half. Can you live on only 10 million? These are the hardships rich people have to deal with. Please, for God's sake, have some compassion for these poor people.

SoftShell   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 12:50pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 31

that guy and his dog....

Moderate Infidel says

If all the millionaires are leaving California then who is buying their houses?

Vicente   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 1:42pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 32

edvard2 says

Southerners do not view FL as the South: Practically every other person from the Northeast moved down there.

Not just Yankees, but OLD Yankees.

They don't call it "God's Waiting Room" for nothing.

Bugs had the right idea:

JodyChunder   Thu, 24 Jan 2013, 2:13pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 33

edvard2 says

We used to have fun at Daytona Beach.

Yikes. This speaks volumes.

Vicente says

One time I stumbled out from back of the van

How'd you break free from all that duct tape? Had the Ruffies not kicked in yet?

zzyzzx   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 3:23am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 34

edvard2 says

Good for him. More room for us. Maybe he moved to somewhere that gets miserably cold... like Maryland or something.

Obligatory:

Thedaytoday   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 3:27am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 35

Keep taking the Ambien!

Multi Millionaires with more money than sense complaining about TAXES!

FUCK THIS MORON! He just gave up HALF oF HIS WEALTH+ ++++ for cheating on his WIFE.

Loser prick.

edvard2   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 3:57am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)     Comment 36

zzyzzx says

edvard2 says

Good for him. More room for us. Maybe he moved to somewhere that gets miserably cold... like Maryland or something.

Obligatory:

What is that? A remote control snow shoveler? I remember when I lived in the Northeast for a few years the first time it snowed and the boss sent me out to shovel the walk ( I had never done it before) I took the long handled shovel, held onto it facing my stomach, and got a good running start. I hit a large crack in the sidewalk and the handle went right into my stomach. I've hated snow ever since.

epitaph   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 4:15am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 37

I've read enough about Tiger Woods to know that he is a shithead in general, as are many famous people, especially athletes. Great golfer though.

zzyzzx   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 9:16am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 38

edvard2 says

What is that? A remote control snow shoveler?

It's the Roboplow:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2010/04/remote-controlled-snow-plow/

B.A.C.A.H.   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 1:08pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 39

Thedaytoday says

F**K THIS MORON! He just gave up HALF oF HIS WEALTH+ ++++ for cheating on his WIFE

Didn't OJ Simpson move from California to Florida?

Well at least Tiger didn't kill people.

New Renter   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 1:50pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 40

B.A.C.A.H. says

Well at least Tiger didn't kill people.

That we know of!

Come on, with a name like "Tiger" he's got to have a few bodies stashed around somewhere.

Entitlemented   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 1:54pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 41

Notice lots of expensive housing hitting the MLS........

Anyone else see high end listings?

New Renter   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 1:57pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 42

Strategic Renter says

Apart from the humidity, Florida beats California in every way.

Bugs, snakes, alligators, rednecks, unpredictable weather, stand your ground, and this kid - You're right, Florida is FAR better than CA

At least housing is cheaper

New Renter   Fri, 25 Jan 2013, 1:58pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 43

Entitlemented says

Notice lots of expensive housing hitting the MLS........

Anyone else see high end listings?

What price range?

Thedaytoday   Sun, 27 Jan 2013, 4:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 44

marcus says

Maybe Tiger's move to Florida was more about there being no state income tax in FLorida than it was about getting away from California's high taxes.

Florida's tax rates are attractive compared to any state's.

Maybe your a pussy!

TechGromit   Mon, 28 Jan 2013, 9:23pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 45

Thedaytoday says

FUCK THIS MORON! He just gave up HALF oF HIS WEALTH+ ++++ for cheating on his WIFE.

If you can't keep your dick in your pants, don't get married, pretty simple strategy for keeping most of your wealth. I guess he just had to have the super model white wife, is this the ultimate goal of every black man to marry a white women?

These are just some of the famous ones:

OJ Simpson
Frederick Douglass
Sidney Poitier
Henry Louis Gates
Kanye West
Harry Belafonte
Gordon Parks
James Brown
Dave Chappelle
Van Jones
Charlie Wilson
Flavor Flav
Charles Barkley
Cornel West

FaithInHim   Wed, 30 Jan 2013, 12:46am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 46

Can a person making 60K a year live in Cali?

No

http://www.mybudget360.com/how-much-to-be-middle-class-in-california-california-household-income/

Peter P   Wed, 30 Jan 2013, 12:49am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 47

Like Ernie Els better.

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