Paul Ryan the little boy who cried wolf too many times


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Ryan is bitter as Obama's Inauguration speech lifted major parts of a speech he gave. Obama and was able to use Ryan's words and turn them against him. The similar parts of the speech played side by side elaborate on the same point except people heard Obama's speech and no one heard Ryan's.

Obama Seeking ‘Political Conquest’ of G.O.P., Ryan Says

Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, the former vice-presidential candidate, said Sunday that President Obama was ignoring the nation’s problems, choosing instead to focus on the “political conquest” of the Republican Party.

“When you saw his speech, say, at the inauguration, it leads us to conclude that he’s not looking to moderate, that he’s not looking to move to the middle,” Mr. Ryan said in an interview on the NBC News program “Meet the Press.” “He’s looking to go farther to the left, and he wants to fight us every step of the way politically.”

Mr. Ryan, in his first major interview since the November election, also warned that more partisan gridlock was in store as lawmakers prepared to renew debate over balancing the budget and raising the country’s debt limit.

His remarks echoed those of other Republican leaders including John A. Boehner, the House speaker, who last week said Mr. Obama was seeking to “annihilate” the Republican Party.

Republicans were put on the defensive after Mr. Obama’s inauguration speech, in which he laid out a starkly liberal vision for his second term, declaring his support for gay marriage and gun restrictions and for changes in immigration laws.

With his stature increased within the party, Mr. Ryan, who chairs the House Budget Committee, will increasingly be expected to set the tone for Republicans, particularly on fiscal issues.

In a speech at a National Review Institute conference on Saturday, Mr. Ryan urged his Republican colleagues to “stick together and carefully pick our fights with President Barack Obama.”

“We can’t get rattled,” he said. “We won’t play the villain in his morality plays.”

On Sunday, in a stinging rebuke to Mr. Obama, he said that had Hillary Rodham Clinton beat him to win the Democratic nomination in 2008 and gone on to win the presidency, “we would have fixed this fiscal mess by now.”

“I don’t think that the president thinks that we actually have a fiscal crisis,” he said. “He’s been reportedly saying to our leaders that we don’t have a spending problem, we have a health care problem. That just leads me to conclude that he actually thinks we just need more government-run health care.”

But he acknowledged that the Republican Party needed to reach out to a broader cross section of Americans, and he signaled a willingness to compromise on some issues.

“We obviously have to expand our appeal,” he said. “We have to show how our ideas are better at fighting poverty, how our ideas are better at solving health care, how our ideas are better at solving the problems that arise in people’s daily lives.”

On immigration, he said he was hopeful that some kind of legislation could be passed this year, if Mr. Obama did not “play politics.”
“Immigration is a good thing,” he said. “But we need to make sure it works.”

He also said he supported background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but called for an approach that did not simply ban certain kind of weapons.

Asked what he thinks about a presidential run in 2016, he said, “I don’t.”

“I’ll decide later about that.”

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  1. David Losh


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    1   4:22pm Sun 27 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    This a great topic, because I think Paul Ryan is a real problem for America.

    We were told repeatedly by the right wing media that Paul Ryan had a handle on this budget crisis he keeps screaming about, but in the debates he was just laughable. He kept repeating his same old tired phrases about economic calamity.

    This guy is totally out of touch as he demonstrated in these Benghazi hearings where he said he would fire Hilary Clinton for the breach of security at the embassy.

    This guy gets the same inteligence reports as everyone else, so no one was stupid enough to call out Hilary Clinton so blatantly.

    She kind of turned the tables on the hearing so many time you would think those Congress people were to blame for Benghazi. Oops, they are the ones who cut funding for Embassy security, so oops, that is kind of a Paul Ryan kind of thing.

    Paul Ryan is the leader of the pack of stupid.

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    David Losh says

    She kind of turned the tables on the hearing so many time you would think those Congress people were to blame for Benghazi. Oops, they are the ones who cut funding for Embassy security, so oops, that is kind of a Paul Ryan kind of thing.

    Paul Ryan is the leader of the pack of stupid.

    While this may be a harsh but mostly fair assessment of Paul Ryan the fact that congress got those security reports does nothing to alleviate Clinton's responsibility and failure to act. Totally different things.

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    3   5:43pm Sun 27 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    mell says

    security reports does nothing to alleviate Clinton's responsibility and failure to act.

    Clinton is Secratary of State, she has budget constraints the same as every other Department under the President.

    The problem Paul Ryan has is the debates Mitt Romney, and he had with Obama, and Biden. This is where Ryan should have stayed quite: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/16/joe-biden/joe-biden-says-paul-ryan-cut-embassy-security-300-/

    Ryan, made another stupid mistake, on top of all the stupid mistakes he has made with his budget proposals.

    In other words Clinton stole his lunch money. Any political gain Ryan hoped for was trashed.

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    David Losh says

    Clinton is Secratary of State, she has budget constraints the same as every other Department under the President.

    very little to do with anyones budget.. thats a red herring.

    Sept 11 is coming up ...

    that chances of a terrorist attack in a middle east US embassy/consulate is certainly far higher than one in Iceland. Does this mean we sill have our guard down every Sept 11 with Obama.

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    5   8:33pm Sun 27 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    don't know about obama, but definitly with hillary.
    this is gonna be 'swift boat' material come 2016....

    thomaswong.1986 says

    David Losh says

    Clinton is Secratary of State, she has budget constraints the same as every other Department under the President.

    very little to do with anyones budget.. thats a red herring.

    Sept 11 is coming up ...

    that chances of a terrorist attack in a middle east US embassy/consulate is certainly far higher than one in Iceland. Does this mean we sill have our guard down every Sept 11 with Obama.

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    6   7:23pm Mon 28 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    SoftShell says

    It doesn't take much to put endangered people on a plane

    Yeah, on a plane, getting them out of harms way the same as they could have done for themselves, but they didn't.

    Republicans don't like the argument that as the ambassador he had a duty to his staff to get them out of harms way. Instead he chose to go to dinner.

    The Secratary of State has very little to say about who stays or goes from an embassy.

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    7   7:25pm Mon 28 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    This thread is about Paul Ryan. I pointed out that on that particular day Paul Ryan chose to attack the Secratary of State, and she stole his lunch money.

    The entire hearing was a disaster for Republicans, but Paul Ryan topped them all.

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    8   7:54pm Mon 28 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Then why did she cop a plea??
    u lose.
    Case Closed.

    David Losh says

    The Secratary of State has very little to say about who stays or goes from an embassy.

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    9   9:23am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    SoftShell says

    Then why did she cop a plea??

    What plea? That she is ultimately repsonsible?

    Sure she is. She had nothing to do that day, and the Benghazi Embassy was the only place on earth swarmed with protestoer, or terrorists.

    The fact is the ambassador chose to go to dinner that night with another person who could be called a terrorist. The ambassador had a safe house he chose to avoid that night.

    No one wants to say that the ambassador may have been the one who didn't respond to his situation that night, because he is dead.

    It's much easier to blame a woman in an office half way around the world.

    It makes no difference really. Paul Ryan made a very bad mistake for attacking Hillary Clinton.

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    10   10:07am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    No.
    The plea "That she is ultimately responsible".

    She is guilty as charged, which is why she plead GUILTY.

    David Losh says

    SoftShell says

    Then why did she cop a plea??

    What plea? That she is ultimately repsonsible?

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    11   10:09am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    So then, in other words:

    If you are guilty of a crime, but you are half way around the world, then you are not really guilty??,.

    I see.....
    Hmmmm......

    David Losh says

    It's much easier to blame a woman in an office half way around the world.

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    12   10:49am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    SoftShell says

    If you are guilty of a crime,

    What crime?

    SoftShell says

    It is also factual that the ambassador requested extra security from the state department, and was denied.

    It wasn't in his budget. You, I understand, but members of Congress know exactly how requests are handled.

    The only thing that I know is that these terrorists needed to be hunted down, and killed, swiftly, and the Republican Party, because of ole Mitt Romney, and his stupid press conference, have interferred with that.

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    13   10:50am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    So SoftShell, basically you have nothing to add, you are just making comments for no reason.

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    14   11:17am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    I've reiterated the facts, which you've distorted, to protect clinton's liability.
    In your eyes i've not 'added' anything because what i've exposed, you refuse to acknowledge, instead clinging to your version of where the culpability lies...

    David Losh says

    So SoftShell, basically you have nothing to add, you are just making comments for no reason.

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    15   11:21am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    LOL....
    So you leave an ambassador hanging out to dry because "it wasn't in his budget"??
    C'mon...you can do better....

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    SoftShell says

    It is also factual that the ambassador requested extra security from the state department, and was denied.

    It wasn't in his budget.

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    16   11:22am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    I doubt that had any impact at all.....

    David Losh says

    The only thing that I know is that these terrorists needed to be hunted down, and killed, swiftly,, and the Republican Party, because of ole Mitt Romney, and his stupid press conference, have interferred with that.

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    17   12:50pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You should get out of the country more, like Libya, to know how things work.

    No ambassador is ever left hanging out to dry, but Congress knows that a request for added security is a budgetary process. That's what makes these proceedings so ridiculous.

    She stole the lunch money, spanked the committee for it's absurd assertions, and is now onto her next endevour, whatever that might be.

    Yes, Congress is well aware that they are iterferring with swift justice in the Middle East, because they think they are getting political traction.

    That's what makes them so stupid, but Paul Ryan takes the cake.

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    18   12:58pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    This is in direct contradiction to the available facts.
    extra security was not provided when asked for. being an emergency situation, there should not have been any "budgetary process". There should have been direct action.

    David Losh says

    You should get out of the country more, like Libya, to know how things work.

    No ambassador is ever left hanging out to dry

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    19   2:10pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    SoftShell says

    This is in direct contradiction to the available facts.

    You're right, you should get some facts, but Congress has the facts; that's what makes this all the more ridiculous.

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    20   3:01pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (3)  

    Your right also...
    Congress does have the facts...Negligent homicide.
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/29/graham-clinton-got-away-with-murder-in-benghazi/?hpt=hp_t1

    David Losh says

    SoftShell says

    This is in direct contradiction to the available facts.

    You're right, you should get some facts, but Congress has the facts;

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    21   3:28pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    SoftShell says

    Your right

    Last paragraph says: An independent report, ordered by the State Department, said it did not find "that any individual U.S. Government employee engaged in misconduct or willfully ignored his or her responsibilities" leading up to the attack. However, one State Department official resigned and three others were placed on administrative leave after the report was released in December.

    The gentleman quoted in the article only makes assertions concerning his opinions, that are contrary to the facts.

    He knows it, but as the article says the Republican Party is looking for some levergae, any leverage, in the next Congressional elections, or Presidential elections.

    Benghazi is blowing up in the Republicans faces, and give Democrats more witch hunt foder.

    The ambassador had options. He didn't need permission. You said so yourself.

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    22   3:30pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    That's a beaut....referencing a report bought and paid for by the guilty party.

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    SoftShell says

    Your right

    Last paragraph says: An independent report, ordered by the State Department, said it did not find "that any individual U.S. Government employee engaged in misconduct or willfully ignored his or her responsibilities" leading up to the attack.

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    23   3:39pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    so the report states nobody screwed up, yet 4 roaches went scurrying out of the cupboard.....mucking up the evidence trail to protect the Queen...and you swallow this hook, line, and sinker..

    David Losh says

    SoftShell says

    Your right

    Last paragraph says: An independent report, ordered by the State Department, said it did not find "that any individual U.S. Government employee engaged in misconduct or willfully ignored his or her responsibilities" leading up to the attack. However,one State Department official resigned and three others were placed on administrative leave after the report was released in December.

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    24   3:46pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Since when is this a 'distortion'??
    Name changes happen all the time.
    17,000 people change their name every year...
    Why are you freaking out over a common act??

    KarlRoveIsScum says

    Who is Softshell?

    What's that about distortions XRPB11A?

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    25   3:48pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    The subject is Clinton's self-proclaimed guilt.
    Nobody's arguing about what the ambassador could have/should have done...

    David Losh says

    The ambassador had options. He didn't need permission. You said so yourself.

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    26   5:54pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    SoftShell says

    referencing a report bought and paid for by the guilty party

    No, it was bought, and paid for by the State Department, big difference, and referenced in your own link.

    Sure, everybody would fall on the sword to get this behind us, but the Republican Party is to stupid to let it go.

    Personally I think it's great that Republicans are that stupid, and Paul Ryan particularly.

    Now if you want to move on we could get to some of the other Paul Ryan quips about the budgetary process, and projections that he has made.

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