Here is an article that explains how Apple is missing the boat and will continue


By CaptainShuddup   Follow   Tue, 29 Jan 2013, 7:43am   3,731 views   58 comments
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...on a downward spiral.

Apple just announced 128gig iphone. That is their idea of innovation. Yet there's not one appliance, car, or any non apple device that has the Apple iOS on it. More over Apple seems to go out of their way to thwart manufacturers from creating devices that communicate with the iOS, let alone docking devices. Hello lightening.

The remote for your life
http://techcentral.my/news/story.aspx?file=/2013/1/14/it_news/20130114130231&sec=IT_News

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  1. Call it Crazy


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    1   7:54am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    Haven't you learned yet... don't question.....

    Just run right out like a good zombie and stand in line for hours to get your new 128gig iPhone...

    It's your American duty!!!

    Now go!!! :)

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    2   8:11am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I didn't realize Apple was launching an 128GB iPhone, but that's great news. I would eventually like to have all of my music, podcasts, educational seminars on my phone with me without running into my carrier's bandwidth caps. One more step in doubling flash memory might not be that innovative, but it goes one more step to solving problems I'm having with storage.

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    3   8:17am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    taketheplunge says

    I didn't realize Apple was launching an 128GB iPhone, but that's great news. I would eventually like to have all of my music, podcasts, educational seminars on my phone with me without running into my carrier's bandwidth caps. One more step in doubling flash memory might not be that innovative, but it goes one more step to solving problems I'm having with storage.

    Now, you'll just have to carry a car battery with you to keep it running all day!!

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    4   8:33am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Good post, esp. the fact that Apple is completely missing out on the car and appliance market which RIMM is trying to repopulate, Thought RIMM was done, but it's getting interesting again. But I hope Apple will keep making money because if they tank eventually we will have to bail them out because we cannot afford an entire nation of boomers riverboating and gambling in the market to lose their retirement - but, but my stockbroker said it can only go up!!

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    5   8:51am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    I have an HTC phone right now, battery life is not as good as my old flip phone which I use a lot more these days.

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    6   8:57am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (2)  

    I have a Samsung Galaxy S3...
    Never have drained the battery in one day despite heavy usage...
    Usually have half charge left when I start charging at night

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    7   9:00am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    robertoaribas says

    apple products seem to have legendary battery life, compared to their competitors.

    I agree with that but I doubt it will help them much going forward.

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    8   9:38am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    I can get a full day of heavy usage out of my extended droid battery.
    Though it does make my phone weigh my pants down to the point, I'm often mistaken for a hipster. Though my thick frame Erne from three Sons Ray Ban glasses could be completing the ensemble.

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    9   9:59am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    Only for the uninformed, or lazy person.
    Simply turning off 3/4G, bluetooth/wifi/screen brightness when not in use will allow most phones to last a full day without draining the battery.
    If you put yourself in the habit of doing this, you will forget about battery life issues....
    Key to implementation is to have a widget on the main screen to quickly accomplish this task. Otherwise if you have to surf through many menus, you will not do it....

    SFace says

    It is a challenge to not drain the battery in one day.

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    10   10:01am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    Also widget to turn off screen when you put phone away. All screens eventually time out and shut off, but that's maybe 30 extra seconds per phone use of battery screen drainage that you save doing this....

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    robertoaribas says

    Call it Crazy says

    Now, you'll just have to carry a car battery with you to keep it running all day!!

    bullcrap, apple products seem to have legendary battery life, compared to their competitors. A replaceable battery would be an improvement, true, but try using an HTC phone heavily all day... you'll be on your charger in 5 hours.

    Legendary.... Right!! You think being able to get through ONE day without recharging is great.... You need serious help!!

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    12   10:59am Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    I have 550 albums on my phone...
    I listen to EXACTLY what I want.
    Only idiots listen to what pandora decides to serve up....

    "use the GPS"?? Unless you are driving all day long, and are so dumb as to not know where the hell you are, this can be disabled for 98% of the day....

    "watch videos"....well, i watch my videos in 3D on a 70" high def TV...if u like watching shit on a tiny screen...well there's not much to say about your viewing standards...

    "email stream and facebook updating"...so when you pull the phone out, just press your widget to activate 3/4G and the sons of bitches will update!! WTF???

    robertoaribas says

    SoftShell says

    Only for the uninformed, or lazy person.

    Simply turning off 3/4G, bluetooth/wifi/screen brightness when not in use will allow most phones to last a full day without draining the battery.

    oh so the phone works, as long as I'm not using it? great!!!! Hey I could turn it off too and it would last a real long time!!!

    Nope, I want to stream pandora to my headphones, use the gps, and watch videos all day long. Meanwhile I want my facebook stream and emails auto updating...

    My Ipad will handle this for literally hours, but my mytouch... not so much!

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    13   6:05pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike   Protected  

    When my iPad refused to let me control the volume during a commercial on Pandora, the spell was broken: http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1220062

    I don't plan on ever buying anything else again from Apple.

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    14   7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    Ipad is way too heavy compared to any phone on the market...
    Android is the wave of the future.
    Get on the train, or get out of the way!

    robertoaribas says

    nevertheless, it isn't a problem. I just plug it in my car, or my office. However the damn ipad will run for days and days without being plugged in, and I watch movies on it all the time with amazon prime or netflix.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    Apple just announced 128gig iphone.

    not the iphone that is innovative.. nor is the 128g iphone..

    but the whole 128 gig nand memory market is very innovative..
    The Koreans and Japanese GET IT... but we dont make nand
    like the Korean and Japanese have so dominated the market.

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    taketheplunge says

    I didn't realize Apple was launching an 128GB iPhone, but that's great news. I would eventually like to have all of my music, podcasts, educational seminars on my phone with me without running into my carrier's bandwidth caps. One more step in doubling flash memory might not be that innovative, but it goes one more step to solving problems I'm having with storage.

    You are only having storage issues because you have an iphone. I just popped a 64 GB micro SDXC in my android phone. When I upgrade my android phone, I will pop out this card and put it in the new device.

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    robertoaribas says

    bullcrap, apple products seem to have legendary battery life, compared to
    their competitors. A replaceable battery would be an improvement, true, but try
    using an HTC phone heavily all day... you'll be on your charger in 5 hours.

    But unlike apple you can have a spare battery for your HTC device........

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    18   1:07pm Wed 30 Jan 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    CaptainShuddup says

    Apple just announced 128gig iphone.

    It's the iPad, not the iPhone.

    I think you miss the point. They make a ton of margin. Adding this model costs them almost nothing and gains them revenue. It is however a minor addition heralded only by a Press Release, and seems irrelevant as a SIGN of anything.

    If they'd had a 128gig iPad Mini, I would have bought one. I carry a ton of media around in the thing and love it. The 64gig version I have, will have to do for a few years.

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    Apple is missing the boat.
    I read in comments in yet another CNN "All Hail Apple" article, someone commented "now all we need is a file system."
    Which then trying to make the PC obsolete would be a moot point, as then the Tablet would essentially be a PC, at that point. It would be a PC with touch screen for IO instead of mouse or keyboard, which by then I'm sure they will have Bluetooth connectivity for a mouse like they have for the KB already. Then what would essentially be?

    Where as the hand held computing devices aren't poised to replace the PC at all. But the smart PadOS makers should be looking for ways to get their OS in every device and appliance that man uses ever day. As these devices will be life's remote control more than the PC replacement.
    I'm waiting for them to realize that one of the best applications of handheld devices could be to remote desktop into your PC at work or home to do tasks that they can only do on their PC. So I see these as a PC companion, among other things, and not the PC replacement.
    And if Apple continues down this path, they will go the way of Packard Bell.

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    CaptainShuddup says

    So I see these as a PC companion, among other things, and not the PC replacement.

    Different tools.

    What you are missing, is that lots of people have more interest in CONSUMING information not doing complex manipulation. Even those of us who work in computer science, when I'm not working I want things as simple as possible. Remote control simple. Apple mastered that, Microsoft never did. For some people the only interactions they have are simple and easily handled by an appliance device. My parents for example I used to have a ThinkNIC device to give them a SIMPLE bulletproof computer. Do you need a full computer to check prescriptions or MediCare website or send a few emails? Nope. Replaced the ThinkNIC when it died with my old 1st-gen iPad. There are some people who will NEVER own a desktop computer but will have a smartphone or tablet. Hard to believe but true.

    The laptop/desktop will not die. However say in 2004 you wanted to do some trivial interaction like transfer money between 2 bank accounts to avoid overdraft. You might have whipped out the laptop you packed around everywhere. Did you need a laptop for that job? No, but it was the "least" tech you could carry around that would easily accomplish those tasks. Now you no longer carry that laptop everywhere, you carry a smaller device that is handier. I do expect laptop/desktop to decrease in numbers. They last longer than they used to and frankly we've hit a point of diminishing returns for "faster/better" in terms of next year's model. The desktop I'm using I put together in 2006 and will probably use it until 2016!

    I doubt you've listened to anything I say Captain, but I had to try.

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    I read everything you have to say Vince.
    And I agree with everything you said, especially the "The laptop/desktop will not die. " part. But I do agree that their numbers will diminish, and you are right, Moores law seems to have plateaued, and the interest in defeating Moores law has diminished with it.
    It will be interesting to see how the PC market plays out in the future.
    Since critical mass wont be a price point factor, we could very well see the return of $3000 entry level PCs and laptops. That the few PC holdouts will have no choice but to carry that burden, as the Facebook users wont be sharing the load of volume production setting a low price point.

    I also see Android OS or some flavor there of, being a standard fixture in any appliance or electronic device that needs a control panel. But I also see Android splitting from Google and becoming their entity.

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    Sounds a lot like that Black Mirror episode:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=buhQ_864GoI

    Check it out. Also, a nice glimpse of Kevin's ideal future.

    Patrick says

    When my iPad refused to let me control the volume during a commercial on Pandora, the spell was broken: http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1220062

    I don't plan on ever buying anything else again from Apple.

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    JodyChunder says

    Sounds a lot like that Black Mirror episode:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=buhQ_864GoI

    Wow, creepy. The Apple future that awaits.

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    24   8:06pm Fri 1 Feb 2013   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Hey I thought Intel 'missed the boat'? Haha... People calling me crazy for doubling down when INTC Dipped below $20 .. I'll collect that 4.5% dividend and wait till they put these chips in everything. VIVA x86!!

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    Patrick says

    When my iPad refused to let me control the volume during a commercial on Pandora, the spell was broken: http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1220062

    I don't plan on ever buying anything else again from Apple.

    Shouldn't you be complaining about Pandora rather than Apple?

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    Bigsby says

    Shouldn't you be complaining about Pandora rather than Apple?

    Nope. It's Apple's fault that they exposed an API that lets sleazy companies like Pandora control the volume.

    If you bought a car that would sometimes disable the steering and gas and instead automatically drive you to McDonalds, wouldn't that be a shitty car to own? What would you think of that car maker?

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    I don't know...
    why don't you check your phone bill...they itemize each phone number separately....

    KarlRoveIsScum says

    SoftShell says

    I have a Samsung Galaxy S3...

    Which phone does Ruki and Shrek use?

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    So my wife has been rocking a low-end Android device for the last 2 years. She hates it because it is slow and somewhat buggy, and she has been about to pull the trigger on an iPhone for a few months. Well, she decided a few days ago that she is getting a Samsung Galaxy instead, despite the reported lower battery life and bugs that it probably has because it runs Android.

    Why? Her sister, a HUGE iPhone/iMac junkie, just lost all of her photos and music because iTunes had an error and nuked all of the data on her iPhone 5 before it could get it onto the iCloud or whatever. She can probably recover the music since she paid for it, but the photos appear to be gone. My wife has never really liked iTunes (she stopped using the iPod Touch that she got as a gift because of iTunes) and this sealed the deal. The fact that the Samsung uses removable storage that requires no proprietary anything to interact with is a big selling point now, and she has never really been super tech savvy. I mean, she is a PC/Windows user and she works in high tech sales, so she is far from computer-illiterate, but I never thought that I would see the day where she made a consumer electronics purchase based on actual hardware specs. If Apple can alienate her, it's on its way down as far as I am concerned.

    For the record, my wife is Cantonese (from HK), so people that buy into the "Asian girls love iPhones" stereotype should be extra shocked. lol

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    bmwman91 says

    For the record, my wife is Cantonese (from HK), so people that buy into the "Asian girls love iPhones" stereotype should be extra shocked. lol

    My ex-wife had a Macaw that could say "cocksucker" in Cantonese.

    ...btw - interesting assessment of Apple.

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    I am willing to give Windows 8 a try next time.

    Android is not responsive enough for me. But then perhaps Jelly Bean will solve this problem.

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    robertoaribas says

    or you could use the mute button...

    No you CANNOT!

    I am saying that Apple disabled that possibility.

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    'sup Kauw HAI ......
    u still dating that gau si gwai???

    KarlRoveIsScum says

    'sup PigBoy GASBAG SOFTRUKI!

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    robertoaribas says

    bullcrap, apple products seem to have legendary battery life, compared to their competitors.

    Ive had a galaxy nexus and a nexus 4 that proves you wrong. And its unlocked. And it works with prepaids like Straight Talk which leads to unlim talk text data for $45 a mo.

    And you walk around with a siri thats a joke, a locked phone, a contract, pay for data, and a jailed OS that prevents you from doing anything that the rats at apple dont want.

    And defending apple after than maps fiasco, man , thats as sharp as a bowling ball.

    One button interface, lol.

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    bmwman91 says

    Her sister, a HUGE iPhone/iMac junkie, just lost all of her photos and music because iTunes had an error and nuked all of the data on her iPhone 5 before it could get it onto the iCloud or whatever.

    Forgive me, but I find this unlikely. There's a lot of "or whatever" in that explanation that makes me thing it's user error and not a software issue. Like perhaps user hits "restore" button in iTunes and ignores the warnings about it's reflashing phone to factory defaults and then blames it on the software. iTunes normally keeps a copy of the complete phone contents IF it is configured to do so. If the phone is configured instead to keep contents on iCloud, then it does so by WiFi when it's charging and this is an operation independent of the operation of iTunes.

    There is legit room for confusion here, but it's the sort of mixup you could have with any platform. Example First Lady's iPhone backs up data to iCloud also. Got a new phone to replace old one, starting restore from last backup, didn't pay attention to that full backup being from SEPTEMBER! So when it loaded, contacts and such seemed OK but hey there's hundreds of photos missing! However once iCloud synched up the photos appeared it just took a little while coming down over U-Verse.

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    Vicente says

    There is legit room for confusion here, but it's the sort of mixup you could have with any platform.

    This is the main point. Apple is, to an increasing number of people, starting to look like a more expensive version of "everything else." I have no doubt that it was a user-induced error. One of Apple's big things is "it just works" and it has many users trained to operate like that. I guarantee that if her sister was doing (whatever) she was doing on an Android phone, she would be more careful about it because she wouldn't want to accidentally delete her stuff. With the Apple phone, she just figures "it works." Not quite.

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    SFace says

    13mp camera

    This really irks me. Even in pocket digital cameras, anything over 6MP is effectively useless because the CMOS sensors in those are so small that your SNR (signal to noise ratio) of incoming light to sensor noise swamps out any benefit from more pixels in the same surface area. Megapixels are just marketing mumbo-jumbo outside of digital SLRs that have 4x - 20x the sensor surface area for gathering light than even the best pocket camera (the Sony ones with APS sensors are not really "pocket" sized).

    Then you get to the phone space, where the sensor has 10%, at best, of the surface area of a cheap pocket digital camera. Software noise reduction can only do so much to try to make up for the physical limitations of the camera hardware.

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    Sface sums up what I"ve been saying all along.
    It will be interesting to see what role Umbutu plays in all of this.
    I would like to think it will open source, and will be embraced by more DIY'er novice, than Linux got on the PC box.

    I have to wonder what will become of Android it seems like money loser for Google's bottom line in the long run. Not now, but in the future, I see Google breaking off Android into their own entity, when their stock prices start faltering.

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    I doubt that Ubuntu would ever get put onto production hand-held devices. Linux is already on them (Android, iOS). There are many Linux distro's, and its great power is its ability to be tailored for any application. Ubuntu is really an attempt to woo Windows users in the PC space. I don't see it having a place on mobile devices smaller than a tablet. They could strip it down and change the UI, but they would call it something else and it would probably be fairly different, structurally, so it wouldn't be Ubuntu anymore!

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    bmwman91 says

    I doubt that Ubuntu would ever get put onto production hand-held devices.

    http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone

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