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Why police lie under oath


By tovarichpeter   Follow   Sat, 2 Feb 2013, 12:42pm PST   546 views   9 comments
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?hp&_r=0

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Dan8267   Sat, 2 Feb 2013, 1:00pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 1

Police lie because they believe the ends justify the means. That's the exact same reason most state evil occurs including the Holocaust, torture, rape as punish, and slavery. The ends always justify the means.

Of course, the police use lies against innocent people too. No human has 100% accuracy in judging the guilt of another person. Police, trained to suspect everyone, are far more likely to think an innocent person is guilty. And since there is no punish for the police when they are wrong, there is no incentive to correct this behavior.

I would never trust the police or any professional, career witness in a trial. If you are groomed and compensated for giving testimony, your testimony is worthless.

Furthermore, no cop is ever prosecuted for perjury because the court systems and the judges need the police. As a result, court systems will always tolerate, and even encourage, police corruption.

Dan8267   Sat, 2 Feb 2013, 1:04pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 2

“our primary job is not to help anybody, our primary job is not to assist anybody, our primary job is to get those numbers and come back with them.” He continued: “At the end of the night you have to come back with something. You have to write somebody, you have to arrest somebody, even if the crime is not committed, the number’s there. So our choice is to come up with the number.”

That is the kind of evil that should never be tolerated, even once, in a just society. Where are all those gun-totting militias again?

New Renter   Sat, 2 Feb 2013, 1:18pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 3

Dan8267 says

“our primary job is not to help anybody, our primary job is not to assist anybody, our primary job is to get those numbers and come back with them.” He continued: “At the end of the night you have to come back with something. You have to write somebody, you have to arrest somebody, even if the crime is not committed, the number’s there. So our choice is to come up with the number.”

That is the kind of evil that should never be tolerated, even once, in a just society. Where are all those gun-totting militias again?

They're over here:
http://www.patrick.net/?p=1221446

elliemae   Sat, 2 Feb 2013, 1:22pm PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 4

Officers lie because they buy into the hype - that they are above the law. They don't have the follow the same rules as the rest of us do.

CaptainShuddup   Sun, 3 Feb 2013, 5:20am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 5

Isn't the the whole point of a trail? So the guilty can lie under oath.

elliemae   Mon, 4 Feb 2013, 3:43am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 6

CaptainShuddup says

Isn't the the whole point of a trail? So the guilty can lie under oath.

Yes. Thanks for asking.

I was in an accident where an idiot pulled in front of me, out of the HOV lane into the fast lane in heavy traffic, then stopped. He admitted guilt at the time, but later said it wasn't his fault. Even though he was the only one ticketed, the hearing master said I was also at fault.

The little mormon returned missionary piece of shit lied. His statement included the words "as a returned missionary, I don't lie."

yea.

CaptainShuddup   Mon, 4 Feb 2013, 4:27am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 7

CaptainShuddup says

Isn't the the whole point of a trail? So the guilty can lie under oath.

Trial not Trail, sorry if I sent anyone down the wrong path!

gbenson   Mon, 4 Feb 2013, 5:17am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike     Comment 8

I had a traffic cop swear that he took the radar gun out of the car and with him every time he exited the car, (lunch, bathroom). He knew I was angling at going after calibration and the owners manual specifically stated not to leave it in a hot vehicle or the calibration could go out of whack. So he just flat out lied.

I ended up getting him another way and got out of the ticket, but still it irked the crap out of me that he would sit there and say that and the judge didn't even bat an eye.

CaptainShuddup   Mon, 4 Feb 2013, 5:40am PST   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

Well I'm sure he needs his Radar gun when he goes to the head, so he could do mirror poses, of whipping it out and drawing down on an unsuspecting motorist.

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