Am I the only one who grows tired of this guy and his raging misinformed, yet egocentric and disingenuous posts? I'm no longer going to reply or even look at his threads. I posted a response to his post today and got this email message. Apparently he deletes posts that prove him wrong. Maybe it's time to step up to premium membership and support our buddy Patrick.
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I'm hardly surprised that 1.2 million sheeple signed this. People like that are quick to give up rights for imagined safety.
Ben Franklin has a pretty famous quote about this: "Any people who are willing to trade a little freedom for a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
Are you saying these 1.2 million media slaves are smarter than Ben Franklin?
This is the trouble with kids today: all action and no wisdom.
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First and foremost, I find it strange that anyone would feel the need to operate under so many different names. Is this simply his way around the "ignore" feature? Perhaps there is some pathology here... Poster's Schizophrenia, maybe? Although, with each alias, the same personality comes through... So, I'm putting my money on the first option, avoiding the "ignore" feature.
Another thing I find particularly annoying regarding Karl and his aliases is how he posts several short answers, one after the other. It's like he's trying to keep the post at the top of the topics list. By turning one reply into 10, he ensures that the topic stays "hot."
His abusive responses are nothing short of bullying. Even if he has a valid argument... that argument is often lost amidst personal attacks and foul language. I find him tedious, which is too bad, because I don't always disagree with the core of his arguments. However, his bullying tactics are in stark contrast to many of the positions he holds, making it difficult to take the argument seriously.
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turtledove says
Exactly!!
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That's because all those "voices" in his head keep talking to him, so he posts responses to them...
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Yes, you champion the left side of the argument, and honestly that is fine with me. We need a balance of opinions and perspectives to maintain open discourse. What I and the others on this site object to are your attempts to silence any opposing viewpoints on whatever subject you're currently the self appointed champion. When you do this, you're saying that yours is the only opinion that matters and if you have the power you would be as bad as old Uncle Josef in silencing all dissent. So we don't like you. You're one of those "ends justify the means" political animals who value ideas more than people. At the core, I believe this stems from selfishness: the root of all evil.
Turtledove posted that she may agree with your stance on an issue, but since your tactics make you a bully, she can't support you or what you're trying to do. Why don't you read up on some history, say all about the tactics of the Soviet NKVD. Then again, you'd probably dig their methods and take them for your own on your holy crusade for all things the left media had told you are good and proper.
The right-wing media is just as bad. This is why I said that you are a media slave. You slavishly believe whatever your masters blast out of the idiot box. It's mostly lies and propaganda these days, and it's funny when the media tips its hand like with that doctored video of "NRA activists shout down a grieving father." It's just lies and selectively edited truth. If you believe it all, you're just another fish on their hook.
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KarlRoveIsScum says
Of course you do.
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We should not.
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No one is asking you to sit idly by. There are many others who challenge, but they do so without immediately devolving to boorish rants almost entirely filled with insults.
Continuous insults and bullying does not convince anyone that you are correct. It just makes you seem irrational and unreasonable.
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Sure you get plenty of insults hurled your way, but I think that you may be a net exporter of insults.
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KarlRoveIsScum says
I don't understand. What does Patrick have to do with your use of aliases? How is Patrick more qualified than you to answer why you operate under multiple screen names?
Are you Patrick? (Eerie music playing in background).
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turtledove says
That would be quite a plot twist!
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KarlRoveIsScum says
I disagree, I'd rather have the people that you label racists, bigots and others respecting the constitution and the rule of law amongst myself than people who are not classified as such but think they can trample all over the constitution and define what speech or point of views is tolerated and what is not and think the way people feel or think about something should be enforced by the mob and unconstitutional laws. You have the freedom of association who you surround yourself with, no need to terrorize people you don't like.
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The Professor says
HAHAHA i thought you said "what would be the fun in that?"
btw, CarlRoveIsCcum has no other aliases at this site, according to patrick's super complex algorithm. what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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let me get this straight, all you people ignoring KarlRoveIsScum are talking about him/her? Someone's got a crush!
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Unfortunately, he has admitted to being 121212, Thedaytoday and PoliticoFact. I don't know why Patrick's super algorithm isn't picking up his IP like the other screen names...
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Mark D says
It's pretty obvious that it's all the same person. He just knows how to use https://www.anonymizer.com/ and other similiar type of things.
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Style of writing tells all.
It's relative easy to defeat the IP Address checker installed here which detects aliases..
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Although I would actually defend Politicofact's right to use multiple aliases. As long as he does not camouflage his IP address so all can be recognized as coming from one person on this site.
Depending on the subject matter, and mood of the poster, multiple aliases can be a plus!
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in fact, I'm musing over re-inventing a "King Crab" version of myself....
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One of his multiple personalities, claimed he was a Lawyer.
I'd hate to have him defending me in a court of law.
He's snap and go off on the prosecution and have me thrown under the hoscow.
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I'm ignoring the scumster. I deal with mental illness during the day so it would be like going to work if I were to play with him.
I do suspect that he is the poster who "dislikes" my every post, which is extremely childish. But if his comments are reflective of his level of emotional maturity, his propensity to hit "dislike" is his method of striking out when he has nothing to contribute.
Each time he reinvents himself (which seems to happen as often as he changes his underwear - monthly), I have to re-ignore him. Sometimes I play - and I know that I shouldn't, but it's like a train wreck where you cannot look away - but "ignore" is a lot easier.
But I'd rather sit at the grown-up table, where the discussions are reciprocal and people know how to spell.
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I know many of you have Karl on "ignore," but if you were able to see his responses to these criticisms, I think you would find that he's handled them with surprising grace.
Karl.... Stay away from the dark side!
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Dude you make ME look a senior editor at Random House.
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Implement the use of the 'comma', and you got the job!
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I get surprised by the amount of deletions that go on here. Its scary to think people want to streamline edit reality so what they say and what they present seems completely free from censure.
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Has Karl been nuked?
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I blocked him this weekend. Couldn't do it anymore.
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donjumpsuit says
Can't say I'll miss his hysterics. Still now he'll have more time to take his meds.
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turtledove says
You must have missed his responses to me. Not gracious at all, in fact I'd characterize them as childish tantrums.
He REALLY didn't care to be presented with facts, especially when they were so easy to find and directly undermined his hysterical rants.
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Personally, I came to this site for Patrick and folks opinions about the Real Estate Market.
Sans RobetoAribas (also ignored) who seems to feel like Phoenix is the center of the universe, I feel the discourse about Real Estate is fun, informative, and interesting.
I don't mind a opinionated views on GMO's and opening the occasional discussion about the specifics, but I work in that field as a Scientist. (like elliemae works in the crazy people field)
I don't really need to open this site on a Sunday Morning and find 4 (FOUR) replicate threads on the deadly dangers of GMO's and how they are ruining the world. The same threads that pop up every day for the past 3 weeks.
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Scum has deleted several posts of mine for no other reason than he didn't agree with the point of view expressed in them. In general I think he has delusions of grandeur mixed with limited communication skills.
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There are moments when this guy covers the index page. How's an artist like moi to cope?
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APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
Some say, if you can't beat um, join um!
But I wouldn't parse my lips in his direction to acknowledge him if I was bit and turned from the bite of a crazed neo-nazi, and his was the last scrap of edible subhuman flesh on this planet to feed my ravenous hunger.
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The same day Margret Thatcher dies, KarlRoveIsScum gets nuked.
Coincidence? I think not!
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dublin hillz says
More like delusions of adequacy.
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I also came to PatNet to hear opinions on the RE market. I am also a scientist and enjoy a spirited but informed debate. Its a great learning opportunity. I cannot however abide hysterical silliness when it comes to such an important topic as the safety of our food supply. Scaring people without just cause is dangerous. For a person who was so vocally opposed to Karl Rove and his modus operandi KRIS certainly emulated his master.
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APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
Oh you do just fine on your own.
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The fact that you have 6 likes on this thread already shows the answer is a resounding no.
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leo707 says
Perfectly summed up.
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Call it Crazy says
Which usernames?
I recently looked at the aliases for the KarlRoveIsScum account and found none. Now the account has been deleted.
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CaptainShuddup says
On the other hand, the conviction could be overturned due to his incompetence.
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Yep, that would do it.
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CaptainShuddup says
Are you saying that Karl was Thatcher? The cross-dressing wouldn't surprise me, but Thatcher was articulated no matter what you think of her politics.
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donjumpsuit says
I will never ignore Roberto!
AF, Iwog, and Roberto are among the smartest people posting on this site. They are very entertaining. When focused, their intellect is faster than a hot knife through butter.
Roberto is prone to temper tantrums and he seems to think he is smarter than EVERYONE but I think he is just insecure.
Try not to argue with or contradict him when he wont listen anyway, skim through the reiterations of his financial conquests in phoenix, and you will find kernels of wisdom.
AF, on the other hand, spouts wisdom almost everytime he writes.
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I get what you're saying, however, I have a HUGE side of me that thinks everyone has a reasonable conversable side to them, when that's not actually the truth.
I can sit here and admit when my arguments have more emotion than facts in them, I can also see other sides, and be surprised by viewpoints and facts they bring to the table, especially after I vet the sources and support the documents.
However I am troll bait through and through. I typically don't stand for unjust arguments and get my feathers ruffled. It's best I don't hear them because I enjoy 95% of the other conversations on this site, I don't want to muck it up with my back and forths.
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I put him on ignore a while ago, or wouldn't be able to tolerate PATNET. Reminded me of the crazy, shouting lunatics on Berkeley street corners that would never shut up. When the loudest screamer wins, everybody loses.