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No left wing terror deaths in the USA in 30+ years.


By thunderlips11   Follow   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 5:03am PDT   1,366 views   45 comments   Watch (1)   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

Sixties radicals may grow old, but they never seem to go out of style. In a trailer for Robert Redford’s recently released film, The Company You Keep, we are informed: “In 1969, a group of radical anti-war protesors began a campaign of bombings on American soil.” Redford plays a former terrorist, still in hiding “30 years after the notorious bank robbery that claimed the life of a guard.”

Never mind that the actual Weathermen didn’t go in much for bank robberies and avoided killing anyone during their bombing campaign. Several ex-Weathermen were involved in the horrifically bungled Brink’s armored car robbery at Rockland County, NY’s Nanuet Mall. Carried out by the remnants of the Black Liberation Army (a hyper-violent fragment of the Black Panther Party) and a few ex-members of the Weather Underground, the crime left two police officers and a security guard dead. The attempted robbery, which ended in the arrest or death of all involved, took place on Oct. 20, 1981.There have been no deaths linked to American left-wing extremism since.

The last time a left-wing extremist killed somebody was 30+ years ago, when Rick James released "Superfreak" and Mork and Mindy was being produced on TV.

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But the specter of left-wing terrorism continues to hold a powerful sway over the American imagination. A policeman in George V. Higgin’s novel Outlaws describes a cadre of lefty terrorists as “Longhairs that got bored with protesting the war and branched out,” a description that sums up the general feeling about everyone from the Weather Underground to the Symbionese Liberation Army. The closest modern-day equivalent is the Earth Liberation Front, whose periodic fire bombings target property and have caused no deaths. (ELF is getting a hip cinematic touchup in the form of the new indie thriller The East: “We will counterattack three corporations for their worldwide terrorism in the next six months,” Ellen Page murmurs, as a swirling montage of images implies that her radical environmentalist clique’s tactics will quickly, violently and stylishly spin out of control.)

But today there is no equivalent threat from left-wing extremists. Small bands of masked protestors periodically indulge in a bout of window smashing or throw rocks at the police, but bombings, bank robberies and gunfights with law enforcement are the province of fringe right-wing extremist groups. “Unlike the 1960s and 1970s, there are few, true left-wing extremist organizations operating in the United States,” Daryl Johnson notes in Right-Wing Resurgence: How A Domestic Terrorism Threat Is Being Ignored. Johnson is an expert on domestic non-Islamic extremism and a former senior analyst with the Department of Homeland Security, although his unit was dismantled in the wake of conservative outrage over its report on right-wing extremism in the United States. In January 2009, Johnson’s team warned of increased cyber attacks, which “are attractive options to leftwing extremists who view attacks on economic targets as aligning with their nonviolent, ‘no-harm’ doctrine.”

“I stand by the statement that the left-wing terrorist groups were active in the 1970s and early '80s and we’ve seen a shift to more right-wing extremism,” Johnson says. “We do have left-wing extremists who are active and they do property destruction and commit acts of arson; there have been occasional incidents where a police officer will get injured…but the vast majority of these things are property destruction. They just don’t have the body count.”

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But no American left-wing radical group has resorted to the kind of murderous plot found in the works of Tom Clancy and Michael Crichton, popular authors who cast environmentalist and anarchist groups as brutal villains.

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As Daryl Johnson testified before the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution, right-wing extremist have killed 16 police officers and 20 other Americans between 2006 and 2012. (That’s a higher toll than the collective murders of all the American leftist terrorists of the 1970s combined.) Many women’s health clinics, African-American churches and mosques have been attacked in the same period. Just last week a man believed to be a member of a white supremacist gang murdered the chief of the Colorado Department of Corrections in his home.

But aside from the movie American History X, right-wing terrorists don’t have the same hold on the popular imagination (maybe corrupted idealism is more interesting than pure hate). As Benjamin Kunkel wrote in a 2005 essay, “The terrorist novel has dealt mostly with…the gun-happy dregs of the domestic New Left, who for all their snarling communiques killed only a handful of people, and that 20 and 30 years ago.” (See: Philip Roth’s American Pastoral.)


http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/whatever-happened-left-wing-domestic-terrorism?page=0%2C2

Compare the plots and deaths from lefties to those from the right:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

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finehoe   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 7:25am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 6

thomaswong.1986 says

they all failed not only in the USA... they failed globally in all nations.

Yet 21st century "conservatives" such as yourself are obsessed with the likes of has-beens such as Bill Ayers. Why is that?

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 7:29am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (2)     Comment 7

thunderlips11 says

Seems to me leftists seldom target the mass of the population they're trying to recruit for the "social revolution". Killing people tends to turn them off against joining your revolution.

And that is why they failed.. from Northern and Southern America across Europe and into Asia.
In every nation across many cultures they lost public support and were seen as murders thugs and criminals.

thunderlips11 says

Whereas righties see the general public as heretics, backsliders, brainwashed sheeple, or just plain unrepentant sinners, so have no trouble killing "innocents", whom they don't regard as truly "innocent".

Only a screwed up Lefty would think that.... eventually you will grow up.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 7:49am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 8

finehoe says

Yet 21st century "conservatives" such as yourself are obsessed with the likes of has-beens such as Bill Ayers. Why is that?

obsession ? LOL na ! thats a perfume ! Media's glamorization with Bill Avers is an irony. As is the hypocrisy with Chris Matthews. To call the so called anti-war period and the bombing by the WU as an 'exciting time' and different from KKK bombings in the south. Both are evil both need to be stopped and punished. And while you would give a break to the unrepentant Bill Avers, I like many would not.. neither to WU or the KKK. Both are evil and un-American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g52V04jUYVc#at=171

But do continue with the Big Right Wing Conspiracy nonsense..many are still waiting on the racist Tea Party to show up. Seen any lately ?

thunderlips11   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 7:59am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 9

finehoe says

Yet 21st century "conservatives" such as yourself are obsessed with the likes of has-beens such as Bill Ayers. Why is that?

Because they have to assign all the troubles to their boogeymen.

thomaswong.1986 says

Only a screwed up Lefty would think that.... eventually you will grow up.

J. Salvi
T. McVeigh
M. Atta
J.C. Kopp
P.J. Hill
J.D. Adkinsson

More more, including ones busted before they could hatch, here:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 8:02am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 10

thunderlips11 says

thomaswong.1986 says

Only a screwed up Lefty would think that.... eventually you will grow up.

J. Salvi

T. McVeigh

M. Atta

J.C. Kopp

P.J. Hill

J.D. Adkinsson

More more, including ones busted before they could hatch, here:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Hell, conservatives have no problem with "guilt by accusation" and saying everyone in Gitmo and other torture centers must be guilty or else the government wouldn't have kidnapped them.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 8:26am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (3)     Comment 11

Dan8267 says

J. Salvi


T. McVeigh


M. Atta


J.C. Kopp


P.J. Hill


J.D. Adkinsson

More more, including ones busted before they could hatch, here:


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

Prosecute them .. send them to prison, and if they walk out of prison unrepentant wishing they did more, do you give them a job in the same building they tried to demolish, a govt they tried to overthrow, allow them to work with people they tried to murder, and give them a pension to retire on. If its Bill Avery, it must be OK, it was after all "an exciting time to be in the anti-war movement.. it was glamorous.. and you were a cultural hero."

Common sense escapes you ...

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 8:30am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (4)   Dislike (1)     Comment 12

thomaswong.1986 says

Common sense escapes you ...

Your point escapes me.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 8:31am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike (2)     Comment 13

Dan8267 says

Hell, conservatives have no problem with "guilt by accusation" and saying everyone in Gitmo and other torture centers must be guilty or else the government wouldn't have kidnapped them.

When you find them in al qaeda terrorist camps.. it sure isnt an Elk Convention by mistake.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 8:32am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike (5)     Comment 14

Dan8267 says

Your point escapes me.

your far to gone to make any sense.. reality escaped you long ago.

dodgerfanjohn   befriend   ignore   Wed, 17 Apr 2013, 10:35am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike (2)     Comment 15

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

Your point escapes me.

your far to gone to make any sense.. reality escaped you long ago.

I think I've been correctly making that point as of late.

thunderlips11   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 1:53am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (4)   Dislike     Comment 16

thomaswong.1986 says

If its Bill Avery, it must be OK, it was after all "an exciting time to be in the anti-war movement.. it was glamorous.. and you were a cultural hero."

Bill Avery? I think you mean Bill Ayers.

He didn't kill anybody. Those other guys I mentioned did.

finehoe   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 2:28am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 17

thomaswong.1986 says

obsession ?

Well, a search of your Pat.net postings results in four pages of hits mentioning him going back to 2009. Seems like an obsession to me.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 2:43am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike (1)     Comment 18

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

Hell, conservatives have no problem with "guilt by accusation" and saying everyone in Gitmo and other torture centers must be guilty or else the government wouldn't have kidnapped them.

When you find them in al qaeda terrorist camps.. it sure isnt an Elk Convention by mistake.

You are so fucking ignorant it's disgusting. For once in your miserable, pathetic life read something and become educated about a subject matter first.

CIA agents tortured a German citizen, sodomising, shackling, and beating him, as Macedonian state police looked on, the European court of human rights said in a historic judgment released on Thursday.

In a unanimous ruling, it also found Macedonia guilty of torturing, abusing, and secretly imprisoning Khaled el-Masri, a German of Lebanese origin allegedly linked to terrorist organisations.

Masri was released in April 2004. He was taken, blindfolded and handcuffed, by plane to Albania and subsequently to Germany, after the CIA admited he was wrongly detained.

Oh shit, I guess that just doesn't matter to you though. At least not until it happens to you or one of your family.

leo707   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 5:18am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 19

IDDQD says

Chris Dorner was a leftist according to his manifesto.

You must have missed this part of his manifesto:
"I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party."

Anyway, Dorner was a moderate politically and his attacks were not motivated by politics.

chemechie   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 7:34am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

You can blame any ideology based on how you cherry pick your data - for instance, see the attached photo currently circulated on some conservative sites:

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 9:42am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 21

thunderlips11 says

Bill Avery? I think you mean Bill Ayers.

He didn't kill anybody. Those other guys I mentioned did.

Osama Bin Laden didnt kill anybody.. those other guys did.

The mafia bosses didnt commit any crimes.. those other guys did.

yes... guilt by association !

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 9:45am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 22

Dan8267 says

Oh shit, I guess that just doesn't matter to you though. At least not until it happens to you or one of your family.

cry me a river ! so what ! in a sea of 1000 captured terrorists.. you want everyone to go free on account of what ?

leo707   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 9:49am PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike (1)     Comment 23

chemechie says

You can blame any ideology based on how you cherry pick your data

Um--exactly...or you can just make up lies, put them in a graphic and distribute it on the internet as "proof."

With very little effort I can see several problems with your graphic:
- Only two of the people on the list were perhaps motivated by any strong religious or political ideology: Nidal Hasan, and Wade Michael Page. Regardless of any alleged party registration they both were right-wingers Hasan an extreme Islamist, and Page was an active white supremacist.

-Dorner was not an Obama "supporter", he was a moderate republican (funny the graphic does not mention his party affiliation). A supporter of Jon Huntsman, Dorner did not vote for Obama. It says it right there in his manifesto. Also, Dorner was not motivated by any political ideology.

-Harris and Klebold -- while not motivated by an ideology -- were documented admirers of the nazi movement. You know that right-wing organization that instigated some trouble in Europe a while back.

-The others were not motivated by any political agenda, but by severe mental illness.

The question is why would someone feel the need to fake up a list trying to attribute mass killings to "liberal" Democrat ideology and even go to the extreme of putting clear right-wingers (or even a moderate republican) on that list?

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 9:51am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

thomaswong.1986 says

Dan8267 says

Oh shit, I guess that just doesn't matter to you though. At least not until it happens to you or one of your family.

cry me a river ! so what ! in a sea of 1000 captured terrorists.. you want everyone to go free on account of what ?

Your response is exactly why you and your ilk are morally bankrupt and despicable.

leo707   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 10:01am PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

chemechie says

You can blame any ideology based on how you cherry pick your data - for instance, see the attached photo currently circulated on some conservative sites:

Instead of posting some made up stuff, at least they should be making a list of liberal equivalents to Jim David Atkisson, Byron Williams, or Martin Hohenegger. You know people who picked up a gun thinking, "I hate liberals, and I am going to kill one today."

"Conservatives" today seem to be very fond of profiling Muslims because Muslims are indeed more likely to commit a terror act. We should also keep in mind that if today in the US someone is trying to kill someone else because of their political beliefs (or what they think your political beliefs are) it is most likely a conservative trying to kill a liberal. Yet, the conservatives wail and gnash their teeth at the mention that one of there "own" might be responsible. Hell, they even go to such lengths as making up bullshit graphics to try to prove otherwise. Funny how that double-standard works.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 12:01pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 26

I guess I have to start a new meme.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 12:50pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 27

Dan8267 says

Your response is exactly why you and your ilk are morally bankrupt and despicable.

Name all the Right Wing terrorist organizations you know of over the past 30 years that committed bombings and kills. Perhaps Thunderlips might help you. Along with the each incident did you hear of 100s of others associated with that group that were arrested and persecuted for these crimes as was the case with the Left radical groups.

All those Left Wing groups had names, and their members had warrants for their arrest.

So what are the Right Wing Terror groups names.. and how many of their members are being sought out for terrorist act ?

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 12:59pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

leo707 says

"Conservatives" today seem to be very fond of profiling Muslims because Muslims are indeed more likely to commit a terror act.

what are the odds of a Catholic or Jew setting off a bomb in the USA compared to someone entering the country from Middle East Libya to Pakistan ? For the past 60 plus years the middle east was it hot bed of terrorist organization from Libya to Syria to Iran,

of course we need to profile potential treats... if you try to imped our security, what more are you than a conspirator and saboteur to our national security.

I sure dont see or know of anyone group trying to kill another over political view. If you are aware of any, you need to contact the FBI. I would !

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 3:27pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 29

thomaswong.1986 says

Right Wing terrorist organizations you know of over the past 30 years that committed bombings and kills.

Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, National Guard, CIA, FBI. These are the biggest terrorists groups. They literally take pride in literally inflicting terror into others. And none of them seem to have any qualms about killing innocents including children. See Move, Waco, Kent State, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, just to name a few.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 3:32pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 30

Dan8267 says

Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, National Guard, CIA, FBI. These are the biggest terrorists groups. They literally take pride in literally inflicting terror into others. And none of them seem to have any qualms about killing innocents including children.

I expected nothing less from you, Dan.

Dan8267 says

See Move, Waco, Kent State, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, just to name a few.

Even the Vietnamese immigrants in Little Saigon (San Jose, CA) would consider you a communist nut case.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 4:08pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 31

thomaswong.1986 says

I expected nothing less from you, Dan.

Coming from someone who is okay with the following, I'll take that as a compliment.

Dan8267 says

CIA agents tortured a German citizen, sodomising, shackling, and beating him, as Macedonian state police looked on, the European court of human rights said in a historic judgment released on Thursday.

thomaswong.1986 says

cry me a river ! so what ! in a sea of 1000 captured terrorists.. you want everyone to go free on account of what ?

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Thu, 18 Apr 2013, 4:27pm PDT   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 32

Dan8267 says

Coming from someone who is okay with the following, I'll take that as a compliment.

anything from you have some salt near by.

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