233 Dennis Dr, Daly City, CA 94015


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  1. vain


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    39   12:01pm Sun 14 Aug 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    corntrollio says

    jvolstad says

    Man that is one ugly house. What's with all the concrete? I would have put in some landscaping.

    The listing calls this a feature, but I think of it as a bug just like you -- it looks awful:

    2200 sq ft of concrete to enjoy the VIEW.

    vain already pointed out that this house had trees that were removed. vain -- you also suggested that all the concrete helped salvage the lot? Can you give more detail on that?

    This lot (backyard) was downwards sloped. I estimate that the very end of the lot is ~25 feet lower than the ground where the house sits on. A foundation/concrete slab was built to try to make use of some of the land. It is now flat on ~2200 sq feet (that is what is claimed). I think the usable back yard is more like 900 sq feet or so. The seller must be confused. 2200 may be cubic feet since that's what he probably ordered to fill the slope.

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    40   11:47am Sat 3 Sep 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Looks like there is another change to the listing. This time they reduced the number of days on the market down to 88 days. It used to be about 200 days. But then they removed some of the previous listings and delistings.

    I suppose they are trying to make this house more appealing (or less pathetic) by giving the illusion it is less stagnant.

    Tricky bastards.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/233-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/1618194

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    41   12:12pm Sat 3 Sep 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    someone add a link to this post on the redfin listing? lol

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    42   9:19am Sun 4 Sep 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    As of today, 9/4/11, this house has been taken OFF THE MARKET. All the listing histories have been erased. I wonder if and when they will try to relist.

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    43   7:44pm Sun 4 Sep 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    zillow has the price history:
    http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/233-Dennis-Dr-Daly-City-CA-94015/15607074_zpid/

    08/09/2011 Price change $529,000 -3.6% $413 Realty World - Platinum
    06/27/2011 Price change $549,000 -8.5% $428 Realty World - Platinum
    05/12/2011 Price change $600,000 0.2% $468 Realty World - Platinum
    03/16/2011 Price change $599,000 -7.8% $467 Realty World - Platinum
    03/03/2011 Listed for sale $650,000 62.5% $507 Realty World - Platinum
    11/24/2010 Sold $400,000 -- $312 Public Record

    what a chump.

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    44   1:11am Sun 16 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    anonanon says

    As of today, 9/4/11, this house has been taken OFF THE MARKET. All the listing histories have been erased. I wonder if and when they will try to relist.

    Relisted today for $549k ('new' listing). Also, it is in the process of converting a 0.5 bathroom to a full bathroom (adding a shower stall).

    He's wasting more money. He may as well just reduce the price by the amount being spent on the bathroom conversion.

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    45   10:29am Sun 16 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Its back! How do you know he's converting a bathroom?

    They say bathroom expansions and remodels do not recoup the cost when reselling.

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    46   7:55pm Sun 16 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    anonanon says

    Its back! How do you know he's converting a bathroom?

    My agent shares the private MLS remarks with me :) It says so in the private MLS remarks.

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    47   11:05am Mon 17 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    bighorse says

    anonanon says

    As of today, 9/4/11, this house has been taken OFF THE MARKET. All the listing histories have been erased. I wonder if and when they will try to relist.

    Relisted today for $549k ('new' listing).

    What nasty bullshit, to pretend it was not listed to deceive some buyer about the market. Well I have some history about this house in the Patrick.net Real Estate Data, to prove how it failed to sell:

    Date Source Price
    10/16/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $549,990
    10/09/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,999
    10/02/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,999
    09/28/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,990
    09/25/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,999
    09/04/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,999
    08/28/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,999
    08/07/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,990
    08/06/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $529,990
    08/04/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $539,990
    07/31/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $545,000
    07/23/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $549,000
    07/20/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $549,000
    07/05/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $549,000
    06/19/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $579,000
    06/16/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $579,000
    06/11/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $579,000
    06/06/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $579,000
    06/05/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $599,000
    06/03/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $600,000
    05/14/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $650,000
    05/13/11 http://sfbay.craigsl... $650,000

    There is no way for them to erase these facts. And they are facts.

    Not only that, they are publicly advertised facts! To go back and try to erase publicly advertised asking prices show just how little integrity realtors actually have.

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    48   7:26pm Mon 17 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Patrick says

    Not only that, they are publicly advertised facts! To go back and try to erase publicly advertised asking prices show just how little integrity realtors actually have.

    Now wait a minute Patrick. The Realtors have their code of ethics. It's right there on the NAR website. ;-/

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    49   12:54am Tue 18 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    vain says

    Price decreased to $599k, and now has increased to $650k. Maybe there was too much interest at $599k. Commission has also increased to 4%. Any agent that can convince a buyer to take this would get paid $26k. Wow.

    Hmmm, maybe Vain is on to something here. We could call this "Occupy Patrick.net". ....

    Just do what Vain did, write the "owner" investors of hopelessly underwater SFBA properties, and challenge their sanity, with more realistic prices, which apparently goads the "owner" into listing a delusional price, causing them to never sell their property, defaulting, and taking them out of the market as investors.

    This could go along with Patricks thread on accelerating the real estate collapse.

    Nicely done Vain.

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    50   4:08pm Fri 21 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    This seller missed his chance. There was someone willing to pay $536k for a similar home.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/345-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/917706

    He might have had him if he wasn't unrealistic about his list price. You can tell he hesitated between $529k and $549k. If it was $529k, the buyer obviously should have picked 233 Dennis rather than 345 Dennis as it is more superior.

    Interesting that 345 Dennis' owner is also the listing agent, and also the selling agent.

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    51   5:05pm Fri 21 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    ^ interior of 345 is way better than 233 and it's more sqft.

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    52   12:31am Sat 22 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Hysteresis says

    ^ interior of 345 is way better than 233 and it's more sqft.

    The two homes shared the same blue print.

    Per the agent's comment on Redfin for 345:

    "Great home for entertaining - good layout and open floor plan. Views of the East Bay from the yard. One garage has been converted into a family room."

    Not so sure about the legality of it. But there's your extra square footage.

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    53   10:29pm Mon 31 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Vain may not have been so far off in what this house might sell for. I guess that comment assumes that it will sell.

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    54   10:41pm Mon 31 Oct 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    My prediction of price was long ago. Prices have declined since then. He'd be lucky if someone takes it at $420k today. The addition of a shower mentioned will add $0 in value.

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    So, what would you think it could sell for now?? I wasn't feeling moved by the shower :0)

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    56   6:40pm Tue 1 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    It may sell for $420k. But it'll be tough in a market like this. The demand for his house just isn't there. The investor did not do his homework as to what type of buyers purchase here, and what type of properties they are looking for. Unfortunately, he has picked the worse possible type of property there.

    I passed by the property on foot recently. The new metal parts outside are getting a little rusty and has cob webs already.

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    vain says

    The demand for his house just isn't there. The investor did not do his homework as to what type of buyers purchase here, and what type of properties they are looking for. Unfortunately, he has picked the worse possible type of property there.

    Say more if you can. What type of buyer is out there? Why doesn't this house fit the demand of what they are looking for? What makes it the worst type of property out there.

    Just curious to hear more.

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    58   1:03am Wed 9 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Hi everyone,

    It went down again. Now at $499k.

    Let's see, he paid $400k originally. Has to pay 6% commission to the real estate agent if he sold at $499k, which is $30k. Plus he paid for all the renovations. Think he broke even?

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    59   10:05am Wed 9 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    BAHAHAHA. I wonder if vain still has the owners contact info. I'd love to hear how the owner is doing.

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    bg says

    Say more if you can. What type of buyer is out there? Why doesn't this house fit the demand of what they are looking for? What makes it the worst type of property out there.
    Just curious to hear more.

    The buyers here are interested in expansion potential. It either is a 1 floor home where they can expand up. Or a 2 floor home where they can expand down.

    Now here at 233 Dennis Dr, you are stuck in between. The foot print of this property is too small. I do not think they are approving floor plans to enlarge the foot print easily these days in this area.

    Stucco has proven to be a bad material as an exterior here. The seller should have remodelled it with siding instead.

    I don't see many flipped homes sell in this area anymore. Majority of the buyers here can (and want to) do the work themselves.

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    61   9:04pm Wed 9 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    anonanon says

    Hi everyone,

    It went down again. Now at $499k.

    Let's see, he paid $400k originally. Has to pay 6% commission to the real estate agent if he sold at $499k, which is $30k. Plus he paid for all the renovations. Think he broke even?

    not to mention either paying a mortgage or $400k cash tied up into this crapshack for a year.

    hopefully he loses on this flip.

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    62   2:30pm Tue 22 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Off the market (again). All history is missing as well.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/233-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/1618194

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    Remington says

    Off the market (again). All history is missing as well.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/233-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/1618194

    redfin says it's "pending"; last list is $499k

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    65   10:13pm Tue 22 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I wonder if you can see that concrete back yard from space? Ugly!!!

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    Lists as sold at 400K! I think Vain wins a prize!

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    67   12:03pm Wed 23 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Seller is a fucking dumb ass loser. That's all.

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    68   1:51pm Thu 24 Nov 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    The buyer has just lifted the inspection contingency. Let's wait for the appraisal. It will be back on market ;)

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    still pending

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    70   11:17pm Thu 22 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    http://rwprovidagroup.com/

    The Realtor (owner?) is also a Foreclosure Prevention Consultant.

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    jvolstad says

    http://rwprovidagroup.com/


    The Realtor (owner?) is also a Foreclosure Prevention Consultant.

    I've noticed agents try to give themselves fancy titles. He's just an agent with a broker license (Broker Associate). He's not the owner.

    These RE Agents claiming to be specialists of this nature should be a conflict of interest. All he wants is for you to list your home via Short-Sale with him. He gets nothing if you do a loan mod, or if you get foreclosed on, or if you win the lottery and pay off the property instantly. It makes perfect sense why one should steer you towards a Short-Sale. But not all agents are like this. There are honest ones out there ;) You just have to look harder.

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    Added as a favorite.

    This one will be back =D

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    73   3:15pm Sat 31 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    I think it's back. Listing removed from zillow on 12/28/11.

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    waiting_for_the_fall says

    I think it's back. Listing removed from zillow on 12/28/11.

    According to MLS it sold for $538k:
    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/233-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/1618194

    redfin should have (accurate) public records of the sale soon - if it actually sold and is not some realtor bullshit pretending it sold.

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    75   2:11pm Mon 2 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Any info on the buyer? is it even a real buyer? One of those mythical "Chinese overseas investors?"

    Who the hell would pay $420/sqft in this neighborhood in Daly City?

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    76   3:36pm Wed 4 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Sold for $538k. How did anyone convince someone to overbid on a property that's been sitting for so long with no offers? Maybe the seller credited the buyer a portion of their downpayment back outside of escrow.

    I'll post what the county record shows when it becomes available.

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    bubblesitter says

    Some how I read "SPECTACULAR VIEWS " as "SPECULATOR VIEWS" :)

    Someone should mention the FOG which kills off the views.

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    Hysteresis says

    redfin should have (accurate) public records of the sale soon - if it actually sold and is not some realtor bullshit pretending it sold.

    public records show sold for $538k
    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Daly-City/233-Dennis-Dr-94015/home/1618194

    buyer is a dumb fuck. he overbid on a house that wasn't selling.

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