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Theoretically: What happens if ALL homeowners stop paying their mortgage?


By dcllee   Follow   Thu, 17 Mar 2011, 1:04pm   7,056 views   60 comments
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What happens if all home "owners" (those who still have a mortgage) decided collectively that they would stop making payments each month? As we can see the banks are already struggling to re-sell the homes people are walking way from. It will really show these bankers who's the boss, when they are left with a bunch of wood and brick. Would the government step in and make people pay their mortgage?

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  1. Hysteresis


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    1   10:02pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    increasing rate of mortgage defaults were one of the catalysts to the near financial collapse in 2008/2009.
    100% rate of mortgage defaults means certain global financial collapse.

    everything is built on confidence - if you loan a dollar, you're going to get it back.
    if you loan a dollar and no one pays it back, no one loans any money.
    credit markets freeze. no loans, means businesses stop.

  2. ArtimusMaxtor


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    2   11:35pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    In some way's I would not be suprised. It's very strange to me that the government is involved in the lending business via encouraging homeownership. Here we have a mix of the Corporatly held Federal Reserve which is owned by member banks. Which ones you can guess at know one seems to pin that one down.

    Then we have the government which insures FHA loans. Add to that Fannie and Freddie not to mention the FHMLA. It's a confusing drama. A government that gave over printing money to Private banks. Gave up their right to make the money in this country. The politicians stare at us like owls wondering why we don't get it. Then toss Ron Paul in front of us saying he will get back the right for the government to make money instead of the Private Corporate Banks. Which they gave away back when.

    When are they going to stop calling it the Federal Reserve Bank. Treating us like we are nitwits. By calling it Federal. It's not Federal. Its owned by the Banks. They hold all the voting shares. If we did not have the internet. We probably would not even know that. Given the way those newshounds on TV lick anyones bowl clean who writes them a check. Ignoring us and feeding us a bunch of crap news.

  3. ArtimusMaxtor


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    3   11:07am Fri 18 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    One more thing. I talked about this on the OC register this morning. PRICE FIXING. Supposdly its illegal. Things like the commodity markets exsist. Why. I guess everyone that sells things like oil. Are bound for some uknown reason. To obey and fix their prices to what oil sells for a barrell.

    Heres the thing. What if someone wants to undercut everyone else? Don't you find it just a tad strange. That gas is the same price virtually at BP, Shell, Standard etc? It's damn fine the whole thing is so organized. But as we can well see. There are many countries that produce oil. Would not it be just as good. To do away with standards set for oil prices?????? Then there might be some competition. Why don't the morons in D.C. ever suggest something like that. Yea that just might be an idea. No price fixing based on indicators.

    Coke is the same price as Pepsi. One bag of potato chips is the same as the other. Same as bread etc. Then there are the cheap off brands that are produced by the big boys anyway. It's all so convienent. It's all right there. Deal is you pay out of the nose for there markups in time and labor.

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    4   2:01pm Fri 18 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    For the people by the people my ass then.

  5. solver


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    5   2:42pm Fri 18 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    History of the corrupt Money Changers and The Fed- Watch #1 first- it's short, then watch #2 MONEY MASTERS (incredible)
    1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRxHrzq7Yqs&feature=related
    2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0h

    Ok, as promised. I spoke to my material supplier today and the school that's getting the $112.00 per square foot marble is Chaffey College in Rancho Cucamonga. Also, http://www.mccarthy.com/ These guys are building a couple schools right now in California and their part of unified school districts.

    I'm certain that if someone called anonymously and asked for the address of the schools that are presently under construction that they'd probably tell you exactly where. FACT!

    By the way, my apologies for calling everyone a dumb ass for shopping at the Depot or Lowes. I too shop there on occasion. My point was that those places dumb down products by packaging and counter service. Real material yards tend to be more personalized and helpful, especially for contractors. There are also price breaks awarded to the purchase power of each contractor as well.

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    6   1:43pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I dont see how they can force people to pay; what are they going to do, force everyone out of their home?

    I've had the same fantasy, if something like this was pulled off on a large enough scale, banks wouldn't last a month.

  7. YesYNot


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    7   1:56pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Theoretically, at that point, you are just squatting in a house. I'm sure that a few renters would join you in there. Maybe you could hire a guard to keep them out - or just start a commune.

  8. Mark_LA


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    8   2:11pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    At the core, the U.S. Dollar would be completely worthless & our entire economy would crumble due to the way our fractional reserve banking system works. It only works if there are only a small % of deadbeat debtors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking

    ApocalypseFuck (you now the guy that tells us to plant potatoes and learn how to kill with your bare hands) is the only one prepared for such a scenario :)

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    9   2:19pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Its a crazy what if.

    What you should ask is 'what is EVERYONE UPSIDE DOWN on a mortgage stopped paying?' which is what is/will happen.

    The answer is what you see now.
    Endless free money for banks (borrow at ZIRP, lend at 5% for mortgage and 30% for credit card) + fictional accounting practice(FASB 157?) with no accountability
    free $ for unemployed to pay mortgage up to 50k worth($ for banks).
    Loan mods
    special programs to rent to defaulted loanowners
    endlessly postponed foreclosures (free house....until the sheriff shows up....he may never in many cases)

    Its worth repeating all the insane bailouts every time you can.

    Most people are NOT aware the feds are printing $ to give your niehbor who works under the table (and may make more than you...no way to tell) a 2% loan mod -at your expense partially - while you struggle to make the full mortgage payment.

    You would think people would be so angry at this Obama could get impeached BUT the majority wants this and in fact wants MORE bailouts I guess.

    Clinton got nearly impeached over a bj. (I guess if thats the major policitacl issue then times are pretty damn good!)

  10. thomas.wong1986


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    10   3:02pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    "It will really show these bankers who’s the boss, when they are left with a bunch of wood and brick. Would the government step in and make people pay their mortgage?"

    Dont bother going to the bank to cash out any money from your account... wont be there.

  11. Done!


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    11   7:13pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    The Bernake would print more money.

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    12   10:12pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Well, at least then we wouldn't be left holding the bag.

    Oh, I just thought that I'd share. I went to my material yard to make a purchase the other day and I took notice of some really nice looking marble. I asked about it and I was told that it was for a school that's being built.

    The architect hand picked over a 100k worth of Italian Marble and turned down the less expensive Chinese marble that was a tenth of the price. I've seen quite a few new schools continue to go up. The argument that is constantly waged is that the money is already in the system and if they don't use it, they'll lose it.

    Well, in my opinion, when you don't need something you return it so that you may afford your prior obligations. Maybe they should lose it and maybe we'll be able to retain many of the good teachers, schools and programs.
    Oh, for the record. Teachers have already been given notice that class sizes will be doubling to make way for those kids that are transferring from closing schools, or from other classes. Sports in the Inland Empire are being taken away as well.

    Piss on the quality of education that everyone's been banging their heads about, because it's going to hell in a hand basket.

    Now, why should we support the criminals that are stealing from us, left and right. Their robbing us in our sleep. It's a joke. If everyone made a statement about their concerns in the manner that best affected their reasoning, well, maybe then they would understand that they work for us and not the other way around.

    I'm in support of this completely. We the people are constantly mislead by the corrupt politicians, bankers, pharma companies and the likes. Nobody listens to the people. They lead us to believe that they do, but they really don't. How many times have we been promised the world, only to be let down time and time again. We vote these bastards in office based on the dreams they promote while in the running and once they get elected, our dreams become nightmares that stab us in the back.

    So, how best to make a statement. Well, this is the best idea yet. What are they going to do if everyone did the same? Hell, what could they do? Maybe we should start trading dirt instead of money. I'd like to see them take control of that one.

  13. American in Japan


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    13   10:22pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Might as well ask what would happen if Americans took all the top bankers and financial execs and hold them hostage until they stop influencing Washington for ill.

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    14   10:26pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    solver says

    Oh, I just thought that I’d share. I went to my material yard to make a purchase the other day and I took notice of some really nice looking marble. I asked about it and I was told that it was for a school that’s being built.

    The architect hand picked over a 100k worth of Italian Marble and turned down the less expensive Chinese marble that was a tenth of the price. I’ve seen quite a few new schools continue to go up. The argument that is constantly waged is that the money is already in the system and if they don’t use it, they’ll lose it.

    I think you are full of shit. You went to a stone yard and they just happened to tell you all about a school, and it's architect and what he was thinking, and what he chose versus what he rejected, and the purchase price of the materials, and the country of origin of the stone?

    Bullshit. You made this up so you want to make some misguided point about what a waste it is to build a school. If you want to make up stories about government waste, at least make them halfway believable.

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    15   11:12pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    That's called a revolution, which takes not only a collective mentality but collective cooperation. We could also bring the fed. gov't. to its kness if we all quit paying our taxes, but the risk is sticking your individual neck out there with the possiblility that no one else will.

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    16   11:15pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    OK. DUMB ASS. My material yard is both a plaster and stone yard. You can keep shopping where all the other dumb asses shop, at the DEPOT, or LOWES. I'll get the name of the school tomorrow. Then you can shit on yourself with your potty mouth. The proof is in the taste of the pudding and you'll get your bullshit nice and warm so you can taste and savor your own words.

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    17   11:29pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    By the way, do your own research and quit relying on the tubes disinformation to represent what's supposed to be original thought from that brain of yours. A liar, I'm not. By the way, if you drove a fraction of the miles that I drive in a day through the many cities and neighborhoods that I do, you too would see construction at these schools.

    Hell, look what they just wasted an ungodly amount of money on down on Wilshire Blvd where the Ambassador hotel once sat. http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/09/entertainment/et-ambassador9
    Opened in 2009 with no direct shortage of funds. Imagine all the jobs they could have saved had they not so wastefully spent it. Hell, there's another new school that also opened up on Willshire and Arlington area and there's an older school that's just a couple blocks South of it.

    That one opened a few years back too. Now that makes great sense. Instead of expanding on one lot, then took another lot over. From here on in, every time I find a school that's under construction, I'll be posting it, especially since these are slightly older ones.

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    18   11:35pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Lastly, I have a great relationship with my material yards. We're all friends. Yeah, they did disclose it to me, because the marble was beautiful. They couldn't believe that the architect had to have it sourced from Italy either. They offered the same from the China and it was turned down. PERIOD. You must work for NBC, CBS, ABC, or the likes.

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    19   11:49pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    What if all the renters get guns, find a nice house in a nice neighborhood, kick the squatters out and move in? That'd really show the self-entitled, want-something-for-nothing crowd who's boss. If getting a free house is the name of the game, then I want mine.

  20. solver


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    20   11:49pm Thu 17 Mar 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Well, if there's anything that we really need, IT'S CHANGE. We the people need to take back our country and if stone walling them by not making a mortgage payment is what it's all about, then so be it.

    The banks (Fed) bail themselves out with our tax dollars. Now if someone doesn't see the crime in that, then I don't know what the hell is wrong with them. It's to bad we don't have a say in where our tax dollars go.
    Hell, I know a few people and a few states that could desperately use it. Instead, it goes to everyone that I don't know. Those who are living high on the hog are still living high on the hog.

    They just don't get it. They don't get that we the people truly are in charge. We just lack direction and good leadership to drive us forward in a sound peaceful revolt. Violence doesn't hurt these people, they've got well paid high dollar prostitutes defending them, but taking their money away does.

    Who ever can bring some rock solid spine and change to the table for the 2012 elections is going to get my vote. I'm sick and tired of the weasels and liars who are whining and whining on our dollars. NO MORE SQUEAKY WHEELS GETTING OIL.

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