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Prescription drugs...the good, the bad and the ugly.


By American in Japan   Follow   Tue, 5 Apr 2011, 8:27pm   4,381 views   15 comments
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There are many prescription drugs out there. Some have really proven useful to cure diseases, conditions completely. Others have at least been able to arrest conditions or lessen the negative symptoms. Some prescription drugs have been "pushed" on patients that have little beneficial effects yet they are continued for years. Also some new medicines (read expensive) are "pushed" on and continued on patients even though they don't do anything better than an existing drug which is much cheaper (usually because the patent has expired). I especially hope to get comments from those in the medical profession on this.

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  1. elliemae


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    1   7:06am Thu 14 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    If you see the movie "love and other drugs" (you have to discount all the stupid shit in there), that's how the drug companies push drugs. The fact that new meds don't always work better doesn't matter much of the time.

    However, if a patient can't tolerate or won't respond to one medication, they might to another that is very similar.

  2. American in Japan


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    2   7:17am Fri 15 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    I have to see it!

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    3   11:24am Sat 23 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    I just saw an old "American Greed" episode about the drug Bextra. It describes the slime to a "t".

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    4   8:19am Sun 24 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Any others? Thanks Elliemae!

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    5   1:05pm Mon 25 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    My favorite example of a simple medical procedure that can cure conditions, and competes against some expensive drugs that are much less effective:

    http://open.salon.com/blog/amytuteurmd/2008/12/15/the_grossest_medical_procedure_ever

  6. American in Japan


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    6   4:14am Tue 26 Apr 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Bextra...looks bad. Was it really being pushed from 2001 - 2005?

    http://www.drugs.com/bextra.html

    BEXTRA TABLET; ORAL (10MG, 20MG)
    Active Ingredient(s): VALDECOXIB
    Applicant: GD SEARLE
    Chemical Type: New molecular entity (NME)
    Marketing status: Discontinued

  7. American in Japan


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    7   6:09pm Thu 25 Aug 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I am curious what some of you who work in the medical profession make of this Risk Proliferation Syndrome:

    http://www.smashcancer.com/2010/08/18/most-pharmaceutical-drugs-are-worse-than-useless/

    In *some* cases ineffective drugs are promoted and in worse cases drugs with harmful side effects.

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    8   6:29pm Fri 30 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  
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    9   6:39pm Fri 30 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    Here's how it works

    Drs prescribe effective drug x, available for $00.10 a tablet as a generic, for malady y.

    New drug from megadrug company is introduced and megadrug's representatives show up at Drs' offices with trunks full of money and tickets to Thailand to a dirty digger resort with unlimited hookers - all paid for - to prescribe in place of drug x for malady y.

    New drug is suddenly on the best seller list and every dr is writing scripts for it for malady y and taking extended vacations to Thailand.

    Five years later, newspaper stories appear that it's killing thousands of people, have of whom don't have malady y but are prescribed the drug as a prophylactic course of treatment, anyway.

    Victims form a class.

    The victims' lawyers are approached by a shadowy figure with a trunk full of money.

    Suit is dropped.

    Rumors persist.

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    10   12:39pm Mon 9 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    That's why it's always good to do the research yourself to see if there is an older generic drug that used to be the one that they would prescribe and ask for it by name. Of course, some of the time they simply stop making these though.

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    11   2:22pm Mon 9 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    American in Japan says

    I am curious what some of you who work in the medical profession make of this Risk Proliferation Syndrome:

    http://www.smashcancer.com/2010/08/18/most-pharmaceutical-drugs-are-worse-than-useless/

    In *some* cases ineffective drugs are promoted and in worse cases drugs with harmful side effects.

    Not to defend big pharma which has some truly dispicable practices, but I would look just a tiny bit deeper into this than an article by a sociologist published on a website promoting alternative treatment for cancer. Probably not a totally fair and unbiased source.

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    12   2:30pm Mon 9 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    American in Japan says

    The bad (10 anyway):

    http://www.alternet.org/story/153576/the_10_most_dangerous_meds_driving_america%27s_pill_crisis?page=entire

    Again big pharma is bad news, but this article is a big so what. Considering the amount of drug seekers 40k deaths per year is pretty good. Anyone who has ever dealt with the population knows they will get drugs of some kind somehow. Many of these pain killers are really a source of relief for many people. If none of them existed the drug seekers would find something else and all the legitimate users would just be out of luck.

    Whoever wrote the article is on planet pluto if they think that further restricting (there are pretty strong restrictions and tracking now, doctors aren't handing them out with the lollypops) these types of drugs will slow down the druggies in any way shape or form.

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    13   11:04pm Tue 17 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    @bob2356

    >"Whoever wrote the article is on planet pluto if they think that further restricting (there are pretty strong restrictions and tracking now, doctors aren't handing them out with the lollypops) these types of drugs will slow down the druggies in any way shape or form."

    You have a point. I'll look for better articles.

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    14   2:28pm Tue 24 Jan 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    If you are interested in alternative therapies you should check out the water cure. www.watercure.com or www.watercure2.org. This doctor, Dr. Batman is on to something. If you google him you will find him decried as a quack. If you read the testimonies of folks that were on their death beds and recovered fully without drugs. You will see this has potential to help and very little chance of harming you. If you read the book it will explain to you how to get hydrated. For me personally it has eliminated my chronic ongoing sinus problems and sinus infections.

    What did I do:

    Eliminate flouride from my water, diet and toilitries/drugs. (keeps your body from being able to utilize iodine, a necessary nutrient)
    Add unrefined sea salt, way more than you think.
    Drink half my weight in ounces of water each day.
    Add occasional supplementation of iodine and transdermal magnesium.
    Eat more fruits and vegetables than I did before, but I did eat a decent amount before.

    Oh and among the ailments that he says are helped by proper hydration is depression. Meanwhile people are given expensive addictive drugs like prozac and ablify and other SSRIs that are no better than placebo (google it). Yes I have witnessed first hand a friend's daughter with the addictiveness of abilify and zoloft. It was like a crack head trying to get off that drug after she developed tardive dysconesia (repetitive uncontrolled movements) . Think very very hard before trying these drugs. You can be helped with hydration and some fish oil supplements and there is no withdrawal from either.

    Best of health to all and if you want any more tips on natural healing go to this forum www.earthclinic.com. People give their own success stories on what has helped them. It is pretty cool because they have natural cures for common ailments that doctors won't even tell you there is anything you can do or try! So awesome. Got helped with endomitriosis and fibrocystic breast disease! Oh and the site is free!

    Oh and no the sea salt has not raised my blood pressure. In fact if you have high blood pressure this doc says you need more salt and water. My blood pressure is perfectly within the normal range.

  15. American in Japan


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    15   3:52am Thu 30 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Has anyone read "Death By Prescription" by Ray Strand, MD?

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