
Wow, just WOW. You thought Fox News was a bad partisan hack-job? Just wait until you see how the network is actually run. This article gives an inside view of Fox News in general and the boss, Roger Ailes, in particular.
This article from Rolling Stone magazine is just jaw-dropping.
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Palin? Anyone?
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Is this the "Nominations for the Dumbest Things Read on Patrick.net" thread?
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Here's an news item you'll never see on Faux News (or, on most cable news):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110603/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_colombia_rebels
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This thread cracks me up. First Rolling Stone and then Jon Stewart.
Here is a link that PROVES (no it doesn't) what liar Michael Hastings, a Rolling Stone reporter was when he wrote that damn article about McChrystal that sure helped a lot during a friging war - (thanks Mike!):
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/27/hastings
Ellie, you sound like my aunt bless you. "I get all my news from Jon Stewart!" I know you didn't mean THAT but whenever I hear people reference Jon it just slays me. Do you really think that guy is funny? I mean, to me he just comes across as a bitter guy with a chip on his shoulder. Now Stephen Colbert (also not a Fox News fan) is genius I can watch that guy all day. But would I consider ANYTHING they said 'news'? Just say'in..
I used to keep Fox news on for background noise at my place daily. I heard the arguments. Nothing about birthers. Now switch over to MSNBC: Keith Olbermann and that Rachel Maddog chicken hawk lady - blah blah birthers, blah blah birthers. Give me a break...
Yup, I know, Fox is full of it they all are. But they sure are a LOT nicer to people on that show (in general, I never liked some of them at all but Megyn Kelly - yum!) and there is a reason they clean up in the ratings. MSNBC, CNN, etc, all pretty much just parrot each other. I'm trying to think of the equivalent to, 'Faux News' using MSNBCCNNPBSNPR - scrabble anyone?
Anyone with a brain on their head knows they all have an agenda. There is no more real 'investigative reporting' anymore. If you want news and facts you don't even need to watch the news. You can get as much as you'll ever get at the water cooler at work. For example: We are bombing someone. There is your fact, news, you're done. Why are we bombing someone? Well, there is the spin baby.
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shrekgrinch says
Iwog was replying to ToT. This is obvious to everyone except you, considering that he actually quoted ToT in his post.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this statement, given that the grammatically correct method of making your point would have included actual quotation marks around the word "communicated." See how that works?
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You didn't make a difference, you merely made sense once. Those are two different things.
As I mentioned, you appear to take delight in being rude & argumentative. I'm sure that at least your cat likes you - but I'm assuming that the cat doesn't speak english.
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You do understand how this works right, (context) the comment wasn't meant to show how erudite I am, it was just a response to Tot who has said on several occasions (including right here in this thread) that Fox is only watched by democrats so that they can make fun of what they say. He more than just implies that intelligent republicans don't take it seriously. He's wrong and we all know it. Well, technically it might be true that intelligent republicans don't watch it much. But I guarantee that many mainstream, not just super right wing DBs like you, watch it.
Context Chris, context. But I am impressed with your reasoning. "that's why public education is hooey." I'll just assume you are preaching to some retarded choir out there.
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So i canceled comcast cable and built a UHF antenna out of scraps for ~$5 which is awesome in the bay area. This means I can't get Fox News anymore unless I pipe it to my plasma TV from my computer. For a good while now I'm watching the local broad casts over 90% of the time. Here is what I get:
100 channels crystal clear
30 of them are in English (WTF?! I guess only 30% of the public speak English)
10 of them are HD
3 of them are 1080i
All of the news and informational broadcasts such as PBS, BBC, etc lean left. Way left in some cases. I literally can't leave a PBS station on for over an hour with out hearing: Americans are bad, white people are bad, slavery this/that, inequality this, men are bad, we screwed the Japanese over in concentration camps, we did this, we did that. Seriously... I start out with maybe a show on Nature (which are often great but a bit leftist at times - tolerable) and get busy doing something else but still listening. I get hit with propaganda over and over and over until about the time I feel like putting on the hair shirt and flogging myself I change to something else.
Sure, don't forget your history or you'll repeat it. But to repeat this stuff over and over and over and over with nothing else in between? Total propaganda.
Heysus Kristos... People are upset with Fox News which is a private station?
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Wow, that must be one powerful antenna. I have an antenna with a power booster in Oakland and I get only 58 channels. I'd say that 85% are in English. Your antenna must be so powerful that you can pick up channels in Mexico.
It must be terrible to watch programs that make you think on PBS. I rather enjoy thought provoking programming. I don't get liberal propaganda during nature shows, Suze Ormann, cooking shows, and foreign news programs. Also I never feel like whipping myself and wearing a hair shirt. And I don't seem to get programming that tells me that white Americans and this country are evil. Are you sure that your antenna isn't so powerful that you are getting North Korean stations? I know that signals can bounce across the water...
I'm very impressed that you get so many stations from so far away.
I find our local news to be a joke. It's dumbed down corporate rambling.
At least it's not Fox News... Too bad News Corp owns several of the stations here.
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Right......you just wanted to see the president's birth certificate because the day he announced his candidacy, you thought to yourself "Gee......I wonder if he really WAS born in Hawaii?"
What a bunch of crap. You heard it on TV, on the radio, on the internet, or from someone else who was spoon fed this bullshit and you adopted it as your own. For all your protests, you live and breath whatever Newscorp feeds you.
Do you know when Obama showed his birth certificate? Immediately after it became an issue in the primaries. The certificate posted on Obama's website is the only legal birth certificate in Hawaii. The document you pretend was your original idea to demand isn't even a legal birth certificate. Not only is none of this your idea, the entire issue created from the neoconservative echo chamber was a fraud from the beginning.
........and you have the nerve to insist Clusterfox is for the consumption of liberals?
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iwog says
Is that what he said? I've decided to start smoking again, merely to attempt to understand what he's saying. I'd be doing it in the name of science, of course.
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Here's a list pal:
http://www.choisser.com/sfonair.html
Here is the antenna design:
http://uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.com/
Mine is 1/3 the size his is, also in the attic, also on a rotor and so it's directional. You don't need no stinkin power booster smarmy guy...
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elliemae says
I think I'll join you. *rolls a fat one full of bubba gum kush* Puff... Puff... Ah, that makes the dreck posted here so much more bearable. Pass...
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Very well done. So well done in fact, that I have an extremely hard time understanding how it wouldn't get through at least a little to this supposed ex-liberal. We'll see. Makes one wonder how many of the people who chime in on this forum are even real.
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See, the thing is, nobody else ever has a problem communicating. It's always you that seems to not be able to understand. As an intelligent person, if I saw that everyone else were communicating perfectly and I was the only one having trouble--I might consider the possibility that it was I that had the problem.
Just something to think about shrek.
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Also, technically, shouldn't that be "communicate properly"?
(trolling, pardon, cheap shot)
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shrekgrinch says
I "only delight..." is clearly incorrect, as he purports to delight in all sorts of things on other threads. And the proper wording would be "I take delight in reading the replies of all of the idiots on these forums who..."
Hell, let's take a walk down recent memory lane and review shrek's "proper communication:"
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You are grammatically incorrect in each of these sentences. Since we're discussing semantics, your first sentence is poorly constructed. The second sentence is incorrect, in that I am able to read and comprehend the meaning of the many posts that you believe to be about you. Given that you believe you're the focus of multiple posts which include statements about you that you believe to be factually incorrect, you have supported my hypothesis that you aren't taken seriously.
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Oh, I get it. You're here for the little guy, the one who reads but never participates in the conversation. Since these anonymous, unrepresented people don't post here, how would you quantify your ability to convince them of anything? Do the voices in your head tell you they've been convinced? Have you conducted a poll to arrive at the 90% figure, or did you pull this number out of your ass?
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The word "see" is not a sentence unto itself, nor is the word "seriously." In fact, we're able to identify multiple grammatical errors in your writing. Using your logic, these glaring grammatical errors overshadowed whatever it was you were attempting to say, rendering your messages unitelligible and therefore obsolete. But please keep up the "good work," we're just waiting to see it.
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This sounds like a personal problem to me.
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Here for Iwog and Elliemae's edification.
The irrelavant rag nobody has read in 30 years, "I" was referring to,
Is Rollingstone.
Why do you guys twist every thing I say back to Fox news and the Republicans.
Show of Liberal hands who's watching fox news channel right now.
Uhuh, "State is watching Greta Van Susteren"
"Is that Ellie watching the ORiley factor?"
"Iwog watching old episodes Glen Beck on Tivo missing the good ole days."
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Is that ToT taking another bong hit or did he switch to salvia divinorum?
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Thanks for your concern, tot. Obviously you didn't read my post, although you felt free to reply to it anyway:
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The "irrelavant" (correct spelling: irrelevant) rag to which you are referring has a circulation of 1.4 million, altho the newstand sales have dropped from 189k to 132k last year; this is typical of most traditional magazines trying to deal in the digital age. However, Rolling Stone's overall readership in 2008 was bigger than it's ever been.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/business/worldbusiness/11iht-11mag.15160438.html
I would have quoted a more recent article, but I don't care about the subject enough to actually perform research. Tenouncetrout says
I'm pleased to know that you fantasize about me, but I don't watch Faux News, nor CNN, nor MSN. I prefer to get my news from a reputable news source - Stewart & Colbert.
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simchaland says
He obviously doesn't realize that this thread is about Faux News. Please don't use such large words with him, Simcha. It tends to confuse him.
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elliemae says
Maybe I should have suggested that he switched to smack. Salvia Divinorum are both Latin words and "Divinorum" does have three syllables.
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Typical Liberal fight or flight....
"I'm smart and you're stupid"
If I'm so Goddamn stoned and stupid then why do you Assholes spend so much energy and resources to spin and suppress every damn thing I say?
Isn't there a Sean Hanity Marathon on today?
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I guess you would know better than we do about that.
I get over the air starions only. I hate Comcast and I don't think I'll be calling them to install their faulty and worthless product in my apartment.
But please, do go on. Tell us all about the Sean Hannity Marathon. Is it showing anywhere else but in your drug addled mind?
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I'm not sure you understand what "fight or flight" means.
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I don't spend time, and I certainly don't spend resources, "spinning & suppressing every damn thing you say." I do spend a few minutes trying to decipher what you meant. Oops, too many syllables, so I'll try again.
You make no sense. Your rants are unintelligible. We don't understand your posts. Your lack of ability to formulate a cohesive thought on paper (in this case, online) doesn't lend itself to mutual conversation.
I know that I was redundant, repetitive, and I said the same thing over & over. I hope it made sense in one of the formats I presented.
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Well see, that's your first problem, you shouldn't argue over things you don't understand, with people you don't understand.
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ToT, may I suggest a place for you to get away from it all for a while? It's free:
Faith Family Farm Ministries Rehabilitation Services Boynton Beach Campus
It looks like it's very pleasant there.
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simchaland says
Please take a cab or have your wife drive you, tho. DUI is serious business.
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OK, I'll watch Fox if it means so much to you.
I just turned to Fox News for the first time in a long time.
FYI Ellie Sean Hanity is on right now. I didn't know they are America's News Headquarters, AND America's Election Headquarters. Did you know that? Of course you did, you watch FOX all the time. What's his deal Ellie he seems feisty.
He said Obama patted him self on the back yesterday for the auto bailouts, Hanity says it was Bush that made the auto Bailout.
You Go Sean! It had to be said, right? right? right?
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I'm glad you have someone to play with.
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I'm glad you're thinking about me, tp. It's cute. I don't watch Faux News, but I'm a "fox" so I can see where you connect the two.
We're all happy that you're able to focus on anything.
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Then how do you know what they talk about all the time?
How could you lead intelligent debate on hear say,
how can you NOT watch FOX and have anything objective to say about it?
They have actually been quite enlightening and entertaining for the hour or so I've been watching so far.
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I like The Simpson's, it's on Fox. I think King of the Hill, was, too.
I out-foxed Fox and their corporate partners by TIVO'ing past the commercials.
(Ah yes, TIVO, another Californian innovation to help Californians put non-California corporate content on 'ignore'.)
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hey the iFoxnews App is the #1 iTunes free download,
that's ironic even the apple fanboys watch Fox News.
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I agree, another innovation from California, all the money those California-hating folks spent on those innovations going to China for the cost, and California based company for profit.
It's redistributionist. Kind of like the high gasoline taxes they pay for their inefficient gas guzzlers, subsidizing costs for the gas-sippers.
Keep buying those apple products, and keeping paying those gasoline taxes.
And oh yeh, thank you.
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elliemae says
I know. Right? He's usually playing with himself.
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Oh well. I have an Epic 4g. I'm using it to post now. Android rules. Fanboys piss me off. It figures that you're a fanboy ToT.
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Tenouncetrout says
I don't have anything objective to say about Faux News, never claimed to. I can base my opinion on the multiple statements made by the intelligent reviewers, not-so-intelligent reviewers, and the stoned reviewers. I can also base my opinion on Faux News' admission that the majority of its programming consists of opinion.
I'm happy that you were able to focus on anything for an hour. But your claim of Faux Nes being the number one download doesn't compute, according to Apple th number one download is CNN but I guess that doesn't fit into your paradigm:
http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/apps/top10appstorenews.html
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The US of Europe ? No, they have the EU.
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elliemae says
Yes. That is from Apple and it is CNN #1, and Fox #2 (sad), but that is only news apps right ? Neither one is up there if ranking all free apps, which is what Tot said.
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Tenouncetrout says
Don't get your panties in a knot, ten-oz. I couldn't find a link to a site stating that your favorite app is the #1 free download. However, if it is, does it support that faux news is number one, or just number one amongst the people who are too cheap (or can't afford) to pay for real news?
Why are you so angry with me, tpb? All I've done is to point out that you make little or no sense most of the time, and that your grasp on reality seems to be slipping. You constantly blame everything on the liberals and display your anger, however misdirected it might be, at our president and the liberals in California.
You used to make more sense and it's sad to see evidence of brain cells dying or at least resisting the opportunity to deal with reality.
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Two Fox News guests Ken Blackwell and Ben Shapiro warn of the liberal propaganda dangers of Elmo and Big Bird in Sesame Street; Hannity agrees.
According to these people, Sesame Street:
* Engenders low expectations (???)
* Engenders gender bending
* Places itself between Church and Family in values creation
* Creates dependency on the government (?!?!)
* Creates an environment where making money doesn't entitle you to it (?!?!)
See for yourself:
http://youtu.be/3Ypsojc5vFg
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Fox is little more than a cancer on America. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do know that they are doing extensive harm.
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Don't you remember the "Bert & Ernie are Gay" controversy of the 1990's?
Stupid shit.