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Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 28 May 2016, 11:10pm PDT   Like   Dislike (1)     Share   Quote   Comment 1

iwog says

Honestly conversations like this are very depressing. I can't understand how humanity fell so far in so little time. I deserve better opponents than this. People who can actually think about a subject before pulling something out da ass.

I can relate. I'd rather not see the rantings of a Manosphere Mouthpiece on

From Wikipedia:

"The manosphere (portmanteau of man and blogosphere) or androsphere[1] (from Ancient Greek: ἀνήρ, anēr, genitive ἀνδρός, andros, "man") is a name given to a loose and informal network of blogs, forums[2] and websites, with internet commentators focussing on issues relating to men and masculinity, as a male counterpart to feminism or in opposition to it. Many of these are men's spaces. Their content is varied, and includes Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW),[3] men's rights issues, fathers' rights movement activists, and male victims of abuse,[4] self-improvement, bodybuilding, antifeminism, seduction community commentary for pick-up artists.[2][5]

The manosphere has its own distinct jargon. Manosphere websites commonly use red pill and blue pill imagery as an analogy; accepting the manosphere's ideology is equated with "taking the red pill", and "blue pill" refers to those who disagree with their philosophy. The terms "alpha male" and "beta male" are also commonly used.[2]

Notable examples of manosphere sites reportedly include the Red Pill Room, A Voice for Men and Roosh V's website Return Of Kings as well as his personal blog and forum.[2][4][6][7] Reddit is a popular gathering place for manosphere supporters, and there are several forums on the site that are geared toward its ideas. One of these, the Red Pill subreddit, has over 100,000 subscribers.[4][8]"

Welcome to the Manosphere: A Brief Guide to the Controversial Men's Rights Movement

Men's Rights Movement (mrm): A loose-knit network of groups and activists (MRAs) who believe men are an oppressed class.

Red pill: In the classic sci-fi film The Matrix, the hero must choose between swallowing a blue pill, which will allow him to remain in a pleasant illusory world, or a red pill, which will open his eyes to the reality in which he is enslaved. In men's rights parlance, "red pillers" realize that men, not women, are oppressed.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 28 May 2016, 7:22pm PDT   Like (1)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 2

iwog says

You're dead wrong and your assertion is quite frankly fucking stupid.

No, you are. Women have to fit into this man-built-hell-on-earth.

iwog says

Because............nothing approaching what would be considered a gynocracy has ever existed or could even be imagined?

Because.........YOU can't imagine it.

iwog says

The trend in bikes, as in cars, is higher and higher horsepower ratings. This requires larger, heavier engines.

Because they are catering to men. The whole infrastructure caters to men, but you don't see it. Why would a woman get on a too big, too heavy, too fast and therefore dangerous (for her) motorcycle? And then drive it on roads with SUV's, pick up trucks and 18 wheelers? Most women do not do it because the risks outweigh the rewards. (this is the place in the post where you insert an insult, like calling someone stupid, willfully ignorant, asinine, etc. I just want you to know I could do the same but I will not stoop down to your lowliness. )

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 28 May 2016, 12:46pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 3

thunderlips11 says

If we painted Turbines and Transformers Mimi Eisenhower Pink, would that help?

Doubtfully. It's not about the color. Most women have no idea what turbines and transformers really even do, let alone be able to maintain it. It is likely (theorizing here) in a woman-built (or women only) society use of the heavy industrial items would be on a much smaller scale if used at all. There would be a smaller number of engineers and an even smaller number of women to do any type of heavy physical labor so it'd all have to be scaled way back. Large cities like the ones we have now would not be able to exist -- it'd likely be smaller communities, with smaller needs. Just like you say above, people, not technology would be more important, so family, extended family and community would raise in importance.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 28 May 2016, 11:55am PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 4

iwog says

Yeah except false.

You have nothing to compare to since a solely women-created infrastructure doesn't exist. The main point is for you to bitch about women not doing the "dirty, dangerous jobs". These industries and projects were not built with the concept that women were going to maintain them.

Motorcycles, for the large part, are built for the scale of men. Women are only 14% of total motorcycle riders and this is a peak number and includes little scooters and motocross bikes. There are very few motorcycles an average sized women can touch their feet on the ground while holding up the bike. And most women can not handle the weight of a motorcycle if it starts to tip, which range in weight from 300 - 1000 lbs., with most in the 500 lb range. There is of course the exceptionally strong, tall and risk-taking women. So you get a incredibly fun sport and efficient mode of transportation that is mainly built for men and enjoyed by men because MEN are building things for MEN, not for women.

This is a man's world. Don't you realize this? Our society is entirely built by men, for men. Why is this not enough for you?

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 28 May 2016, 10:02am PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 5

BayAreaObserver says

Why do men do all the awful, dangerous, dirty jobs in society

There are no female firefighters, police, airline pilots/co-pilots, trash haulers, iron/steel workers, drivers, refinery/chemical plant operators/techs,

You've forgotten that men built all the all the things that require dirty, dangerous jobs in society. Men built castles, cathedrals, then skyscrapers. Men built industrial plants, huge dams, monumental bridges. Men built them for men to maintain. If women had built society, they would not have built to the current scale. We wouldn't have skyscraping phallus' poking into the sky. Women would build to the scale they could maintain which would have been lower to the ground, mostly like much more in harmony with nature.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 27 May 2016, 3:42pm PDT   Like   Dislike (1)     Share   Quote   Comment 6

Getting a foreign wife to worship you does not make you a red pill man. You are still a slave, a "battery" as the movie you quote so often demonstrated. Nothing changes. Now you just have a more subservient female to lord over, just as the powers that be lord over you. Getting some foreign women who is more subjugated by the inequalities and injustice of the Western economic and political paradigm, is like getting a band-aid for a severed artery. In the movie, did Neo get a foreign-born wife? No, he wanted Trinity, a kick-ass, tougher than most men, American woman. And the two of them together changed and saved the world. To further the analogy - your role is more like Cypher - just put me back in the matrix, and make me someone important.

iwog says

You don't get to go back once you've taken the Red Pill. No one does.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 19 May 2016, 10:39am PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 7

Rent control is absolutely a factor in rents rising. Look at the chart - rent is basically horizontal until 1979 where is starts its steeper ascent. Advertised rental rates do not accurately reflect actual rental rates because some pay very low due to rent control and some pay very high rates. Rent control limits movement and inventory. Owners keep their property off the rental market rather than get a tenant in that will be next to impossible to evict. In SF if the tenant lives there over 5 years and pulls a disability card you may as well not even try to evict, or be willing to buy them their next house, that is how much it will cost you to buy them out, if you are lucky. Much safer to keep empty or use as a vacation rental only.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 14 May 2016, 11:03am PDT   Like (1)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 8

Ironman says


These were coming regardless of any minimum wage hike.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 13 May 2016, 10:34pm PDT   Like (1)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 9

curious2 says

The root cause is the combination of zoning&planning policies designed deliberately to prohibit constructing enough housing supply to meet demand at a reasonable price point.

Goodness Gracious! That article was long! While the first 3/4 is very informative, the last 1/4 shows the writer's bias toward defending the tech takeover in SF.

As the article states, rent control forces the mom and pop landlords to subsidize 75% of the rental population in SF, while the unfortunate remaining 25% have to pay astronomical rent. This also decreases rental supply, as the rent-controlled tenants are unwilling and often unable to move since they will then have to pay market rates, leaving few available units. Couple it with Airbnb and you've got zero vacancy rates and people paying to live in someone's closet.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 7 May 2016, 10:37am PDT   Like (1)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 10

This school is such a scam. They accept anyone who wants to go to art school, regardless of an inkling of artistic talent, and charge incredibly high tuition for an art degree. Among many of their egregious practices they also heavily recruit international students, especially from Asia. The parents of these college age Asian kids pay huge amounts of tuition out of pocket hoping their kid will be able to turn it into a green card and eventually emigrate the rest of the family to the USA.

"One way the school includes more students is through heavy international recruitment practices. Academy of Art has offices in Taipei, Taiwan; Bangkok, Thailand; Seoul, South Korea; and a representative in India. University Facebook pages and the school’s website advertise in at least four different languages, listing dates for meetups and information sessions.

According to the same former employee, international students serve as a huge source of revenue for the school. “The thing that’s great about international students is not only are they full ride, but they have to take ESL classes, which are in addition to whatever their unit loads are,” the employee said. “So not only do they nail them for the unit loads, but they take an additional three or five classes of ESL, which are full tuition price courses.”

International students tend to represent a significantly more affluent segment of the population than the overall student body. “Money wasn’t an issue for a lot of the international kids,” recalls Esch, the former student advisor. “They had to pay cash up front and didn’t get government loans.”

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 6 May 2016, 9:13pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 11

January 3, 1931

Drought and the Great Depression causes hundreds of angry farmers to converge on the town of England, Arkansas, demanding that the Red Cross give them the assistance that had been promised to feed the starving members of their community.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 6 May 2016, 8:57pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 12

America, 1931:

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 6 May 2016, 7:18pm PDT   Like (1)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 13

just_passing_through says

Your grandma was starting to act like a junkie you said so yourself. She was not taking her meds as-prescribed and so was abusing them,

The whole point is Oxy doesn't work as prescribed so people end up taking more of it. They aren't junkies.

She is not my grandma - she is my mother. I think your reading comprehension needs some work.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Fri, 6 May 2016, 9:05am PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 14

iwog says

I would argue that you've got it backwards and the USSR proves it. An employee of a big successful company or even a government knows there's someone at the helm, has faith that the company will remain profitable or in the case of the government remain effective, and the roads and bridges will be completed to which he can point with pride to something he helped create. A man goes to work every day building his 401k, paying off a mortgage, and looking forward to retirement. It may be a grind sometimes but it's a productive grind with direction.

This presupposes humans are externally directed and motivated versus internally directed and motivated. This is true in our current society most people are programmed to respond to external stimulus, be it punishment or reward. Our school systems do not teach children to create, but to follow. It's important that the schools would need to be revamped to foster children's self-governance and self-reliance.

I agree the USSR was a terrible model. It failed for good reason-- see Animal Farm.

iwog says

A collective by definition doesn't have any aim, and if someone steps up and takes charge of some goal, (like a skyscraper) the minority is still going to be "slaves" to someone else's vision. Furthermore those who don't share this vision are likely to abandon the project and go farming instead. Also those who are originally on board will possibly become disillusioned at some point, face a critical decision to press on or give up, and have absolutely NO assurances that it will ever be completed or that the original plan is even viable. Finally there are those who are just plain lazy and will figure out ways to leech off the entire company.

This happened to an extent with the Occupy movement. Without sufficient leadership, vision and goals, it seemed to suffer from some of the things you mention and to fizzle out. There needs to be a council/leaders to guide others. No sociopaths/psychopaths would be allowed. Capitalism rewards psychopaths and places them in the top positions of leadership and power. , Qualifications for council leadership are those who have a record of selflessly working for the good of others/humanity. Checks would need to put in place to throw out anyone vying for power or control.

Dan8267 says

How would one possibly run a society more sophisticated than a herd of monkeys without some form of taxation.

iwog says

My guess is that you're proposing a system of "Communism lite" that addresses NONE of the systemic deficits of communism original.

I don't have the nuts and bolts figured out for an entire global economy, who does? Possibilities: A 10% taxation across the board is an option, or if you don't want to pay, you give your time and energy to maintain essential services and to maintain and build infrastructure for the common good.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 5 May 2016, 11:34pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 15

iwog says

You're a slave if you're forced to pay taxes for your own roads and bridges but you're not a slave if collectively you all decide to build roads and bridges for yourself?

Yes. Similar to the difference between working as an employee and owning your own business. You still get up everyday and go to work, eat lunch and drive through traffic, but it is a completely different experience. Any business owner or self-employed person can tell you this.

iwog says

Furthermore how much different would things look in some sort of equitable society where no one owed anything to anyone else but was still required to put in a day's work?

Joyful. What about the concept that in the absence of fear, people are creative, productive beings that are motivated to better themselves and the world they live in? Fear is not the only driver of humans, although our society is currently set up so that fear motivates all. Since we are used to fear being our motivator, we forget about other possibilities, such as the promise of a better, more balanced and expanded life, for instance.

iwog says

At best this is totally untested

It needs to be tried to be tested.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 5 May 2016, 11:19pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 16

just_passing_through says

Which is the definition of abuse and not the fault of the pharma company.

From the article:

"Experts said that when there are gaps in the effect of a narcotic like OxyContin, patients can suffer body aches, nausea, anxiety and other symptoms of withdrawal. When the agony is relieved by the next dose, it creates a cycle of pain and euphoria that fosters addiction, they said."

My 88 year old mother was not "abusing" ocycontin. She is not at an after-party looking for a high. She was in severe pain and trying to lessen pain with the prescribed "pain killer", which was not working as promised. She started to take more because the pain would come back hours before her next scheduled dose. I've heard the pain of shingles described as something you wouldn't wish upon your worst enemy. Basically she was going through withdrawal a couple hours after each dose, coupled with severe pain, which caused her to want to take more of the oxy, creating a dangerous cycle.

The fault of Purdue Pharma lies in the fact that their product does not work as promised. People then take more of the drug which is dangerous. Possible outcomes are addiction as well as overdose (death).

turtledove says

Shingles are no joke. Hugs to your mom

Thank you. She has also been incredibly healthy all her life. This is really taking it's toll on her. She is still in much pain and it's been 2 months so far.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 5 May 2016, 8:13pm PDT   Like (3)   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 17

Recently my 88 year old mother had shingles and was put on oxy. Although it was supposed to last 12 hours her pain would return in 2 1/2 hours. Shingles is extremely painful so she ended up taking way too much of the drug. She is not an addictive person but it seemed like she was getting addicted to the Oxy so we got the MD to prescribe her a time-release morphine which is working much better. If we hadn't been on top of the situation she could have had many problems possibly overdosing.

It's shocking what the pharmaceuticals companies will do for the almighty dollar.

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 5 May 2016, 10:38am PDT   Like   Dislike (1)     Share   Quote   Comment 18

Ceffer says

SJW boooooosheattt!

That's right. Just shut the trap and defend the status quo. I got mine!

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Thu, 5 May 2016, 10:13am PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 19

iwog says

None of us will voluntarily shed our 'slavery' to return to our roots of hunting, gathering, and sustenance farming. Furthermore it's our 'slavery' that results in an organized, highly technical society that allows most of us to sloth around on the couch eating cheese puffs or spend half the night surfing the net. It is also quite possible to reject work all together in this society and never pay another penny in taxes again but still eat regularly and have a roof over your head. Even in that state you're far better off than you would have been 50,000 years ago in any part of the world.

This assumes if we don't have "slavery", then we automatically return to a pre-industrial revolution society. That is not true. Our society can be organized differently than the current set up, and can be even more culturally, technologically, psychologically, spiritually and economically advanced. Being well-paid slaves does not make slavery acceptable. Just because in the US as compared to many third world countries, we are "house slaves", doesn't mean we are more "free".

"There was two kinds of slaves. There was the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes - they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good 'cause they ate his food -- what he left. They lived in the attic or the basement, but still they lived near the master; and they loved their master more than the master loved himself....

...And if you came to the house Negro and said, "Let's run away, let's escape, let's separate," the house Negro would look at you and say, "Man, you crazy. What you mean, separate? Where is there a better house than this? Where can I wear better clothes than this? Where can I eat better food than this?" That was that house Negro....

This modern house Negro loves his master. He wants to live near him. He'll pay three times as much as the house is worth just to live near his master, and then brag about "I'm the only Negro out here." "I'm the only one on my job." "I'm the only one in this school." You're nothing but a house Negro. And if someone comes to you right now and says, "Let's separate," you say the same thing that the house Negro said on the plantation. "What you mean, separate?..."

Indiana Jones   befriend (0)   ignore (1)   Sat, 30 Apr 2016, 12:28pm PDT   Like   Dislike     Share   Quote   Comment 20

Take a lead from the current German model. Sanders and free higher education has NOTHING to do with Hitler, which is ridiculous.

“A majority of German voters agree that a decent start in life includes the possibility of a free higher education,” says Frieder Wolf, a political science professor at the school.

To limit spending, Wolf says, professors teach more and earn less than their American colleagues.

"This is not to complain. I love my job and I have a lot of freedom but this is how we keep costs down — larger classrooms,” Wolf says. “We’ve got courses with 40 participants, 50 participants in the social sciences, where [American universities] might have tutorials of four or five students.”

And unlike their American counterparts, German universities have very little administrative bloat.

"Many administrative tasks for which you would have specialized personnel in the States is done by the teachers and professors here,” Wolf says.

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