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  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Stop flying!, thunderlips11 said:

    The most heavily subsidized industry in the US makes sure that Congress won't even pass regulations requiring planes loitering on the tarmac to return to the gate after a few hours of stuck, sweltering passengers.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Conservative Torture Lovers Based Policy on TV Show 24, thunderlips11 said:

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in U.S. corporations lining up to invest in Cuba, thunderlips11 said:

    And the 1%er Exiles don't want it.

    Because they want their property back with interest and damages, and force the ordinary Cubans to pay for it.

    If US Companies buy those properties, they'll outgun them in a US or post-Castro Cuban Court.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Stop flying!, thunderlips11 said:

    The recliner, those bastards. #9.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Single Payer Health System Dies in Vermont & Why It Matters, thunderlips11 said:

    Single Payer has failed the world over. France, UK, Germany, Sweden - all failures. People die at 50 from minor health problems.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Top Trolls, thunderlips11 said:

    bgamall4 says

    Most of you losers have that virus. So does Noam Chomsky.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    How much did the CIA pay Yanukovych to shoot his own people?

    Yankovytch's police were shot at by ultranat/nazi elements within the protesters. Then, snipers of unknown origin - and Yats/Porky don't seem very interested in investigating this mystery - shot protesters on both sides, just like in another US backed coup in 2004.

    There's a reason you have seen the "Victims" of the police being paraded around on TV, it's because they are covered in tattoos, and not of flowers and butterflys.

    In a Democracy, you have to put up with governments you don't like until the next elections. The Western-Ukrainians can't win an election without US interference. Yankuvytch won the last real election fair and square and certified by international observers.

    Even more, Yankuvytch promised to hold early elections just a few weeks after he was ousted.

    Duly elected Yankovytch's removal was a coup, and the people who voted for him have every right to oppose the coup regime. As for successive elections, they were done by replacing the Constitution, intimidating the opposition by beatings, and "Lustrations" - banning the opposition from government.

    Just google it. There are countless incidents of elected officials being beaten by crowds of ultranats.

  • On 19 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    If you are justifying russian reoccupation of novorussiya because some people don't think it's legit after 94 years and counting....well that brings into play just about every piece of real estate on the planet...

    Not reoccupation, correcting a tyrannical land transfer. There was no "reoccupation" because Russia didn't "Occupy" the Crimea anymore than the US "occupies" Texas or California.

    As for Donbass, Putin has stated he prefers it to be part of a federal Ukraine that respects the vote, and where Lvov SS collaborators don't have a shit fit and overthrow the government with US help everytime they don't get what they want (which will be often, given the larger population in the east).

  • On 18 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    So Ukraine sends the worst of their worst, the Donbas, Dnipro and Azov brigades to the front lines to fight and take back territory Russia ( oh i mean the rebels ) have illegally confiscated. These neonazi thugs are probably the toughest out of their mind fighters Ukraine can employ.

    Novorussiya was given to Ukraine by the Soviets after the 1920s.

    Here's a poster from before it was undemocratically shifted into Ukraine by the Communists (to balance out the industry/proles in Donbass/Left Bank Ukraine with the peasant farmer rednecks in the west of Ukraine):

    Donbass is the Heart of Russia.

    Most cities in Donbass were founded by the Tsars. Lugansk, Odessa, etc. The population is overwhelmingly Russian speaking.

    They don't want to live in a country that worships villains like Stepan Bandera, where their kids will learn that murderers like Roman Shukhevych are "National Heroes". It would be like waking up tomorrow and finding out Benedict Arnold was a "National Hero".

    SoftShell says

    Sounds like a win/win for Poroshenko..

    Word on the street is that Porky doesn't mind who he sells to.

    SoftShell says

    too early to tell who won...wait to see how much more of Ukraine russkie inhales...if not all of it.

    If Russia is wise it will reject Galicia-Volyhnia. I promise lots of chortles over the laws that country would pass if independent. Mel Gibson's Dad would feel right at home there, and so would most Sedevacantists.

    Russia may not have to do jack. It may just sit back and wait for the IMF/EU/US pressure to work it's magic on the already shitty living standards of Ukraine.

    Of course, when the Ukies finally realize they have a government of foreign bankers (they already know they're Oligarchs, but they're "Full of Hope and Change", thinking it will somehow work out if the EU/US is involved hahahaha), any unrest will be blamed on you-know-who.

  • On 18 Dec 2014 in Do Transsexual Women Make Better Wives? iWog's Insight Appreciated, thunderlips11 said:

    Here's another one.

    Blast all organizations as being exclusionary and muh soginist, but demand female-only spaces for yourself and your own kind.

    Call M2F Transexuals fake womyn who only chopped off their schlongs to invade womyn's spaces in order to violate real womyn, which makes no sense.

  • On 18 Dec 2014 in Do Transsexual Women Make Better Wives? iWog's Insight Appreciated, thunderlips11 said:

    Robber Baron Elite Scum says

    1. Feminazi's feel like they are being invaded. Even though they invade a lot of men's activities and act like it's their right.

    1. Ask politely for inclusion in Skeptic/Atheist/Gamer/Whatever organization
    2. Get inclusion
    3. Ask for more speakerships/event control
    4. Get speakerships and event control.
    5. Make speaksherships and event control all about your vagina, including vagina pillows, draw a vagina, etc. even in a Chess Club or something that has nothing to do with Vaginas.
    6. Claim Sexual Harassment, Demand Sexual Harassment Policies. Demand a get a non-profit table, then use it to sell your personal business products for your own private profit.
    7. Get that, too.
    8. Attack the leadership and membership of the organization that included you, gave you a podium, and enacted the 'reforms' you demanded as muh sogniny. And double muh sogniny when conference organizers pull your table for being not a non-profit, and for selling unlicensed goods using stolen IP.

  • On 18 Dec 2014 in Pass the Cigars: US Lifts Some Restrictions on Cuba; Why Now?, thunderlips11 said:

    Rin says

    thunderlips11 says

    The real reason: The Cuban Exiled 1%ers want their hotels back, or the Cubans back in Cuba they claim to care so much about to pay them compensation + 60 years of interest and penalties.

    What about the other reason ... access to hot Cuban esc*rts for a fling, only 90 miles from Key West, now that's worth something :-)!

    Service, Quality and Price that's hard to beat.

  • On 18 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    Robert Sproul says

    That is the Azov Battalion. They are fucking Nazis.

    Straw Man says

    The picture you've posted has been debunked as a fake. If there are so many nazis running around and with camera in every fucking toaster nowadays, why the fuck do you need to post a Photoshopped image?

    Robert, the Nazi Flag is photoshopped in there. But everything else, including the two guys doing the Heil Hitler Salute and the SS N-rune, is not fake. Azov is full of Nazis and fascists, from Sweden to Italy, all announcing they are "Social Nationalists" to interviewers. As if switching the word order would fool anybody but a Khokhol.

    Here's a reburial of SS Nazi Volunteers being reburied with full honors and a priest in West Ukraine.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Ruble Rocket to Russia, thunderlips11 said:

    "We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down."

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Why Police Raids should be illegal, thunderlips11 said:

    If I'm not mistaken, people have been found in contempt when, as jurors, they tell other jurors about jury nullification, but that it's the first amendment to discuss it outside the duties of a juror.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Conservative Torture Lovers Based Policy on TV Show 24, thunderlips11 said:

    socal2 says

    Huh? We are moving on to Vietnam and South America now?

    Why not? You don't look at a perp's prior record when considering guilt or innocence?

    socal2 says

    Not saying we don't have room for improvement or that there haven't been any abuses. Just trying to put some perspective on all the ignorant (or dishonest) claims that America has somehow lost our soul or morality in our response to Jihadi cavemen since 9/11.

    WE haven't. The asshole politicians we have, have been jackasses for a long time.

    BTW, I don't think less of the US Military. Those few at Abu Gharib were coached and prodded by "Civilian Contractors" and every military on Earth has the occasional atrocity fuck up. If anything we have less.

    Of course, it was much easier to scapegoat a few hillbilly MPs from West Virginia, and let the "Civilian Contractors" off the hook.

    But the dirty secret about the people who operate in secret, is that they're just not that smart or effective. At least the operations side. The analyst side, composed mostly of expert PhDs both full time and contracted employees, are F**king brilliant. Everything that is going on now in Iraq was predicted in the CIA's and Army's contingency pre 2003 Iraq occupation plans - the plan that was dumped on arrival when Bremmer was rushed in and they sacked Gen. Garner.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    I don't see US troops there....

    I see American Capital Managers and ex-USAID/State Dept. Employees given citizenship in under 24 hours with no debate in the Rada posted to high positions.

    I bet there are Americans training the Ogres, for what good it will do against battle hardened Chechen police and military used to years of fighting with Wahabi raiders.

    The Ukr government will last until the EU/US/IMF package gets way too harsh. Then they will say "Better cold soup with the Russians, then under the bridge frozen with the Americans"

    You think the US/EU is going to buy 50% of their exports, mostly heavy equipment, that Russia buys?

    This is just Neoconlib deliberate chaos creation.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    look at the ruble...look at the new projected russian gdp...you don't think putin has anything to lose??

    Look at the Hryvnia, or the Ukr GDP.

    As for Russia, they're like the Chinese, they'll take a lot of pain today to screw an enemy long term.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Pass the Cigars: US Lifts Some Restrictions on Cuba; Why Now?, thunderlips11 said:

    CaptainShuddup says

    The Latin community in Florida have a political voice at the Cuban embargo status qua. Without Cuba being on America's shit list, then Cuban Americans are no more or less politically relevant than a New York Puerto Rican or Californian Mexican.

    The real reason: The Cuban Exiled 1%ers want their hotels back, or the Cubans back in Cuba they claim to care so much about to pay them compensation + 60 years of interest and penalties.

    They want to connect sanction removal with compensation.

    They especially don't want Bally's and other Casino/Hotel businesses buying their former properties and outgunning them in a US-based lawsuit.

    Most other Cubans just want to visit their family and support them. The AEI 1%er Mafia-pal Cubans want even more money.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    there's no difference as far as the outcome.

    the invading party loses.

    thunderlips11 says

    SoftShell says

    with NATO weapons, this will be a russkie/afghanistan rerun...

    How do you know it won't be a Vietnam Rerun?

    Yep.

    Stay the hell out of Donbass.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    FortWayne says

    Liberals are failing us all over again, as they always did.

    Again, funny how sanctions didn't do shit against Castro since 1961, but sanctions are gonna topple Putin any day now.

    Dumbass Neconlibs don't understand, people who ate rats for hundreds of days don't surrender if they can't get Parm cheese.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    SoftShell says

    with NATO weapons, this will be a russkie/afghanistan rerun...

    How do you know it won't be a Vietnam Rerun? All the TV guided bombs and M-16s didn't save the day there.

    Spetznaz and old Afghan Fighters with AK-47s and old Museum Pieces from 50-70 years ago will kick the shit out of untrained conscripts with M4s and counter-mortar radars.

  • On 17 Dec 2014 in Tripping point: Here come the weapons., thunderlips11 said:

    The dumbasses forgot the key element from any Civilization game:

    "Our words are backed with nuclear weapons."

    The Neolibcons will fight to the last Khokhol, and those morons who have fucked up every country they've intervened in for more than two decades, think that Russia is some wimpy 3rd world country. Putin's popularity was last this high when the Americans pushed Shakashvilli to invade South Ossetia.

    By the way, anybody notice sanctions didn't work on Cuba, but are magically gonna work on Russia? Tee hee!

  • On 16 Dec 2014 in Conservative Torture Lovers Based Policy on TV Show 24, thunderlips11 said:

    socal2 says

    "One could quibble about whether these practices were "EXACTLY" like the techniques practiced by CIA interrogators."

    Yes, one could quibble - the difference is apparently over having the tortured people's legs up or not.socal2 says

    When the Japs weren't busy raping Nanking, they were beating, burning, beheading, starving and water-boarding low level POW's with no possible intelligence info, but did it just for fun.

    CIA did it just for fun too. In the report there's a bit about a guy who kept being tortured even though he would jump up on the table like a dog when the torturer snapped, and they knew most of his shit was useless or made up crap that he thought they wanted to hear.

    People who torture for a living are seldom psychologically healthy.

    It was also in the report about the repeated torturing of a multitude low level "footsoldiers" who didn't know shit, that the CIA knew were footsoldiers, and never got any useful info from. The tortures continued for months and years anyway.

    We know the CIA tortured in Operation Phoenix, and we know "interrogation" techniques were taught at the School of the Americas, and that School of the Americas alumni were identified as torturers and assassins from countless Truth Commissions that were held after the dictatorships they supported collapsed.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/12/brazil-torture-report_n_6310674.html
    http://www.soaw.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=343
    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/soa/uruguay.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

    It's also why... there were no CIA Black Sites in South America during the GWOT
    http://www.juancole.com/2013/02/torture-america-grandin.html

    There's nothing new about the USG torturing people.

  • On 16 Dec 2014 in Sorry, Putin. Russias economy is doomed, thunderlips11 said:

    There's so many angles to the anti-Russian crusade. Here are a few, maybe others can think of more:

    1. Make an "Example" of a state that is trying to do away with the Petrodollar, and weaken it's dependence on the USD as a message to all the BRICS
    2. Since Americans are now leery of intervention in the Middle East, open up a new Front in Eurasia for sabre-rattling
    3. The long "Zbig" plan of dismembering Russia into petty oligarchies easily bribed and controlled by Wall St/City Interests.

    4. A means of reigning Russia in by other methods, since Russia has no real debt to speak of.

    It doesn't seem to be working; none of the fellow BRICS are interested in punishing Russia. China explicitly recognized the Crimean Return, and why not? Their claim on Formosa/Taiwan is in the same category.

    In fact, Western Sanctions on Russia only benefit China in the long term. It makes their relationship with Russia stronger, and directs more energy resources from European destinations to Chinese ones. Military Tech transfer as well. It also benefits India and Brazil, which are ag exporters par excellence.

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