Besides if they accepted God, they wouldn't be homosexuals in the first place, chasing down young boys for their sick pleasures.
By that "logic" a priest would be the benchmark for someone who has accepted God. As such priests would NEVER be a homosexual and NEVER be caught "chasing down young boys for their sick pleasures".
I wonder if as a child, Forthood got jealous when the priest he was blowing dumped him for a prettier altar boy instead. Scorned and angry, Forthood left Catholicism for a more hateful denomination, and thus ignores the example of the Pope.
Again, if someone Forthood doesn't Ignore can get him to name which "College" he claims to have attended, it will be possible to check whether they really teach what he claims, and whether they get government funding.
Meanwhile, notice Kim Davis got married to three different men but had kids with only one of them (and he was not her husband at the time). So, with 2/3 of her husbands, she had no kids, even though she's obviously fertile. If the photos and videos are any indication, she's not exactly the prize pig at the fair, so who are those guys getting married to her? Forthood. And to the surprise of no one, she and her current husband (who is not the father of her kids) are registering as Republicans, specifically so they can have the power to impose their religious strictures on others through force of law. Larry Craig, Jerry Sandusky, Dennis Hastert, Florida Rep. Foley, Ted Haggard, George Rekers, and others are not the exceptions: they are part of a pattern, wherein closet cases and their scared wives account for half the Republican primary voters and probably a substantial share of religious fundamentalists worldwide. These religions spread by reproduction, violence, and lies, not persuasion; so, Forthood can continue lying all day long and expect his omnipotent ego extension to reward him for that.
Her insurance has cast its vote.... and it isn't in her best interest. She opted to pay for it herself....
That is by design, and typical. But hey - if she couldn't afford to pay for the surgery that she needed, she could have opted for the insurance surgery, and then if she felt depressed about the consequences, she could get a lifetime supply of toxic placebos. As an added bonus, after the insurance hysterectomy, she wouldn't have to worry about the teratogenic SSRIs causing autism and developmental delays. Learning to love Obamacare is all about seeing the glass half full.
curious2 - Did you see this piece earlier this year?
I hadn't seen that, but there has been very interesting work establishing links between intestinal bacteria and mood, and an experimental device to manage intestinal bacteria and thus treat depression. (Of course, Obamneycare would tax the device, to subsidize the SSRI prescriptions...)
I remember learning about this in College and being completely terrified....
What "College" was that?
I am genuinely curious about this, and Forthood won't answer because he Ignores me. If someone he doesn't Ignore might ask him, or if anybody can remember him posting, I would like to know. I suspect that the guaranteed student loan program becomes (along with religious organizations' tax exempt status) a mechanism by which government is used to subsidize religious indoctrination rather than education. Forthood lies endlessly, but he seems genuinely to believe his ignorant comments about Roman history, and I wonder if those result from his own "terrified" misreading or deliberate manipulation or both. Certain Vatican-dominated institutions have been notorious for producing phony sophistry dressed up in the guise of science, and I wonder if they have been trying to revise history the same way, or if this came from one of the newer competitors (Oral Roberts "Liberty" "University" etc.).
The current perpetrators of horrible religious violence in the news tend to be Muslim, though it's worth remembering that GW Bush called his Iraq invasion "a crusade," and the terrible cruelty of Christian violence going back to the actual Crusades. Because religion seems to displace natural morality and natural law, it enables horrible psychopathy with cruel consequences. The OP documents a few extreme examples, but we see everyday lying and thievery in the name of religion; so long as the believers tithe they are rewarded with promises of everlasting joy.
his feeling powerless in the face of changes which make him deeply uncomfortable. But that's not quite the same as desiring power.
I think there is at least 80% overlap, as the linked video in Dan's epiphany thread explained. If you look at the exit polls on Prop H8, religion was by far the biggest predictor of voting patterns: more than 80% of Evangelicals voted to amend the state constitution to stop same-sex couples from getting married, while more than 80% of agnostics and atheists voted to allow same-sex marriages to continue.
FortWayne ... (I'm paraphrasing, but it's nearly a perfect verbatim): my kids
I haven't noticed Forthood using the phrase "my kids," though he may have. Mr. & Mrs. Larry Craig have kids from her prior marriage, Mr. & Mrs. Jerry Sandusky have adopted kids. I don't assume any biological connection between Forthood and the kids of Mr. & Mrs. Forthood. Forthood is old but wrote that the kids are very small, so I suspect a younger woman who was divorced and couldn't find a husband settled for Forthood. John Birger's book Date-onomics goes into detail about the difficulties religious women are having in finding religious husbands:
1) women are about twice as likely as men to stay within the religion of their childhoods, i.e. 2/3 vs 1/3, and they want their kids to share that religion;
2) women tend to want to marry men who are older than they are, and men tend to want women who are younger than they are;
3) the millenials outnumber gen-x, and single millenials vastly outnumber single boomers.
So, a religious woman with kids has a difficult time finding a religious husband who can provide for them, and ends up settling for the semi-literate Forthood. So long as the proprieties are observed, Forthood (like Larry Craig) feels that he has a highly valued "normal" family united in holy matrimony, and is thus less depressed about his tearoom trade. Also, he can blame his homosexuality on having once seen a same-sex couple somewhere, "monkey see monkey do," so it isn't his fault, he's done everything possible to be "normal", and he can count on Mrs. Forthood's nearly canine loyalty to accept that story.
Forthood's fear of black people may relate to that image, too. If Mrs. Forthood has kids with somebody who looks like him, that's ok, maybe even advantageous, but if she has kids with a black guy, then the image would be destroyed and Forthood would be humiliated.
BTW, notice also Kim Davis, the most famous county clerk in America. She got married to three different men but had kids with only one of them (and he was not her husband at the time). So, with 2/3 of her husbands, she had no kids, even though she's obviously fertile. If the photos and videos are any indication, she's not exactly the prize pig at the fair, so who are those guys getting married to her? Forthood. And to the surprise of no one, she and her current husband (who is not the father of her kids) are registering as Republicans, specifically so they can have the power to impose their religious strictures on others through force of law.
hits a "disgust" nerve in the brains of lots of people,
The same could be said of elderly marriage, or even when current Americans think of their own parents having sex. (It's amazing to contrast modern Americans' taboo about that with the views of other cultures where whole families live in small shelters, and other species nearly related to us that live in the open air.) That "disgust" (etymology from French, "distaste") doesn't cause them to demand that the government refuse to recognize the marriages of their parents or grandparents.
i can't come up with any explanation for gayness which fits with evolution....
That's because most "nature" programs on TV depend on government funding and have been deliberately censored to avoid controversy; if you read instead of watch, you can see a lot more. One clue that might help you figure it out: around the world, the most consistent predictor of male homosexuality is birth order; for every son a woman has, the probability of the next son being gay increases by 1/3. It may have the effect of moderating Malthusian boom-and-bust cycles in population, as well as reducing the risk of violent conflict over scarce resources (in this instance, attractive females). Also consider the stereotypical childless uncles and godparents who give gifts: in the modern era of plenty, these gifts are merely surplus, but back when humans were barely surviving, they could mean the difference between life and death. If you limit your view of evolution to "the next generation," then you are putting blinders on that nature does not; evolutionary time scales work at the level of the "nth generation," i.e. the grandchildrens' grandchildren and later generations yet unborn. A species with too short a strategy would never have got this far, which is consistent with the fact that all the species nearly related to us (and even quite distant relatives like penguins) include homosexuality.
In America though, we tend to see closet cases like Larry Craig, Jerry Sandusky, Dennis Hastert, Florida Rep. Foley, Ted Haggard, George Rekers, and Forthood (see his comments above in this thread, and spewed everywhere on PatNet) and their scared wives, for whom everything depends on maintaining the stigma and taboo. Forthood flagellates himself publicly on PatNet for his sinful thoughts, which return to him every day.
Dan said once that closet cases are half the Republican party, and I think if you include the scared wives that's accurate. That's enough to drive a primary nominating process, which is how Michelle Hucksterbee got to be a governor and continues a very profitable career. It's also enough to scare PBS into censoring its "nature" programming, to conform to Hucksterbee's religious narrative, just as ISIL destroys evidence of other religions in order to present Islam as the only one. No matter how good or logical a computer programmer you might be, you will probably never match the riches or influence of Michelle Hucksterbee, exploiting the fears of Mr. & Mrs. Forthood, whose marriage is otherwise held together only by their shared enthusiasm for flatulence.
The illegitimate Pope want's to Obamacare Global Warming
Of all the questions I could ask, I'll limit myself to one: what in your opinion makes this particular Pope illegitimate? Was he born in Kenya, or is he secretly a Muslim? Does he need to smother Nazinger with a pillow in order to achieve legitimacy?
So, like many religions, it says enough contradictory things that people can quote whatever they want to use as "justification" for whatever they want to do. 'It's peaceful, let millions of believers into Europe' and then 'it commands believers to kill!"
Why aren't greedy capitalists raising the prices of food until you can barely afford it?
I'm amazed by how people think.
I'm disappointed by how some people fail to think clearly, even those who call themselves students of Herclitus (maybe that's part of the problem actually, you should study Socrates instead).
There are few barriers to entry in the food market. If you want a sack of potatoes, you don't need to pay a government licensee for permission to buy a specific type of potato, and then pay another government licensee to count out the precise number of potatoes you have permission to buy. Anybody with a yard can produce food, although, as Dylan wrote, "I can see the day coming when even your home garden Is gonna be against the law." That has happened in the drug sector, as part of a larger policy strategy to maximize prices. It has not happened (yet) in food, although some have reportedly tried.
SNAP benefits cost $74.1 billion in fiscal year 2014
Government medical spending cost 20x that. Also, total medical spending cost 10x more than food. Working people depend on SNAP partly because much of what should be their wage income gets diverted instead to mandatory medical insurance "benefits".
I think you mean, "Caricatures of the Three Abrahamic Religions."
[Updated - see below] Islam hasn't usually singled out Judaism for intense hatred. Islam seeks to eliminate all other religions equally, which can tend to produce hateful conflicts with whoever lives nearby (e.g. Hindus, and remember the Taliban destruction of Buddhist statues, and ISIL belatedly destroying a temple of Baal). Khomeini singled out America as "the great Satan" primarily due to American culture, secondarily American support for Israel (and Zionism isn't the same thing as Judaism). Khomeini wrote similarly of American culture to the way P N Dr Lo R and "Christian conservatives" write, i.e. that western cultural liberty threatens religious indoctrination of youth.