comments by Dan8267

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sun, 7 Feb 2016, 11:37am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 1

FortWayne says

What liberals want is equality of outcomes

I'm the hardest core liberal you'll ever met. I do not want equality of outcomes. I want equality of the playing field. How do you reconcile your Bizzaro World view of liberals with the living breath example contradicting that view right now?

FortWayne says

Dan, the family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

1. Gay Couples are a family and the are successfully raising children. See exhibit A.

2. There is nothing about same-sex marriage that even remotely threatens opposing-sex marriage. How exactly do you think two men who have been lovers for 40 years getting married is going to damage your marriage?

No one has ever called for the state to arrest heterosexual married couples. The argument that legally recognized same-sex marriages is an attack on opposite-sex marriage is as ridiculous and bigoted as the argument that legally recognized interracial marriages are an attack on same-race marriages.

FortWayne says

Homosexuality or promiscuity is not a "fundamental group unit of society", no one cares to protect or support irresponsible and stupid behavior. It's that simple.

Any real American cares about equality under law. That principle is the foundation of our society. Without it, we would have been better under British rule.

Way for you to piss on the graves of every soldier who died protecting the Constitution including the 14th Amendment.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sun, 7 Feb 2016, 11:30am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 2

That's the most coherent Sarah Palin has ever been.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 11:29pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 3

Oh, is baby upset because my putdown of him was good and his sucked? Either learn the art of the putdown or try being nice to people. Act like an ass and you deserve all the ridicule you get.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 6:45pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 4

Donald Trump wants to commit genocide and steal other country's natural resources because the annihilation of the Native Americans is what made America so great.

And all the GOP is pro-torture and think the Japanese soldiers who waterboarded American soldiers did nothing wrong. The Japanese soldiers who did this were executed for committing torture during war.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 5:21pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 5

Rin says

Since when was Sweden a paradise? Men take the causeway to Denmark to drink it up and bang hoes because that stuff is mainly illegal in Sweden.

In Sweden's defense, their fish are great, especially the red ones.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 5:19pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 6

iwog says

FortWayne says

The only thing you people talk about is equality of outcomes

That is such ridiculous bullshit, even from you. No one has ever uttered anything in support of equality of outcomes. If they have, link it.

Fort Wayne cannot support any of his delusional fantasies with actual facts. Of course no one has ever stated that all outcomes should be the same. People have argued that there should be an equal playing ground, a free market, rather than a rigged system.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 5:18pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 7

FortWayne says

Loving v. Virginia is not the same thing as two dudes getting married.

No two things are identical, but the principle that the court stated is the same. The state has no right to deny people equality under the law.

Cornell Law Department opinion of the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia.

Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment provides:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

These statutes also deprive the Lovings of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.

Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942). See also Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190 (1888). To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual, and cannot be infringed by the State.

These convictions must be reversed.

It is so ordered.

Replace the word "racial " with the word "gender" and no principle or logic is changed.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 1:39pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 8

P N Dr Lo R says

The communists of the 30's, David Horowitz's parents and their associates, adopted the name "Progressives" to disguise their purpose which was world domination by the Soviet Union and it remains so today even though the system has been thorougly discredited.

No sane person today thinks progressivism has anything to do with communism or the Soviet Union. The meaning of progressivism and the progressive movement is taught in every fifth grade history class. If you are confused, that's on you.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 1:28pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 9

FortWayne says

But freedom of religion is in the constitution, homosexuality is not.

We could always amend the Constitution to revoke the protection of religion. In any case, the Constitution does not have to mention homosexuality. It does not mention heterosexual marriage, but the case of Loving V. Virginia stated unequivocally that all laws prohibiting a white man and a black woman from marrying each other were unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment. You have not and cannot address this fact.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Sat, 6 Feb 2016, 1:25pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 10

FortWayne says

Your opinion is bigoted because you and your homosexual friends are anti-human.

Yeah, nothing bigoted or anti-human about the above statement.

To all the people defending Christianity, how do you reconcile that with the example of FortWayne? Why should we tolerate religion when the religious try to use state-sponsored violence to enforce their bigoted and vile vision of the world upon others?

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 10:41pm PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 11

thunderlips11 says

Here's the deal - the same people who lecture us about the need for security and snooping in all our phone calls and emails, and trying to restrict encryption, refuse to follow the procedures for basic email security with highly classified programs.

Wouldn't matter if they did. Backdoors for our government are also backdoors for all the foreign governments, terrorists, and criminals in the world, and luckily also for whistle blowers.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 10:37pm PST   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 12

Jeb Bush just wasted $133 million and is polling at 2.8% of the GOP vote. He's toast. The Iowa caucus is over. At this point, any Republican with less than 10% of the vote should just drop out.

Now Iowa has a lousy record for picking the winners, but if a candidate is at the bottom of the pool by the time the Iowa caucuses are done, then it's basically over for him since the primary elections have begun. The next four months are critical. It's during this time that most people will decide who they want to be president.

Surprisingly Bernie Sanders has done extremely well against Hilary Clinton. She was considered inevitable for the past four years and right now Sanders and Hilary are neck-in-neck. Sanders has a good chance of defeating her despite having spent a tiny fraction of the money she has, and all of his donors are average Americans not big corporations.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 10:05pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 13

Assange should rally the Swedish people to do to their government what the Icelandic people did to theirs.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 9:57pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 14

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

1. There is nothing wrong with promoting homosexuality.

Everything is wrong with it.

Oh you expressed a bigoted opinion. We should all accept it as a fact.

FortWayne says

Marriage is not a right, because you are not entitled to it.

According to both the Supreme Court's interpretation of the 14th Amendment in Virginia V. Loving, yes it is. According to the recent Supreme Court decisions, yes gay marriage is too.

Whether or not you think it should be a right is another matter. I don't think practicing a religion should be a right.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

3. There is nothing wrong with promoting drugs.

Everything is wrong with promoting drugs, once you grow past the rebelling teenage years you'll understand.

You do realize that pharmaceutical is just a fancy marketing term for drugs, right?

There is nothing special about illegal drugs other than that they are illegal, mostly for political reasons. Legal drugs are just as dangerous and often more. People die from these marketed drugs. People don't die from pot.

FortWayne says

There is no such thing as "nuclear codes". One man can't make that decision, it's all a myth bud.

No. It takes two. The president and his Secretary of Defense, which he appoints. Wow, I feel so much safer with Trump having that power and being commander in chief of the armed forces.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 9:49pm PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 15

We license guns, boats, driving, fishing, catching lobster, even barbers. Why isn't something as important as parenthood licensed? Well, of course, there are just fears that anyone with the power to prevent people from reproducing will abuse that power. But as several threads recently posted demonstrate, there are severe problems with letting unqualified and unprepared people reproduce. A license, a financial stability requirement, and completion of parental training seem pretty reasonable for the most important job you'll ever have. With 7+ billion people on the planet, we don't need more parents. We need better parents.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 9:45pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 16

lalalala says

How?

War

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 9:40pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

Ironman says

Dan8267 says

Not everything is simple,

There is one thing that is.... your brain.

Any decent brain would have been able to come up with a better put down. For example, CIC is very much in favor of cheap oil. He can never get enough anal lube when the circus comes to town.

You have less wit and less intelligence than a toddler.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 9:38pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 18

FortWayne says

I guess the health reasons don't seem to matter, Dan ignores info that is inconvenient. Back to that selective hearing again champ?

Marriage is bad for health? Yep, being able to file taxes jointly causes cancer.

You do realize that everybody has sex without getting married. Any health concerns you have -- which are bullshit anyway -- don't apply to the legal institution that is marriage. Are you really so fucking stupid to think that gay men are going to have any less sex because the state doesn't let them marry?

FortWayne says

Liberal media promotes homosexuality, drugs, and stupid behavior quite often.

1. There is nothing wrong with promoting homosexuality. It's not evil like Christianity is.
2. Liberals don't promote homosexuality. We promote civil rights for all including gays.
3. There is nothing wrong with promoting drugs. Have you seen a t.v. commercial in the past 40 years. Drugs are promoted all the time.
4. Promoting an end to the war on drugs and the legalization of pot isn't promoting drugs. It's opposing unjust laws that do harm but no good.
5. Anyone who thinks that Trump is qualified to have the nuclear codes does not get to talk about stupid behavior.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 12:37pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike (1)     Comment 19

zzyzzx says

Is cheap oil a bad thing?

No. Duh.

Is Middle East and South American instability a bad thing? Yes. Duh.

Cheap oil makes countries dependent on oil exports less stable. The world is a complicated place. Not everything is simple, linear, and immediate.

Dan8267   befriend (18)   ignore (15)   Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 12:35pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

PCGyver says

Actuall I did not say that. But what ever

Then write more clearly because it sure as hell reads like you did.

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