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You say potato, I say Tomato. There is by far way more conservative media out there, and of that media, most of it is commercialized and made to be intentionally ignorant. So cry liberal media till' the cows come home. I'd rather pay attention to liberal media rather than the swill pushed out by right-leaning right wing entertainment channels...
Uh.... the cartoon isn't really based in reality, but that's ok. There are something like over 15 million Americans who listen to right wing radio shows on a daily basis. if you've turned on AM radio these days, that entire band is DOMINATED by right wing talk shows, and of them, most follow the same formula of over-the-top, sensationalist bullcrap to the eagerly awaiting ears of its listeners. That is a HUGE number. We're only talking AM radio here, but the takeaway is that right wing media is enormous and has a huge sway in the general populace.
But like I said, I'd rather listen to media that has at least some degree of reality and facts rather than a bunch of parroted horse shit that the right wing entertainment complex has become...
finehoe
2013 Apr 3, 3:35am
The Associated Press, the largest news-gathering outlet in the world, will no longer use the term "illegal immigrant."
Big business, which owns the media, loves cheap labor. Mystery solved. Nothing "liberal" about it.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 3:49am
Fox News outright lies. The other channels don't do that. And my opinion of American news, save NPR and PBS and RT News America, is quite dismal. But nothing compares to the complete and deliberate misinformation of Fox News.
Also, Republicans want big government as much as Democrats. The only difference is Republicans want big government to spend everything on warfare and Democrats want to spend everything on social services. Republicans suck from the tit of government every bit as much as Democrats.
There are something like over 15 million Americans who listen to right wing
radio shows on a daily basis. if you've turned on AM radio these days, that
entire band is DOMINATED by right wing talk shows,
Over 21 Million people watch the network evening news each night. You know, networks like CBS that ran obviously forged memos trying to swing the 2004 presidential election.
http://stateofthemedia.org/2011/network-essay/data-page-5/
Many more get their news from wire services like AP, Reuters, Yahoo etc that are not really known for their conservative bias.
Throw on the major newspapers, academia and Hollywood - and liberals have a total lock on pop-culture and news aggregation.
Do you really think the fact that Conservatives are banished to AM freaking radio to get some of their views across is proof they have "huge sway" with the populace?
Bizarro-world stuff.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 3:59am
and liberals have a total lock on pop-culture and news aggregation.
If that were remotely true, torture, the Patriot Act, and the NDAA would be on the news every day. Yet such issues are never on the news. There is nothing liberal about our news media.
A liberal news media would be covering things like Julian Assange, Bradley Manning, etc. I think you're confusing liberal and left once again.
Do you really think the fact that Conservatives are banished to AM freaking radio to get some of their views across is proof they have "huge sway" with the populace?
There is a very good reason why conservative radio dominates the AM dial: Its a smart idea because demographically, a lot of conservatives live in rural, far-flung areas. Also from a technological standpoint, AM, or "Amplification Modulation" is far better at transmitting broadcast over greater distances, which is again, beneficial to the listeners of such media in far flung locals.
But I was using the AM radio example as a mere single example of right wing media and its empire, which not only has an enormous presence on radio, but TV and cable news as well. The fact of the matter is that right wing media is a HUGE commercial success.
I mentioned it was intentionally made to be ignorant earlier because frankly, most of right wing media follows a simple formula: Tell your listeners what they want to hear or want to at least believe and then follow that up with commercials that sell them products that are carefully considered for that demographic.
Its simple economics and I will give right wing media a healthy nod towards coming up with a simple formula that works and makes them a lot of money. But just because they're successful doesn't mean its a quality product. Most of it is crap and void of facts. So be it.
http://blackracismandracehatred.blogspot.com/
This site discusses far more important matters when it comes to the immediate safety of hard working, normal American citizens.
You will never hear about racist black on white crime in the mass media. The truth is too disgusting not to do something about it.
If that were remotely true, torture, the Patriot Act, and the NDAA would be
on the news every day. Yet such issues are never on the news. There is nothing
liberal about our news media.
A liberal news media would be covering things like Julian Assange, Bradley
Manning, etc. I think you're confusing liberal and left once again.
I am talking between Left/Right in terms of American mainstream politics. Not the moon-bat stuff where people are really concerned about traitors like Bradley or 9/11 truthers.
And you don't think "torture" and the Patriot Act weren't non stop media issues during the Bush administration? Google Water Boarding. Remember Abu Graib? That was front page news at the NYTimes for weeks and weeks. Remember all of hyperventilation about wireless phone taps? What about Gitmo and military tribunals? These were MAJOR stories all during the 8 years of the Bush Administration. Hell - Hollywood was cranking out shitty anti-war movies all through Bush's term.
Now that Obama is in office, we hear nothing about this in our Media despite Obama taking Bush war policies even farther (i.e. drone assassination programs, renditions, etc).
I think this further proves the liberal media bias since criticism like the examples above (and the anti-war movement) vanished overnight once Obama was elected in 2008.
...when it comes to the immediate safety of hard working, normal American citizens....
I can see a perfect picture in the background: some dude standing in front of his big honkin' pickup truck, looking wistfully up at the sky. Why? Cuz He's uh Hard' workin' Merican' dude and he's ALWAYS right too.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Apr 3, 4:54am
Fox News outright lies.
You want to know when CNN is lying? It's the articles that they don't use Disqus for the discussion feed. Every time they use CNN Sound Off, you can bet that article is from the supreme ministry of propaganda.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 5:00am
Fox News outright lies. The other channels don't do that
They all lie.
No, the thing is they don't all lie. They all spin, but only Fox lies.
There's a big difference between focusing on what you don't like about what the president or some politician is doing versus saying that person is a secret Kenyan Muslim planning to take away your guns and bring Sharia Law to the United States. It's not just a different league; it's a different sport.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 5:02am
. Not the moon-bat stuff where people are really concerned about traitors like Bradley
I would argue that it's bat-shit crazy to call Bradley a traitor. A traitor seeks to do harm to his country. Bradley sought and did good by exposing the harm politicking does so that we can correct it. Bradley out to get the Medal of Honor.
Our soldiers should serve our country, not our politicians.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 5:05am
And you don't think "torture" and the Patriot Act weren't non stop media issues during the Bush administration? Google Water Boarding. Remember Abu Graib?
I remember the media discussing the pros and cons of torture. A liberal media wouldn't do that any more than discussing the pros and cons of baby rape.
The media also kept calling it "enhanced interrogation". A liberal media would have the honesty to call it torture.
And yes, the media coverage of torture was very short-lived, but it didn't stop with Obama coming to office. It stopped for the most part a few months after it started. The OJ Simpson trial received more air time.
Out of 30-or-something AM stations in SFBA only 3 are right wing, at least 2 are as left as it gets and the rest are traffic/ethnic/musical stations.
Nah duh. Its the Bay Area. We're talking on a national basis. That said, the 3 right wing stations you mentioned also broadcast some of the most popular right wing shows.
But stepping back for a minute, I think the biggest problem I have with right wing media is that for the most part, its VERY different from more left leaning media. The formula is all about "those liberals!" and blaming them for basically anything and everything all in the effort to reliably polarize their listeners and viewers so they can be more reliably counted on to sell products to. Its really, really easy for people to place blame on something when it comes to their problems and whether the "thing" that is blamed is the boogieman, or liberals doesn't matter. Both would suffice if a news or talk show program were to repeat that "XXX" was the root cause of all of their problems. That's exactly how right wing media works. They dislike the notion of their consumers actually thinking for themselves and as such those consumers 'have' to use them as their source of "news" to inform their every decision. Its evident this is the case given that most any right winger I talk to tends to merely parrot back exactly what they heard on the airwaves or on the cable news.
I would argue that it's bat-shit crazy to call Bradley a traitor. A traitor
seeks to do harm to his country. Bradley sought and did good by exposing the
harm politicking does so that we can correct it. Bradley out to get the Medal of
Honor.
Our soldiers should serve our country, not our politicians.
Good grief? Have you even followed the Manning case?
The dude released thousands of document that he didn't even bother to vet.....including names and sources of our allies working with us at great risk against the primitive Jihadis cutting off people's heads.
He wasn't selectively speaking truth to power - he was just leaking all of the shit he could get his hands on.
rooemoore
2013 Apr 3, 5:26am
Republicans suck from the tit of government every bit as much as Democrats.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Apr 3, 5:49am
Every time they use CNN Sound Off, you can bet that article is from the supreme ministry of propaganda.
Case in point...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/03/obama-will-give-up-portion-of-his-salary/?hpt=hp_t2
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 6:07am
Good grief? Have you even followed the Manning case?
The dude released thousands of document that he didn't even bother to vet.....including names and sources of our allies working with us at great risk against the primitive Jihadis cutting off people's heads.
He wasn't selectively speaking truth to power - he was just leaking all of the shit he could get his hands on.
Which is necessary to give other people the time to pour over the documents. Nothing he released compromised security or caused a single death, unlike the lies told in those documents.
Which is necessary to give other people the time to pour over the documents.
Got it.
I think it is necessary for someone to steal all of your personal, educational, and financial information and post it on the internet to give us enough time to pour over the documents to make sure you are not a criminal or space alien.
Some of the leaks included informants names. You nor I know the harm that has been caused. The US government has every incentive to downplay the damage to preserve our remaining informant networks since they don't need to prove damage to send Manning away for the rest of his life which is what he is going to get.
Even the Taliban admitted they were going over the Wikileaks data dump to hunt down informants.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/taliban-study-wikileaks-to-hunt-informants/
And you want to give this mook the Congressional Medal of Honor? Insane.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 7:25am
I think it is necessary for someone to steal all of your personal, educational, and financial information and post it on the internet to give us enough time to pour over the documents to make sure you are not a criminal or space alien.
Like all conservatives, you have things backwards.
A private citizen in the privacy of his own home, vehicle, locker, person should have privacy.
A public official performing a public job duty for the public using public authority should not have privacy.
We should be able to record what the police and politicians are doing. They should not be allowed to record us in our private lives or go through our personal effects or person.
Some of the leaks included informants names
You're thinking of the Republicans outing CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose assignments were to stop terrorists from getting loose nukes, something that affects the very survivability of the human race. That's right, Karl Rove and other top Republicans endangered the entire world by outing the CIA agent who was stopping terrorists and rogue nations like North Korea from getting nuclear weapons, and the Republicans did it for personal political gain. That's treason.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/i-Sjjmb5AY0
Now one can argue, reasonably so, that Wikileaks should have redacted specific names before publishing the material. But to say that Manning committed treason or terrorism is ridiculous. Furthermore,
1. Manning's intentions and Wikileaks intentions were good. The Republican intentions were pure evil.
2. No one died from Mannings or Wikileaks releasing this information. No one. Over a million persons died, just so far, from the lies told by politicians over Iraq and Saddam.
3. A lot of good comes from exposing political corruption. No good comes from illegal wars waged with bad intentions.
4. Manning risked and lost much to do the right thing. That's the definition of heroism. The Republicans risk nothing themselves but risked our lives and well-being to do the wrong thing. That's cowardice.
5. The prosecution of Manning and Wikileaks has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with personal political gain and power.
6. If the human race destroys itself, it will be because of people like Karl Rove, not Bradley Manning. People like Manning are exactly what we need to make sure the human race doesn't destroy itself.
Anyone who says they support the troops but doesn't support Manning is a hypocrite.
You're thinking of the Republicans outing CIA agent Valerie
Plame, whose assignments were to stop terrorists from getting loose
nukes, something that affects the very survivability of the human race.
That's right, Karl Rove and other top Republicans endangered the entire world by
outing the CIA agent who was stopping terrorists and rogue nations like North
Korea from getting nuclear weapons, and the Republicans did it for personal
political gain. That's treason.
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
It was Colin Powell's deputy (Richard Armitage) that inadvertantly leaked her name. Armitage was hardly a neocon or Iraq war advocate. He even let Scooter Libby hang out to dry - further blowing a hole in your conspiracy theory it was all about Bush/Cheney and Rove trying to punish Joe Wilson and his wife.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.armitage/
Speaking of Joe Wilson - factcheck.org shows that it was Joe who was stretching the truth and not Bush.
http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_uranium.html
The rest of your post is just crazy talk about "million dead Iraqis" and dumb black/white thinking "Mannings/Good - Republicans/Evil".
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 8:50am
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
Unlike Republicans, educated liberals don't have such short memories. The outing of the CIA agent most directly responsible for making sure the bad guys don't get nuclear weapons was the greatest betrayal of America and the largest threat to America's national security in all of history.
You need to start getting your info from places other than Fox News and Conservative Radio.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ggs8lyBsFA0
http://www.youtube.com/embed/fXLnFRgO_Kw
http://www.youtube.com/embed/BCHZHFSYmy0
If you truly cared about American lives and national security, you'd be drumming the Valerie Plame drum, too. The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
The Stylebook no longer sanctions the term 'illegal immigrant' or the use of 'illegal' to describe a person
Partial true.. they are full LEGAL CITIZENS of Mexico. Honduras, China or what ever.
But that will do little to prevent these legal foreign citizens from being shipped back to
their native country.
Dude - you are not serious. Can't believe you are still banging the Valerie Plame drum.
Dude, it's called TREASON!
Do you you need more?
Uh huh - and who actually got indicted on TREASON despite having a special prosecutor spend years on this case throwing journalists and white house assistants in jail?
They found nothing despite their political witch hunt. Fact Check.Org blows apart Joe Wilson's lies about yellow-cake that started this whole mess in the first place.
The "leaker" was Richard Armitage who was Collin Powell's subordinate in the State Department.
There is no there there - except for the dwindling band of foolish troofers who really seem to believe that our country's leaders going back to Clinton made all this shit up about Saddam.
The rest of your post is just crazy talk about "million dead Iraqis" and dumb black/white thinking "Mannings/Good - Republicans/Evil".
yep... that Dan alright.. even though the count of the dead is only 100,000 with half being dead insurgents/ terrorists and Iraqi national forces. But what else do you expect from the propaganda machine ?
If you truly cared about American lives and national security, you'd be
drumming the Valerie Plame drum, too. The current crisis in North Korea is a
direct result of this betrayal.
Ha ha! You ARE insane!
I bet you paid good money to watch their movie starring Sean Penn.
A public official performing a public job duty for the public using public authority should not have privacy.
now compare that to Dans prior comments that Clinton's impeachment was a witch hunt and Billy Bobs actions were his business and no one else's business what Clinton did...
Hypocrisy..
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 9:33am
This thread is proof that nothing gets inside the conservative bubble. Bill Clinton got a blow job from a fat chick in the oval office. Impeach him. Karl Rove and the Republican leadership interfere with CIA operations preventing terrorists and enemy states from getting nukes. Stop banging that drum already.
'Nuff said.
zzyzzx
2013 Apr 3, 10:46am
The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
I'm thinking that the current North Korean crisis is FDR's fault. He's the one that decided that it was OK to give part of Korea to the Soviet Union.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 10:55am
And then the racist KarlRoveIsScum comes along and proves that there are batshit crazy people on the left as well in their own bubble.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 10:57am
The current crisis in North Korea is a direct result of this betrayal.
I'm thinking that the current North Korean crisis is FDR's fault. He's the one that decided that it was OK to give part of Korea to the Soviet Union.
Well, let's say that's true and FDR should have insisted on an independent Korea. FDR was still 100% right on the New Deal and the Progressive reforms. And isn't that, not Korea, what you really hate about FDR, that he was a progressive and he created the middle class.
Dan8267
2013 Apr 3, 11:01am
This Bill Clinton thing is officially O.V.E.R!
Is blaming Bush over yet?
People like Bush and Hitler who commit crimes against humanity should never be forgotten or forgiven. The negative impact they make on the world is never over, so no amount of time can erase their sins.
No person was ever harmed by Bill Clinton getting a blow job from that fat whore Lewinsky. In fact, plenty of people on both the left and the right made fistfuls of cash over this ridiculous scandal. And the fact that it still garners any attention when there are things so much more important in the word demonstrates exactly why America is a stupid, stupid country full of stupid, stupid people. No wonder Honey Boo Boo is so popular.
This Bill Clinton thing is officially O.V.E.R!
Is blaming Bush over yet?
Not until there is another repub president to blame...
Liberal: adj. 1. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Thank god for that liberal bias or we would all be lighting our kerosene lamps at night warding off vampires and witches.
People like Bush and Hitler who commit crimes against humanity should never be
forgotten or forgiven.
People who put Bush and Hitler in the same sentence as some sort of moral equivalence should never be given sharp utensils or be allowed to drive cars.
Why do you keep insisting on sounding like a total loon Dan??! It is just so painfully dumb when you say stuff like that.
Let's say Bush is responsible for every last death in Iraq since 2003 (roughly 100,000 people). Shouldn't that ledger be adjusted by the millions he saved in Africa with his massive HIV/AIDS funding?
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The Associated Press, the largest news-gathering outlet in the world, will no longer use the term "illegal immigrant."
The news came in the form of a blog entry authored by Senior Vice President and Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll on Tuesday afternoon, explaining that the decision is part of the company's on-going attempt to rid their Stylebook of labels.
"The Stylebook no longer sanctions the term 'illegal immigrant' or the use of 'illegal' to describe a person. Instead, it tells users that 'illegal' should describe only an action, such as living in or immigrating to a country illegally," Carroll wrote.