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1 New Renter   2013 Jun 11, 5:29am   ↑ like (4)   ↑ dislike (4)     quote        

Being boring is the best defense of all.

2 Dan8267   2013 Jun 11, 7:18am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        

New Renter says

Being boring is the best defense of all.

Actually, no it's not. There's always some asshole that has a grudge against you for some perceived slight. That asshole will make up stories and get your ass arrested. This is how we got the vast majority of "suspected terrorists" from Afghanistan. Assholes making shit up about their neighbors so that the Americans will take the neighbor away and the asshole then can take his goats.

3 errc   2013 Jun 11, 7:21am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        

Just don't do anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about.

That and avoid facebook and other outlets where people openly offer up pretty much anything and everything about themselves and their friends. For free. No, seriously, people do that lol

4 bob2356   2013 Jun 11, 7:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says

Just don't do anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about.

Like this. http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/29/mayfield.suit/ He's lucky the Spanish insisted he was innocent or he's still be in jail.

6 TwoScoopsMcGee   2013 Jun 11, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

We KNOW that police, DMV personnel, bank officials, etc. frequently use the information at their disposal to look up girlfriends, boyfriends, ex-girlfriends, ex-husbands, etc.

Why would NSA employees be any different? If they were caught, do you think the government would freely tell everybody, or cover it up to protect their datamining operations? "Listen, we can't let anybody know that Joe Schmoe the NSA contractor's employee spent 8 hours looking through the emails of his landlord who is trying to keep his deposit, trying to find some dirt on him."

We already know from other whistleblowers that government agents got off listening to soldier-wife / journalist-wife sexy phone calls and shared the "Greatest Hits" around the office.

7 Tenpoundbass   2013 Jun 11, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

errc says

Just don't do anything wrong, then you don't have anything to worry about.

Dude this is the Internet, we make up laws as we go along.

A woman as brown as football with a pasty white daughter, shows up at a tanning salon? LOCK her up and throw away the Goddamn KEY!

Father shoots his disrespectful daughter's laptop? Find out he's a judge then get him disbarred.

Guy duct tapes his son to the wall, the kid laughing like hell the whole time, snap a pic and put it on Facebook? Oh my God get the FBI to track that monster down and throw him under the jail!

Daughter rides in the back of the pick up truck with her dogs, a motorist snaps a pic and puts it on the internet?
OH THE OUTRAGE! How dare they! Who in the hell does that family think they are out joy ridding South Carolina mountains style, where every family who owned a pick up truck has had their kid at one time or the other ride in the back of a pick up truck.

Who needs laws when Crowdjustice will suffice?

8 RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Jun 11, 7:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

if you don't have a Middle Eastern last name you don't have to worry about any of these.

9 gbenson   2013 Jun 11, 8:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Mark D says

if you don't have a Middle Eastern last name you don't have to worry about any of these.

How wrong you are. I no longer have a facebook account because I once had a business associate who had a friend (who happened to be a police officer) 'check me out my facebook page'. He actually went through my facebook page, found my friends, used their system to get my friends contact info and called them, using some made up story. I start getting these emails from my friends asking about this weird guy and why I gave him their phone numbers..

They will use your information someday, because they can...

11 Heraclitusstudent   2013 Aug 5, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says

Also, if you use Tor, be sure to upgrade to the latest version of the TBB:

How do I know Tor is not sponsored by the NSA to spie on privacy-seeking dissidents?

12 Dan8267   2013 Aug 5, 10:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

sbh says

How do we know that Curious2 isn't actually Dick Cheney?

Cause Cheney's handle is DarthPuppyRaper.

13 APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2013 Aug 5, 10:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Call friends randomly and scream, "DIE AMERICAN DOGS, FUCKING DIE! Allah Akbar! DEATH TO AMERICA" over and over again. Then hang up. Like 20 time a day.

Append a document to every email with the words nuke subway sniper obama bomb death to america allah akbar.

End every phone call with the phrase "DIE AMERICAN DOGS, FUCKING DIE! Allah Akbar! DEATH TO AMERICA"

14 Ceffer   2013 Aug 5, 11:14am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        

New Renter says

Being boring is the best defense of all.

Stalin's rule of terror: you don't create terror by persecuting/killing the guilty, you create terror by randomly persecuting/killing the innocent.

15 someone else   2013 Aug 19, 11:48pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        

I had a contract job at a gay dating site once (hey, it was a good job) and was impressed that they simply did not keep log files.

So there wasn't much to turn over to the NSA.

16 APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2013 Aug 20, 12:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

One day a month should be dedicated as 'Talk Like a Terrorist Day' in which everyone would call friends on the phone and send them emails detailing embassy attacks, bombings, hijackings, jaywalking, etc and people on the street would be encouraged to shout anti-American slogans and their plans for blowing up Ft Meade, etc.

17 errc   2013 Aug 20, 12:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Call friends randomly and scream, "DIE AMERICAN DOGS, FUCKING DIE! Allah Akbar! DEATH TO AMERICA" over and over again. Then hang up. Like 20 time a day.

Append a document to every email with the words nuke subway sniper obama bomb death to america allah akbar.

End every phone call with the phrase "DIE AMERICAN DOGS, FUCKING DIE! Allah Akbar! DEATH TO AMERICA"

Don't forget cute young boy butt sex

That will really grab the interest of all those cocksucking freedom hating terrorists that cash checks from the us gov. They just can't resist their wantings

Allah akbar free crack cocaine and anal sex domination transvestite investment opportunity

18 APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   2013 Aug 20, 12:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Allah ass fuck Akbar! DEATH TO AMERICA!

19 mell   2013 Aug 20, 1:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Heraclitusstudent says

curious2 says

Also, if you use Tor, be sure to upgrade to the latest version of the TBB:

How do I know Tor is not sponsored by the NSA to spie on privacy-seeking dissidents?

You can check out the Tor source code yourself - takes a while and some programming skillz, but it works. That and only build yourself from the previously inspected sources ;)

20 New Renter   2013 Aug 20, 1:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Ceffer says

New Renter says

Being boring is the best defense of all.

Stalin's rule of terror: you don't create terror by persecuting/killing the guilty, you create terror by randomly persecuting/killing the innocent.

Sure, but in that scenario the boring are playing a numbers game whereas the interesting have likely already been dealt with.

21 Dan8267   2013 Aug 20, 1:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        


I had a contract job at a gay dating site once (hey, it was a good job)

And the benefits were great!

22 Dan8267   2013 Aug 20, 1:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

One day a month should be dedicated as 'Talk Like a Terrorist Day' in which everyone would call friends on the phone and send them emails detailing embassy attacks, bombings, hijackings, jaywalking, etc and people on the street would be encouraged to shout anti-American slogans and their plans for blowing up Ft Meade, etc.

Nay, if you really want to distract the NSA, have everyone have phone sex. Those NSA perves will be so busy wanking that they'll clog up all their keyboards.

23 Dan8267   2013 Aug 20, 1:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

"The problem is all inside your head", they said to me
Warrants are easy to get if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave the NSA

They said it's really not our habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope your files are particularly lewd
So I can wack off at the pictures, the ones where you are nude
There must be fifty ways to leave the NSA
Fifty ways to leave the NSA

Get your signal to piggy back, Jack
Get a pre-paid phone plan, Stan
Use code words that are coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Encrypt traffic on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just use your private key, Lee
And get yourself free

They said why don't we both just sleep on it tonight
We need to monitor every discussion to shed the light
On terrorist plots, but no gun registry, that wouldn't be right
So the terrorist can kill us with guns, but not with words of might
And that's the craziest fucking thing that's ever been in my sight

24 zzyzzx   2013 Aug 20, 2:23am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        

Dan8267 says


I had a contract job at a gay dating site once (hey, it was a good job)

And the benefits were great!

We want to hear more about this gay job that Patrick used to have.

25 curious2   2013 Aug 20, 4:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Heraclitusstudent says

curious2 says

Also, if you use Tor, be sure to upgrade to the latest version of the TBB:

How do I know Tor is not sponsored by the NSA to spie on privacy-seeking dissidents?

Tor sponsors include US Government agencies and grants, though not the NSA as far as I know.

mell says

You can check out the Tor source code yourself - takes a while and some programming skillz, but it works. That and only build yourself from the previously inspected sources ;)

That may be a good idea for people who have those skills.

sbh says

How do we know that Curious2 isn't actually Dick Cheney?

Because I think deficits matter.

The issue with National Security and spying is, while the agency tries to gather as much information as possible officially to protect us, the culture of learned helplessness makes us less secure. Back in the days of civil defense, Americans were expected to be prepared. It's interesting to observe the Republican party follow the NRA line about defending gun owners (actually manufacturers finance the NRA and the GOP), while ignoring the issue of vulnerability to hacking. Instead of thwarting strong encryption, NSA could improve national security by encouraging it, especially for banks etc. The fourth amendment matters as much as the second, and the first. What happens if the next NSA leaker sells backdoor keys to a hostile actor (state or non-state)? How secure is the currency if the banks or their customers can be hacked? In an information era, national security should build from the bottom up, with Americans and therefore America becoming harder targets. The opposite, a culture of frightened dependence, seems quite risky to me.

26 curious2   2013 Sep 27, 9:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Update: see also Dan's new thread and software :)

Also, you might want to create a dead man's switch, especially if you host a site.

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