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There's a reoccurring theme through out history.
That is, eventually every society gets tiered of hearing the educated elitist tripe bullshit, bashing national heroes and rewriting history, destroying a countries identity.
Not that I condone the idea, but I do understand why when Dictators born out of Nationalist pride, the top intellectual pompous pontificating windbags are the first to go in the lime bit heap.

We should horsewhip all of the recent revisionists in this country.
Now that I would condone.

Lincoln was Gay
David Bowie was a coward
Founding fathers were the 1%

blah blah blah!

The founding fathers have more or less become convenient and silent ploys for many people who want to try and put words in their long-deceased mouthes to support the idealistic interpretations of the US and its history. I find that the right are particularly guilty of this, having everyone believe that those dear founding fathers were humble, strictly Christian men who would surely go along with their idea when in contrast those very same men also included strict separations between church and the state. Truth is most founding fathers were deists, which was a popular movement amongst the intellectual and elite of the 1700's.

What a superficial understanding this snide bitch has.

One of the things she does is impose the mores of that time into the context our current culture. Which is misleading, but then again that was her intent.

They created the framework for the most workable country in history.

indigenous says

They created the framework for the most workable country in history.

EXACTLY. Despite America's relatively young age compared to Europe, America has the oldest and longest lasting constitution. All the while the rest of the planet's primitives were still stumbling through Monarchal, Theocratic, Tribal, Dictatorial, Fascist, Nazi and Communist rule.

Compare our enlightened revolution to the bloody massacres and mayhem of the French Revolution (let alone the various Marxist takeovers) any day of the week.

socal2 says

Compare our enlightened revolution to the bloody massacres and mayhem of the French Revolution (let alone the various Marxist takeovers) any day of the week.

You mean there was no blood spilled in your revolution?
You didn't have a civil war?

Heraclitusstudent says

You mean there was no blood spilled in your revolution?

You didn't have a civil war?

Not perfect just better than anyone else

Mark D says

what happened to my title?

Why, Mark, Ubiquitous Poster of all of Patnet, whatever do you mean?

BTW, I prefer to be referred to as "Your Highness." But "Your Heinie will do....

Heraclitusstudent says

You mean there was no blood spilled in your revolution?

Unlike the French and various Communist revolutions, our Founders were not lining up thousands and thousands of dissidents up for the guillotine or firing squad.

She's cute but I prefer RT's Lauren Lyster, what a hottie ;)

socal2 says

Unlike the French and various Communist revolutions,

Don't compare the French revolution to just any run of the mill communist revolution. All of Western history changed as a result of the French revolution. The American revolution likely would not have happened or at least not been successful if not for the visage of anarchy created by the Jacobins. It was the first realized modern revolution that sought control by people (no matter how misguided or self-centrist those people may have been) and undermined not only the divine right of kings but also feudalism and the power of the Church. It was a pivotal--if messy--outcome of Enlightenment thinking.

Philistine says

Don't compare the French revolution to just any run of the mill communist
revolution. All of Western history changed as a result of the French revolution.
The American revolution likely would not have happened or at least not been
successful if not for the visage of anarchy created by the Jacobins. It was the
first realized modern revolution that sought control by people (no matter how
misguided or self-centrist those people may have been) and undermined not only
the divine right of kings but also feudalism and the power of the Church. It was
a pivotal--if messy--outcome of Enlightenment thinking.

Actually - I think the MASSIVE violence, murder, class-envy and blood-lust created by the French Revolution was the template for the murder and genocide of the Marxist revolutions around the globe. The French revolution was nothing more than mob rule and it failed since it only brought on Napoleon.

The American revolution occured a decade before the French revolution and should have been the template for the rest of the globe, but sadly it wasn't and we have millions of dead bodies and broken societies as a result.

It's nice to see the French bitching about something, instead of criticizing other countries and fucking up their standard operating procedures until they are a miserable mess forced by the international community to change tradition that was instigated by the French.

Not that I'm a homophobe, but it does give me some respect for many of the French people protesting austerity, and the Gay marriage thing. It shows that at least for some of the French they are people with natural human emotions, that can think for them selves. Instead of just laying down and doing and thinking how ever the Euro socialist tell them.

socal2 says

I think the MASSIVE violence, murder, class-envy and blood-lust created by the French Revolution

This was always the template for any revolt. It didn't wait the French revolution. The only difference is the American revolution happened against foreign occupation, and that's a slightly different template.

Where are all your ideals now? Your congress is corrupted to the core. Corporations are buying laws and free to fleece you at will. Your 2 parties are doing essentially the same things, and that includes spying on you and treating whistle blowers as dissidents. Just wait your next revolution and we will see how you handle it.

Heraclitusstudent says

This was always the template for any revolt. It didn't wait the French
revolution. The only difference is the American revolution happened against
foreign occupation, and that's a slightly different template.

My only point is that the American Revolution was far less brutal and barbaric than the French and Marxist revolutions.

Night and day different.

Mark D says

what happened to my title?

check punctuation or other character. Colon perhaps ? Try substituting a hyphen or other notation that doesn't confuse the server software

"Enough"

NO!