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Jesus moved among the poor, and said that the meek shall inherit the earth.

Of course, he also said anyone who didn't believe in him would burn in hell for all eternity.

I'm not sure Jesus was the "great moral teacher" some people make him out to be. Clearly, he was a religious fanatic. He was more like Osama Bin Laden than MLK or Ida Tarbell.

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 1:02am

sbh says

I'll see ya in hell, Freak, my man. Do you think we can get NCAA BBall?

I'll settle for A/C.

Do you think we'll go to the Christian hell or the Muslim hell? I figure it's about a 50/50 shot.

Then again, IF the probability of a religion being true is directly proportional to the number of its adherents (argumentum ad populum), it's probably more like a 60/40 shot (Christian Hell/Muslim Hell).

Dan8267 2013 Oct 10, 2:05am

Blurtman says

Why should everyone else have to pay for your bad judgement? And for God's sake, please lose about 200 pounds. I don't want to be paying for your disability, too. If you are in a bad way because of an accident, or medical issue, that's one thing. But if you are behaving irresponsibly, then deal with what you have done, and quit looking for a hand out.

Agreed. There are many people who take advantage of the social safety nets and they do cost us. However, just remember that the irresponsible warfare industry costs you ten times as much as the freeloaders on America's social safety nets. For every welfare queen like this woman, there are many welfare queens in defense contracting corporations, and those queens cost a lot more to maintain.

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 2:21am

For every welfare queen like this woman, there are many welfare queens in defense contracting corporations, and those queens cost a lot more to maintain.

Yep. Plus they kill a lot of people, unlike the welfare queen.

14 Blurtman 2013 Oct 10, 2:23am

Agreed. There are many people who take advantage of the social safety nets and they do cost us. However, just remember that the irresponsible warfare industry costs you ten times as much as the freeloaders on America's social safety nets.

Three thumbs up.

HydroCabron 2013 Oct 10, 2:23am

Yep. Plus they kill a lot of people, unlike the welfare queen.

Meh. Brown people. Brown people outside the U.S.

Jesus doesn't care.

HydroCabron 2013 Oct 10, 2:27am

Military spending grows the economy. Social welfare spending does not.

Everyone knows that.

17 upisdown 2013 Oct 10, 2:31am

Blurtman
says

Why should everyone else have to pay for your bad judgement? And for God's
sake, please lose about 200 pounds. I don't want to be paying for your
disability, too. If you are in a bad way because of an accident, or medical
issue, that's one thing. But if you are behaving irresponsibly, then deal with
what you have done, and quit looking for a hand out.

Agreed. There are many people who take advantage of the social safety nets
and they do cost us. However, just remember that the irresponsible warfare
industry costs you ten times as much as the freeloaders on America's social
safety nets. For every welfare queen like this woman, there are many welfare
queens in defense contracting corporations, and those queens cost a lot more to
maintain.

Not to mention what is spent by the USDA to give to millionaire farmers. Here's an idea so that the whiners can actually bitch about something legit, instead on picking poor women and children.

Total USDA - Subsidies Payments $8,131,563,163
$8,255,869,060
$8,357,895,525
$13,303,944,390
$22,964,171,712
$24,740,234,687
$24,247,372,508
$14,068,373,158
$18,116,222,690
$15,341,958,208
$24,309,014,460
$17,035,215,324 $14,430,758,109
$17,032,492,997
$16,321,523,606
$15,364,353,500
$15,651,591,041
$14,875,494,329 $292,548,048,468

and the corresponding "recipients"

Recipients 1,336,234
1,570,744
1,529,392
1,458,747
1,634,585
1,901,965 1,880,186
1,705,592
1,836,511
1,456,500
1,546,398
1,481,848 1,391,051
1,454,211
1,323,049
1,279,295
1,243,212
1,194,844 3,707

and the linhttp://farm.ewg.org/regiondetail.php?fips=00000&summlevel=2&statename=theUnitedStatesk:

18 dublin hillz 2013 Oct 10, 2:38am

Military spending grows the economy. Social welfare spending does not.

Everyone knows that.

Of course! In fact there's now a thriving upper middle class in the suburbs of Khandahar! We have exported the best that america has to offer and now "they" will see that terrorism is no way to go through life. Talk about a return on investment...

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 2:55am

Military spending grows the economy. Social welfare spending does not.

America is a Christian nation. America is God's Chosen Nation. It's our God-given right (and duty) to kill the heathen abroad. And everybody knows that poor people are being righteously punished by God for their sins and/or lack of faith.*

*there are people in the USA who actually believe that. I know them.

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 2:56am

Jesus doesn't care.

Jesus *does* care. He demands that we marginalize/kill brown people, who are the cursed descendents of Ham.*

*yes, there are people in the USA who believe that too.

21 mell 2013 Oct 10, 2:57am

upisdown says

Not to mention what is spent by the USDA to give to millionaire farmers.

Here we agree on. However when I mentioned my opposition to those farming subsidies, the raging duck accused me of wanting to go back to the 1930s and have famine instead of feast. While this is a completely baseless claim and the subsidies (mostly for a couple of big farms) rather cause price increases over time (similar to section 8/minimum wage), I am waiting for the duck to lay its vengeance on you, but I have the slight feeling that this will not happen since I'm a wannabe paid shill for the Republican party and you are more in line with its general views ;)

22 upisdown 2013 Oct 10, 3:14am

mell says

While this is a completely baseless claim and the subsidies (mostly for a couple
of big farms) rather cause price increases over time (similar to section
8/minimum wage),

The overwhleming majority of subsidies goes to the large to very large farms, that don't even need it. What was originally a program to basically buy votes and and raise rural incomes has become a corporate welfare program that ends up in the agribusiness pockets that help lobby for it. An example is that for every $1 paid in crop insurance claims, it costs $3.34 to the USDA. And last year was a severe drought, yet a record net income for farmers. That's not just sucking on the government teat by welfare queen famers, it's uber-billions by every ag related corporation and business, and ironically the number of right-leaning or republican people that are farmers, or own/run those businesses is 99%.

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 3:23am

upisdown says

That's not just sucking on the government teat by welfare queen famers, it's uber-billions by every ag related corporation and business, and ironically the number of right-leaning or republican people that are farmers, or own/run those businesses is 99%.

Keep Government Out of My Subsidies!!

24 upisdown 2013 Oct 10, 3:25am

Keep Government Out of My Subsidies!!

LOL, that's the best one that I've heard yet.

25 mell 2013 Oct 10, 3:35am

upisdown says

An example is that for every $1 paid in crop insurance claims, it costs $3.34 to the USDA. And last year was a severe drought, yet a record net income for farmers. That's not just sucking on the government teat by welfare queen famers, it's uber-billions by every ag related corporation and business, and ironically the number of right-leaning or republican people that are farmers, or own/run those businesses is 99%.

Sure, I don't have the numbers on the 99% republican run big farms to validate (but I believe them to be high as well), but since Ron Paul is (and votes) against those subsidies this is another major opposition to the mainstream Republican party line in a major topic (another fact that was disputed previously in another thread).

26 upisdown 2013 Oct 10, 3:40am

mell says

Sure, I don't have the numbers on the 99% republican run big farms to validate
(but I believe them to be high as well),

He, he, I know from experience.

mell says

since Ron Paul is (and votes) against those subsidies this is another major
opposition to the mainstream Republican party

Yea, right up until he isn't. If his vote would be the LAST ONE to eliminate them instead of the ONLY ONE against them, somehow I don't think that he'd vote the same way. After all, he sees subsidies as bringing home the gravy, and he has no problem with that and has said as much.

27 Facebooksux 2013 Oct 10, 4:28am

Blurtman says

Why should everyone else have to pay for your bad judgement? And for God's sake, please lose about 200 pounds. I don't want to be paying for your disability, too. If you are in a bad way because of an accident, or medical issue, that's one thing. But if you are behaving irresponsibly, then deal with what you have done, and quit looking for a hand out.

Agreed. There are many people who take advantage of the social safety nets and they do cost us. However, just remember that the irresponsible warfare industry costs you ten times as much as the freeloaders on America's social safety nets. For every welfare queen like this woman, there are many welfare queens in defense contracting corporations, and those queens cost a lot more to maintain.

That is true.

You also have JP Morgan who makes millions "administering" EBT cards.

epitaph 2013 Oct 10, 5:13am

Class genocide is the only solution. Brb oilin' up muh AR-15.

freak80 2013 Oct 10, 5:19am

epitaph says

Class genocide is the only solution. Brb oilin' up muh AR-15.

Unfortunately, the NRA crowd sees poor blacks as the class that needs shootin'. Rather than our uber-wealthy overlords.

30 drew_eckhardt 2013 Oct 10, 5:37am

Unfortunately, the NRA crowd sees poor blacks as the class that needs shootin'. Rather than our uber-wealthy overlords.

No, we recognize they're people who have above average need to protect themselves from two legged predators and have Colin Noir (unofficially) doing minority outreach.We also oppose gun laws which will impact them disproportionately like bans on affordable guns and transfer taxes ($25 isn't much on a $2000 purchase, but represents a 33% markup on a $75 pistol).

RWSGFY 2013 Oct 10, 8:58am

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

epitaph says

Class genocide is the only solution. Brb oilin' up muh AR-15.

Unfortunately, the NRA crowd sees poor blacks as the class that needs shootin'. Rather than our uber-wealthy overlords.

Bullshit: NRA went to many courts to fight for Otis McDonald's right to personal home defense. Otis is an old black man of modest means.

Y 2013 Oct 10, 9:09am

This cannot work.
How can you tell when a morbidly obese woman's legs are open?

Is she married, or does she just lay down naked in a random cage at the zoo after foregoing showers for a month with her legs open and breed with the inmates?

Y 2013 Oct 10, 9:20am

Not really.
The government sees those dollars come back in tax form from jobs created by the corporate welfare queens.

For every welfare queen like this woman, there are many welfare queens in defense contracting corporations, and those queens cost a lot more to maintain.

Y 2013 Oct 10, 9:23am

Not to mention they are also being punished for not being born in the USA...