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Boy with toy gun shot and killed by Calif. deputies


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2013 Oct 23, 1:21pm   28,693 views  91 comments

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Northern California sheriff's deputies have shot and killed a 13-year-old boy after repeatedly telling him to drop what turned out to be a replica assault rifle, sheriff's officials and family members said.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/calif-sheriffs-deputies-shoot-kill-13-year-old

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1   Vicente   2013 Oct 23, 1:32pm  

You have the right to... BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM... remain. BLAM BLAM BLAM silent.

Trigger happy cops hard at work!

However, WHO THE HELL hands kids a replica rifle these days that's correctly colored? Look at NERF guns, nobody would mistake that for a real firearm. Craziness.

2   REpro   2013 Oct 23, 1:42pm  

He's not your son; aha...

3   Homeboy   2013 Oct 23, 5:04pm  

Vicente says

You have the right to... BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM... remain. BLAM BLAM BLAM silent.

Trigger happy cops hard at work!

What would YOU have done if you saw someone with what appeared to be an assault rifle, told him to drop it, and he instead turned around and pointed it at you?

4   Y   2013 Oct 24, 12:14am  

confront him from behind a wall/barrier/something, so you can at least extend the timeline and find out what he's really up to....
this assumes he's not threatening someone unprotected...
but the cops should be using shields or something during these kind of exchanges.
but who can blame them after whats happening with kids and guns the past year??

Homeboy says

Vicente says

You have the right to... BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM... remain. BLAM BLAM BLAM silent.

Trigger happy cops hard at work!

What would YOU have done if you saw someone with what appeared to be an assault rifle, told him to drop it, and he instead turned around and pointed it at you?

5   REpro   2013 Oct 24, 1:10am  

Homeboy says

and he instead turned around and pointed it at you

Nobody said he pointed gun on police. He was just executed by deputieS for not obey commend .

6   anonymous   2013 Oct 24, 1:34am  

Yet another example of how unions are killing this country

7   Moderate Infidel   2013 Oct 24, 1:35am  

F@#kn Obama's fault.

8   Vicente   2013 Oct 24, 2:16am  

Homeboy says

What would YOU have done if you saw someone with what appeared to be an assault rifle, told him to drop it, and he instead turned around and pointed it at you?

Scene: Hispanic kid walking to neighbors house.
Officer: YOUTHEREDROPURWEPNNPUTYOURHANDSUP
Kid: (Turns) What?
Officers: BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

Yeah I wasn't there, but some past incidents play like this. Adrenalin and post-action edit of reports can make it seem like things played out much longer than they actually did.

Who is more to blame, Obama or unions?

9   anonymous   2013 Oct 24, 2:35am  

RentingForHalfTheCost says

Simple solution folks. Don't buy kids toy guns. Problem solved. Duh

Even simpler yet, don't have a roid raging police state firing kill shots at innocent children

10   RWSGFY   2013 Oct 24, 3:46am  

Unintended consequence of outlawing open carry in California.

11   RWSGFY   2013 Oct 24, 3:52am  

Homeboy says

What would YOU have done if you saw someone with what appeared to be an assault rifle

Before recent ban on open carry it was perfectly legal to walk around with a long gun. Now, of course, if you see someone carrying a rifle he must be a criminal and treated accordingly. That ban surely made everyone safer.

12   Blurtman   2013 Oct 24, 4:04am  

We killed children in Iraq for no good reason. Why not here?

13   Shaman   2013 Oct 24, 4:10am  

So you can't carry a concealed weapon and now you can't carry one openly? Does that not constitute a ban on guns? I mean, you can own one, but not take it somewhere to use it? How is this constitutional? California law is illegal.

14   freak80   2013 Oct 24, 4:11am  

Blurtman says

We killed children in Iraq for no good reason. Why not here?

It's not as profitable here.

15   anonymous   2013 Oct 24, 4:20am  

Quigley says

So you can't carry a concealed weapon and now you can't carry one openly? Does that not constitute a ban on guns? I mean, you can own one, but not take it somewhere to use it? How is this constitutional? California law is illegal.

This is the same uber democrat crybaby state, that claims to be saving the little guy, from the republicans. They also voted themselves prop 13 lol

What a bunch of hypocritical retards

Only the union police gangs should have guns, the state have all the power. Then we will all be safe and happily prosperous

16   leo707   2013 Oct 24, 4:20am  

REpro says

Homeboy says

and he instead turned around and pointed it at you

Nobody said he pointed gun on police. He was just executed by deputieS for not obey commend .

The police are saying that.

From the article:
"Sonoma County sheriff's deputies had repeatedly asked the boy, Andy Lopez, to drop the weapon, but instead he raised it in their direction, police said at a news conference Wednesday."

Now the question is, do you believe the police's account.

17   leo707   2013 Oct 24, 4:21am  

Quigley says

So you can't carry a concealed weapon and now you can't carry one openly? Does that not constitute a ban on guns? I mean, you can own one, but not take it somewhere to use it? How is this constitutional? California law is illegal.

Yes, in California you can take your gun somewhere to use. However, it must be unloaded and in a locked container (FYI, glove boxes don't count as locked containers).

18   Ceffer   2013 Oct 24, 4:24am  

It was a legal retroactive abortion. Why do you hate progress?

19   rooemoore   2013 Oct 24, 4:25am  

errc says

Quigley says

So you can't carry a concealed weapon and now you can't carry one openly? Does that not constitute a ban on guns? I mean, you can own one, but not take it somewhere to use it? How is this constitutional? California law is illegal.

This is the same uber democrat crybaby state, that claims to be saving the little guy, from the republicans. They also voted themselves prop 13 lol

What a bunch of hypocritical retards

Only the union police gangs should have guns, the state have all the power. Then we will all be safe and happily prosperous

Your ignorance is magnificent.

20   Dan8267   2013 Oct 24, 4:25am  

Sonoma County sheriff's deputies had repeatedly asked the boy, Andy Lopez, to drop the weapon, but instead he raised it in their direction, police said at a news conference Wednesday.

Why the fuck should we believe the police when their standard operating procedure is to lie to cover their crimes and numerous times video evidence has proven that the police completely fabricate stories that do not remotely resemble the truth?

21   Homeboy   2013 Oct 24, 4:30am  

REpro says

Nobody said he pointed gun on police. He was just executed by deputieS for not obey commend .

That is not what the article says.

Sonoma County sheriff's deputies had repeatedly asked the boy, Andy Lopez, to drop the weapon, but instead he raised it in their direction, police said at a news conference Wednesday.

22   Homeboy   2013 Oct 24, 4:33am  

Dan8267 says

Why the fuck should we believe the police when their standard operating procedure is to lie to cover their crimes and numerous times video evidence has proven that the police completely fabricate stories that do not remotely resemble the truth?

I think police are quite capable of lying, but so far, nobody has questioned their version of the events, so I don't see any reason to disbelieve that the kid pointed the gun in their direction.

What is you reason for disbelieving that? That you don't think it's possible for a 13 year old to point a gun at someone?

23   Homeboy   2013 Oct 24, 4:37am  

Vicente says

Yeah I wasn't there, but some past incidents play like this. Adrenalin and post-action edit of reports can make it seem like things played out much longer than they actually did.

Some do, but some play out like the cops said it did. I don't understand how you're ready to convict the cops of murder before you know any facts about the incident. Are you saying that if a policeman shoots a person, he is automatically guilty of murder?

24   Homeboy   2013 Oct 24, 4:40am  

SoftShell says

but the cops should be using shields or something during these kind of exchanges

Yes, police should walk around carrying shields at all times and just let people shoot at them. Wow, you really are a fucking moron, you know that?

25   RWSGFY   2013 Oct 24, 4:44am  

Quigley says

So you can't carry a concealed weapon and now you can't carry one openly? Does that not constitute a ban on guns? I mean, you can own one, but not take it somewhere to use it? How is this constitutional? California law is illegal.

Some say CA legislature have set themselves up to a beating similar to what Illinois have received in courts. IL is now shall-issue state, CA could be next.

26   freak80   2013 Oct 24, 4:52am  

leo707 says

FYI, glove boxes don't count as locked containers

Awww dang. How am I going to maneuver in CA traffic now?

27   RWSGFY   2013 Oct 24, 5:29am  

freak80 says

leo707 says

FYI, glove boxes don't count as locked containers

Awww dang. How am I going to maneuver in CA traffic now?

The rule doesn't apply to crew-served weapons, so bring your GAU-19 next time you visit CA.

28   Automan Empire   2013 Oct 24, 5:39am  

I am no dead ringer for the cops, but in this case, what can anyone expect them to do?

I knew from a younger age without having to be told, don't even THINK about playing with a toy gun, with people who have REAL guns!

Have to wonder what the parents are like. "Son, here's a realistic looking rifle to play with around the neighborhood. Oh, also take this toy pistol and tuck it into your waistband. It is your right, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, not even the police!"

29   anonymous   2013 Oct 24, 5:47am  

I agree with the statist apologists, that for the crime of pointing around a toy gun, the punishment, for children, should be execution

30   Shaman   2013 Oct 24, 6:14am  

Homeboy says

Vicente says

Yeah I wasn't there, but some past incidents play like this. Adrenalin and post-action edit of reports can make it seem like things played out much longer than they actually did.

Some do, but some play out like the cops said it did. I don't understand how you're ready to convict the cops of murder before you know any facts about the incident. Are you saying that if a policeman shoots a person, he is automatically guilty of murder?

Are you saying that if a neighborhood watchman shoots a person, he is automatically guilty of murder?
Funny how you are all on the band wagon when a cop shoots a 13 year old Latino boy who hurt nobody, but you want the death penalty when a Latino man shoots an aggressively violent young black man! Aren't you even concerned about what race the policeman was?

31   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 24, 6:20am  

A good anecdote beats a 10,000-sample statistic every time!

As a human, I find I can draw all sorts of detailed and firm conclusions about society, the government, and how nothing is as good as it used to be when I was younger, from just one good horror story.

Who wants to argue over this one?

I'll start: we can't know what the police or the kid were thinking... blah blah blah... but if you disagree with me on the implications of this incident, you're a doofus.

Also: this incident provides support for my political preconceptions, regardless of whatever those actually are. If you disagree, you're simply a retard.

32   dublin hillz   2013 Oct 24, 6:23am  

At least the story could have ended well if he were to have received a sky burial via turkey vultures devouring his corpse and releasing his soul.

33   REpro   2013 Oct 24, 7:15am  

Automan Empire says

I am no dead ringer for the cops, but in this case, what can anyone expect them to do?

Have you ever heard about warning shut into the air?

34   Moderate Infidel   2013 Oct 24, 7:22am  

A pellet gun isn't a toy it's a gun that shoots pellets that can hurt people and put eyes out.
The adult that bought a replica AK 47 for their kid to play with should be shot repeatedly in the eye with it.

35   leo707   2013 Oct 24, 7:49am  

REpro says

Automan Empire says

I am no dead ringer for the cops, but in this case, what can anyone expect them to do?

Have you ever heard about warning shut into sky?

You mean a warning shot into the air? Bullets fired into the air do come down and at times kill/injure people. Warning shots into the ground could ricochet, and also kill/injure someone. There are also issues with trying to shoot someone in the limbs.

I am hesitant to believe a cops story unless it is backed by other evidence. Until more is known, I am on the fence as to if this was a tragic accident or trigger happy cops trying to cover their tracks with a fanciful Zimmerman style story.

36   leo707   2013 Oct 24, 7:51am  

Moderate Infidel says

A pellet gun isn't a toy it's a gun that shoots pellets that can hurt people and put eyes out.

The adult that bought a replica AK 47 for their kid to play with should be shot repeatedly in the eye with it.

It sounds like it may have been an airsoft gun. Also, the gun was missing the red tip identifying it as a "toy."

37   dublin hillz   2013 Oct 24, 8:03am  

If we ever lower ourselves to take the side of a 13 year old "teen" vs a respectable member of law enforcement community, we will aid in the destruction of free market capitalism and will end up one step closer to muslim socialism. The fact that muslims fought the commies in afghanistan in the 1980s is completely irrelevant and besides the point. No commie afghan puppet graves were ever dug up and desecrated, it was a false flag planted by communists.

38   Moderate Infidel   2013 Oct 24, 8:46am  

I'm an avid gun enthusiast but toy guns that look real are incredibly irresponsible. Kids shouldn't be taught that guns are toys.

39   justme   2013 Oct 24, 9:01am  

For those who did not see the video of police shooting a completely harmless man in Dallas, I refer you to another thread

http://patrick.net/?p=1230995

40   leo707   2013 Oct 24, 9:03am  

Moderate Infidel says

I'm an avid gun enthusiast but toy guns that look real are incredibly irresponsible. Kids shouldn't be taught that guns are toys.

Yes, and from what I understand it is illegal to have a toy gun without at least a red tip -- many are made out of clear plastic, etc. (as was the hand gun tucked in this kids pants).

I don't think we know why this kids gun was missing the red tip.

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