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Dan8267
2013 Nov 9, 11:25am
The Principle even suggested that my posture could limit female science degrees, and that most science degrees are held by white males?
The principle is racist and sexist and should be called on that.
Nobody in the scientific community gives a rat's ass about your race or gender. The laws of physics are the same in every country, every culture, every world. Science is the one true uniter that recognizes no political, social, or economic class. Throughout its history, science has been advanced by prince and pauper alike, working side by side.
Nor should it be the goal of any education system to try to increase the number of people of this race or that gender into a particular subject. That is simply bigotry.
True diversity has nothing to do with differences in skin color or genitals. True diversity is diversity of ideas, of approaches to solving problems, of perspectives. Any leftist who claims that an institute needs more diversity in terms of skin tone or gender is simply a racist and sexist bigot.
We non-bigots don't even think about the other person's skin color or gender any more than we think about the other person's public hair color or smell of their kidneys. It's simply irrelevant. And to think of diversity in terms of race and gender is just another form of racism and sexism.
Martin Luther King's words were
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
It is a perversion to twists these words into
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will be judged by the color of their skin but found equal.
This is where leftist completely miss the point MLK was making.
New Renter
2013 Nov 9, 11:55am
There should be far less emphasis on science in public schools and far more emphasis on business and economics. We don't need to encourage our kids to go into the sciences, the stagnation of wages and the rise of the underpaid yet highly trained perpetual post-doc should be ample proof of that.
Instead we need to give every American child the best possible shot at becoming a mega C level exec. Over saturate the market with millions of fresh young highly skilled business executives who will happily do whatever it takes to claw their way into the corner office including accepting lower compensation. Then stock holders can lobby congress to skyrocket the number of appropriate work visas because of a "critical shortage of C level exec talent".
Eventually even fortune 500 CEOs will be eating nothing but expired Top Ramen, living ten to a shipping container and working ever harder for below poverty wages.
Hey, fair's fair.
"Nobody in the scientific community gives a rat's ass about your race or gender. The laws of physics are the same in every country, every culture, every world. Science is the one true uniter that recognizes no political, social, or economic class."
I was shocked by this, but have heard other humanities majors use the race and gender card alot. Not sure why people use this to the extent that they do.....
Except if there is a perception that science is bad..
Dan8267
2013 Nov 10, 6:16am
We don't need to encourage our kids to go into the sciences, the stagnation of wages and the rise of the underpaid yet highly trained perpetual post-doc should be ample proof of that.
Unfortunate, but true.
Rin
2013 Nov 10, 6:33am
Over saturate the market with millions of fresh young highly skilled business executives
Unfortunately, those junior entry level jobs at management consulting firms, the basic breeders for C-level execs, is a tightly controlled swimming pool, unlike the postdoc world, which is open to every Tom, Dmitri, & Chong in the S&E world for minimal wages.
Thus, we need to bulldoze the HR depts at McKinsey, Booz-Allen, Boston Consulting Grp, Cap Gemini, etc, to lower entry level salaries from $65K-$75K down to $25K-$35K, and start recruiting from State Us only, not this Ivy League/Stanford/MIT/London Economics/Hopkins wage inflation camp.
Rin
2013 Nov 10, 6:55am
open to every Tom, Dmitri, & Chong in the S&E world
For the uninitiated, the above snide remark references western nationalities, eastern European, and Asian postdocs, all fair game for exploitation in the postdoc world.
New Renter
2013 Nov 10, 8:01am
Over saturate the market with millions of fresh young highly skilled business executives
Unfortunately, those junior entry level jobs at management consulting firms, the basic breeders for C-level execs, is a tightly controlled swimming pool, unlike the postdoc world, which is open to every Tom, Dmitri, & Chong in the S&E world for minimal wages.
That may be true today but with time it can be done.
Had you suggested to your average fresh out of college American aerospace engineer in the late 60's / early 70's that they'd be laid off and replaced with cheaper "Commie" replacements in the early '90s they'd have gotten a good laugh out of it.
Then they'd have called the FBI.
At our local Elementary School, they are commencing the Full Option Science System.
Last year however, the Principle talked to parents extensively about the schools dedicated Science Class. The Science class was help open for tours by the parents. It appeared good, and provided support for the sciences distinctly.
This year unknown to me, the School silently cancelled the dedicated Science Class, and only thru talking to people at the school did I find out recently that it is closed permanently.
When I talked to the Principle, I was upset, and she essentially told me without the Science class, the students were going to get more exposure to Science "mixed in" with the humanities. I could not believe this rationale. The Principle even suggested that my posture could limit female science degrees, and that most science degrees are held by white males? Is this madness - I was advocating to keep the Science class going, and getting rid of the Science class may reduce every students exposure to science?
I am shocked that the Science class which was a bragging point for the principle last year is gone. I feel as though the system is so big and powerful that they squashed my inquiring why the Science class was cancelled?
FOSS may not be on topic of this board, but other Threads have addressed education.