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Backlash by the bay


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2013 Nov 25, 6:08am   7,107 views  24 comments

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/25/us/backlash-by-the-bay-tech-riches-alter-a-city.html?ref=us&_r=0

If there was a tipping point, a moment that crystallized the anger building here toward the so-called technorati for driving up housing prices and threatening the city’s bohemian identity, it came in response to a diatribe posted online in August by a young Internet entrepreneur.

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2   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 6:28am  

I love it, the very system that gave the Liberals their voice, and landed a do nothing community organizer, who never organized anything of any notable significance that I've even been aware of.
Now threatens to implode the bohemian lifestyle of Liberal mecca.

This is almost as rich as the Boston Mass, Dems, that wanted wind farms on every hill in America, but pitched a first class kiniption fit, when wind farms were proposed to be built in Cape Cod.

Be careful how you stir the pot, you may have to eat with that spoon.

3   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 6:35am  

“They are not only expelling the homeless and the gangbangers,” said Guillermo Gómez-Peña, a performance artist. “They are also expelling the performance artists, the poets, the muralists, the activists, the working-class families — all these wonderful urban tribes that made this neighborhood a very special neighborhood for decades.”

“One day,” he added, “they will wake up to an extremely unbearable ocean of sameness.”

Of boo fucking hoo, welcome to America.
What with Official energy price manipulation placing a strain on every item manufactured, bought and sold in America, under an administration that refuses to even recognize inflation, let alone the hardships that their official economic polices or lack there of places on all socioeconomic classes in America. All the while distracting everyone with their goddamn 1% red herring.

What these bastards, thinks they are the only people who have been displaced and marginalized by this regime? Fuck at least the Folks on the bay voted for this Bastard, the people in the Red states didn't ask for this shit. You assholes did, so take your medicine Son.

4   dublin hillz   2013 Nov 25, 6:38am  

CaptainShuddup says

What these bastards, thinks they are the only people who have been displaced
and marginalized by this regime? Fuck at least the Folks on the bay voted for
this Bastard, the people in the Red states didn't ask for this shit. You
assholes did, so take your medicine Son.

What does any of this have to do with people voting for barack? The issue here is that techocrats are exerting their pricing power on those economically less fortunate who don't rank as well vs technocrats on the economic relative power index. Simply an issue of capitalism at work. What does any of this have to do with politics and voting?

5   CL   2013 Nov 25, 6:48am  

CaptainShuddup says

a do nothing community organizer, who never organized anything of any notable significance that I've even been aware of.

Just a few 50 state/multi-billion dollar campaigns, defeating the GOP crooks AND the Clintons. But you're right...never anything BIG like looting companies as Romney had. And Ryan? What was HIS notable organizational accomplishment?

Most businesspeople have never organized anything as big as a campaign. Maybe that's why they aren't good political leaders.

But yeah...what does this have to do with the article?

6   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 6:50am  

The difference being here, is experience at Governing.
Romney was a Governor after all.

Oh and so was that Sarah Palin character, and a Mayor too if I recall.

7   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 6:58am  

dublin hillz says

What does any of this have to do with people voting for barack?

Didn't he ride in on "I'm the social media president" wave?
Hmmmm? Didn't he? Then didn't he divert tax dollars to San Francisco to jump start Tech and Green tech industries there?
Hmmmm didn't he? Hasn't he given those tech companies every economic and tax break incentive that he dream up, just as long as they keep feeding his face to the public with official state media images of the first family.

I think he did, yup he did, and you guys fell for hook line and sinker. Thinking he would pony up some Liberal arts money, so a few bohemian hipsters could open a drag review theater troop in downtown San Francisco.

Placing Obama in a positive light, while robing Americans their privacy and freedom on the internet, is expensive business.

There just isn't any room for the Merry Pranksters, Poets, Starving Artists, and Activists in that Tech capital. You asked for it, now you got it.

8   edvard2   2013 Nov 25, 7:11am  

We really don't care what happens in red states anyway. They can have those states to themselves. We'll keep California, thank you.

PS: Appears that most of the red states are having temperatures in the 20's-30's this week. Nice and sunny here though, in our nice, warm, blue state...

9   rooemoore   2013 Nov 25, 7:13am  

CaptainShuddup says

There just isn't any room for the Merry Pranksters, Poets, Starving Artists, and Activists in that Tech capital. You asked for it, now you got it.

So you believe that the information technology wave that has engulfed the San Francisco Bay Area since the late 70s is exploding once again because of Obama? Yes, I'm sure there would be no Twitter, or Facebook or Instagram, etc, had Obama not been elected.

The bay area is a great place to live -- one of, if not the best in the country when you factor all variables. Except for cost of housing. Supply and demand, baby. That's something you guys living in swampland can't understand.

10   CL   2013 Nov 25, 7:15am  

CaptainShuddup says

The difference being here, is experience at Governing.

Romney was a Governor after all.

Oh and so was that Sarah Palin character, and a Mayor too if I recall.

You said "organizing". Unless Romney organized Massachusetts, I'd need some further explaining. And being a Governor doesn't mean squat---you would have to consider if the position has been neutered of any real power, or if the Governor actually did anything, or if she even finished her term. BEING a Governor doesn't make you good at Governing; being good at Governing makes you good at Governing.

Even if I bought your argument, and I don't, then you would have to believe that Obama is good at Governing the US, since he has been doing so for a while now (and was even re-elected, finishing his term!), and I know you don't believe that.

11   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 7:17am  

That's the spirit guys, suck it up and love the suck.
It sucks in SF California, but hey you guys won "TWICE", and yeah I'm over it. But you clowns will never be, by the looks of things.

12   edvard2   2013 Nov 25, 7:18am  

CL says

BEING a Governor doesn't make you good at Governing; being good at Governing makes you good at Governing.

Especially when the person being referred to wasn't even good at being a Governor by not even finishing a term.

Sorry, but this whole conversation is bizarre: So Obama is somehow being blamed for the outright economic success of the Bay Area? What about those red states? The ones that aren't doing as well economically? ( As in most of them)? Are they the models that we in California should instead look up to? Somehow I'm not getting it...

13   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 7:20am  

So you acknowledge that Obama sucked at being a Senator before he bailed and became a crappy President?

14   dublin hillz   2013 Nov 25, 7:21am  

CaptainShuddup says

That's the spirit guys, suck it up and love the suck.
It sucks in SF California, but hey you guys won "TWICE", and yeah I'm over it. But you clowns will never be, by the looks of things.

Certain parts of the country excel at specific things. For instance, nyc has wall street, so. cal has hollywood and SFBA has high tech. These regions have "core competencies" that facilitate this development. I have not seen any evidence that any of this stems from politics of area residents.

15   edvard2   2013 Nov 25, 7:26am  

bgamall4 says

at least California isn't overrun with snakes and alligators and bugs

And humidity, miserably hot weather, hurricanes, poor beer choices, sheer boredom, and seas of big box stores.

16   anonymous   2013 Nov 25, 7:30am  

I love the excerpt:

On the day of Twitter’s public offering this month, 150 demonstrators protested outside the company with signs reading “People not profit” and “We’re the public, what are you offering?”

Basically what they're saying is "You're all rich...what free stuff will you give us?"

17   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 7:32am  

dublin hillz says

I have not seen any evidence that any of this stems from politics of area residents.

DO you really want to stand by that?

Miami is steeped in Cuban social club politics, you can't even get a job at the city if you don't wear a guayabera that three generations before you wore, on Calle Ocho and won a few Domino completions in.

Miami is the Latin American hub, but all Latin Americans not Cuban must stop and kiss the Cuban Mafia, ring before your business gets approved.

City Politics is only second to Federal, State politics is just a side show so the other districts in your state don't get bent out of shape about another successful city in their state. Well there's that, then there's property taxes, they need to squeeze out of those districts to fund the show in those "specific things" that certain cities excel at, as you put it.

18   CL   2013 Nov 25, 7:37am  

CaptainShuddup says

So you acknowledge that Obama sucked at being a Senator before he bailed and became a crappy President?

Yes. That must be it! That's why he was heavily scrutinized, was re-elected in his state offices, and won his US Senate seat by the largest margin in Illinois history. Because nobody knows this guy with a long career. That's why they re-elected him to the highest office in the country.

What a charlatan!

19   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 7:43am  

When you have facebook and twitter choosing the opposition, by smearing all other contenders but Romney, it was in the bag after the straw polls. My god man have you not been listening?

20   CL   2013 Nov 25, 7:55am  

CaptainShuddup says

When you have facebook and twitter choosing the opposition, by smearing all other contenders but Romney, it was in the bag after the straw polls. My god man have you not been listening?

Ohhh...That makes more sense. Social Networking laid it all out for O, even back when he beat McCain, or Jack Ryan! And Ryan's naughtiness wouldn't have even been found out, had it not been for the Facebookings!

21   dublin hillz   2013 Nov 25, 7:59am  

CaptainShuddup says

and twitter

Did facebook and twitter smear playa cain who is probably the only one who significantly matched up better than mr bain? I doubt it.

22   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 25, 8:39am  

OH I see, so every thing is just fine and Dandy in SF, so what in the hell are ya'll bitching about then?

Eat your shit sandwich and STFU then. ...as long as Obama is making it and all..

24   drew_eckhardt   2013 Nov 25, 8:49am  

It's the government's fault for caving to corporatist interests which oppose free market capitalism, like house owners who want to limit density and landlords who want to preserve their profit margins.

Get rid of zoning limits which restrict density, let people replace single-family homes with low-rise apartment buildings, let companies replace low-rise buildings with high-rise, and you'd get a _LOT_ more than the 120 new housing units this year and 6000 new rentals next year to go with 68,000 new jobs like we got last year.

With enough additional units housing prices would drop to fit peoples' budgets although they might not be happy with how much space (indoors and outdoors) and common wall/ceiling/floor they get compared to places where people don't want to live and land is nearly free.

There is no other path to affordable housing in places people want to live because anything you do legislatively making some housing stock affordable to some people (those who moved in first and got rent control or those who are poor and get low income housing) reduces the supply (or its rate of increase in the case of new units designated low income) and increases prices for other people.

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