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2013 Dec 20, 5:07am   21,153 views  96 comments

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And the network execs couldn’t stand it, bowing instantly to the gay agenda as practiced by GLAAD. Free markets have nothing to do with TV. It’s all now about not offending some victim group.

And it’s not about free speech either. TV networks want nothing to do with that archaic concept. They only support free speech they agree with and that most diehard lefties approve.

The conflict was inevitable. Television used to love people from what the media call flyover country. TV scored with hits such as “The Beverly Hillbillies,” “Green Acres,” “Hee-Haw,” and “Mayberry RFD.” Those were celebrations where Americans were reminded of their roots. And when country met city, it was always country that won out with homespun wisdom triumphing over big-city egos and fancy degrees.

But “Duck Dynasty” comes from another era where TV doesn’t celebrate ordinary people, it mocks them. This is the time of “Honey Boo Boo,” and “Buckwild,” the “Jersey Shore” style shows about rural people. These programs were designed so coastal liberals could watch and mock and feel better about themselves while reading their New York Times. That’s likely what A&E bosses thought they had with “Duck Dynasty.”

Boy, were they wrong.

A&E created a show that tried to make fun of rustic rubes and discovered it had inadvertently created the opposite. Instead of Hollywood values triumphing as we watched the stars’ backward ways, traditional values won out every time. They weren’t Obama’s bitter clingers. They cared for each other and kept their faith close. Each episode even ended in a family prayer. Before network execs could try to figure out what John 3:16 meant, they had created a program where faith, family and freedom ruled.

And it became wildly popular.

The bearded stars soon were everywhere, with promotions seemingly in every store. That success didn’t matter. The network still wanted to rein in its stars. Back in April, Phil Robertson said the network had even wanted to delete mentions of “Jesus” from the family prayer, trying to bleep the Savior like He was a four-letter word.

A&E didn’t want its high-profile stars mentioning Jesus. And it sure didn’t want them saying anything else out of the Bible. When Phil did, GLAAD cried foul and that was it.

Before anyone calls FOX talking points, Almost all of the above what this article stated about DD, I posted last year as my exact thoughts on the show.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/19/ae-goes-duck-hunting-shoots-self-in-foot/?intcmp=obnetwork

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1   dtbristol   2013 Dec 20, 8:15am  

Beliefs inform actions. Gay people are persecuted in this country and this man's bigotry is unacceptable. Some people are born gay. Get over it!

2   elliemae   2013 Dec 20, 11:48am  

CaptainShuddup says

Before anyone calls FOX talking points, Almost all of the above what this article stated about DD, I posted last year as my exact thoughts on the show.

Who gives a shit? They're the new kardashians. They're not "real" - they're tv.

3   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 20, 12:01pm  

dtbristol says

Gay people are persecuted in this country and this man's bigotry is unacceptable. Some people are born gay. Get over it!

Where? Who's persecuting? Are they being persecuted for speaking their minds?

4   lostand confused   2013 Dec 20, 12:13pm  

Someone had to link Benghazi to this !!

But that aside, he was voicing his private opinion. But he is a person working for a company and that is between him and his company. My company demands certain models of behaviour and I can be terminated if I don't follow their requirments. That is between the company and its calculations-about how much damage it may cause them -I am sure they weighed the pros and cons and came to their decision. it is like if you work in a Chinese restauant and keep giving out free Tibet flyers-maybe the restaurant management may decide to fire you-or not. Depends.

If the gubmnt had something to do with this-now that would make me very worried.

5   Ceffer   2013 Dec 20, 1:06pm  

Ducks and geese are often gay.

Wonder if he gives them extra volleys.

6   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 1:32pm  

dtbristol says

Beliefs inform actions. Gay people are persecuted in this country and this man's bigotry is unacceptable. Some people are born gay. Get over it!

you mean all those rich gay people in the media... wow ! persecuted when

there is no proof of 'gay gene"... thats propaganda.

7   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 20, 1:35pm  

Well I see all the Rep/Con/Tea Socialist don't like A&E Free Market Capitalism. Has any,"spouting off at the mouth", R/C/Ts read the contract A&E has with the Robertsons? If A&E has the contractual right to suspend any cast member then R/C/T's love of Free Enterprise,trumps the Robertson's Right to run their mouths. How stupid are people who sign contracts surrendering their right to speak openly? A&E must be defended by "True" Right Wing lovers of unregulated capitalism.
It's a free country,R/C/Ts are happy condemning a Private business even though it makes them Socialists.The FOX piece mentions "traditional values". I guess wing nuts hate traditional "for profit" businesses.
I love Right to Work.Contracts should not stop businesses form firing anyone for any reason.

Dan Gainor says:"Talk about defecating in Sarah Palin’s mouth? "
That was absolutely unnecessary!!

I know shit when i hear it.

8   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 1:47pm  

HEY YOU says

Well I see all the Rep/Con/Tea Socialist don't like A&E Free Market Capitalism. Has any,"spouting off at the mouth", R/C/Ts read the contract A&E has with the Robertsons? If A&E has the contractual right to suspend any cast member then R/C/T's love of Free Enterprise,trumps the Robertson's Right to run their mouths. How stupid are people who sign contracts surrendering their right to speak openly? A&E must be defended by "True" Right Wing lovers of unregulated capitalism.

you might want to check what FOX shows actually said on the matter.
it might surprise you...

9   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 20, 1:50pm  

http://www.youtube.com/embed/KW343K1-upo#t=189

"You Dumb Asses deserve to be conned."

10   dtbristol   2013 Dec 20, 1:52pm  

Firing or refusing to hire someone because they are gay or lesbian is legal in 29 states. That sounds like persecution to me. That Duck Dynasty troglodyte made the company that signs his paychecks look bad and he got punished for it. People get fired all the time for saying and doing ignorant things outside of the workplace. I'm sure this was in his contract. Maybe some of you apologists can get a collection plate going for him. He may need another million.

11   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 1:57pm  

CaptainShuddup says

Is it all that obvious?

they dont have a gay character like other shows do.. but then again i dont
expect pro-PETA folks to watch either.. no one getting drunk or calling names,
fights breaking out.. sleeping around like so many other reality shows....

But here we have a bunch of southern hicks beating out all these other
East- West- coast city bling bling elitist shows over rating.

YES... they BEAT everyone else on the rating...

12   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:01pm  

Ceffer says

Ducks and geese are often gay.

Wonder if he gives them extra volleys.

wonder how many GLT are members of Peta !

13   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:12pm  

dtbristol says

That Duck Dynasty troglodyte made the company that signs his paychecks look bad and he got punished for it. People get fired all the time for saying and doing ignorant things outside of the workplace.

based on what you say, would equally mean if I went to a Christian church, then it would mean what ?

14   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 20, 2:21pm  

thomaswong.1986 says: "they dont have a gay character like other shows do.."

Ever hear the phrase: "In the closet"

15   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:24pm  

HEY YOU says

"You Dumb Asses deserve to be conned."

sounds more like your commentator is the con...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/20/phil-robertson-quote-media-not-reporting

To begin with, the Duck Commander did not single out homosexual behavior; he listed over a half-dozen sins, including adultery, greed, bestiality, drunkenness, idolatry, etc. But the most important thing Robertson said I have yet to see anyone in the elite media report:

You put in your article that the Robertson family really believes strongly that if the human race loved each other and they loved God, we would just be better off. We ought to just be repentant, turn to God, and let’s get on with it, and everything will turn around.

16   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:24pm  

HEY YOU says

thomaswong.1986 says: "they dont have a gay character like other shows do.."

Ever hear the phrase: "In the closet"

nice try...but as the numbers show.. they are beating everyone else out on ratings...

17   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 20, 2:34pm  

"..they are beating everyone else out on ratings..."

Until someone opens a closet door?

I understand Hitler had a lot of fans in Germany.

18   upisdown   2013 Dec 20, 2:37pm  

Way to go A&E, if you wouldn't have hired those stupid inbreds, nobody would have ever heard of them! Just how exactly, is a moronic show with rednecks from Louisiana either arts, or entertainment anyway?

So beyond the antics of A&E, apparently the supporters(mostly stupid right wingers just like the ones on the show and Fox News) of dumbshit inc. think A&E is part of the government, along with not knowing what censorship means, or is.

Speaking of censorship, just how did anybody hear about his stupid ramblings anyway, much less be interviewed by ANY magazine if it wasn't for A&E?

Maybe it's time for the typical right wing victim-routine, like Sarah Palin did, and milk the rednecks and right wing extremists for another 5 years like she does.

19   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:38pm  

I can see why some are also angry... they are not placing PR in the fields, which he was, working side by side with blacks when he was young. He too was hoeing cotton like a farmer (both black and white).. Perhaps he too was happy working with Blacks both being Christians... it seems it really escapes what PR was saying.. IT Just doesnt mesh with your Liberal revisionist history and current agenda... Seems where he worked and lived, Blacks were treated with respect, dignity, and were considered Godly Christians. You sad stupid liberals have lost your minds...

"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person," the 67-year-old reality star said in the mag's January issue about pre-Civil-Rights South. "Not once."
In fact, in his childhood experiences growing up in Vivian, La., Robertson suggested he could relate to the black struggles because he was "white trash."

"Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers," he explained. "I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field … They're singing and happy."

"I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' -- not a word!" he said. "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/phil-robertson-black-people-mistreated-south-article-1.1553071#ixzz2o5Yam7EM

20   upisdown   2013 Dec 20, 2:40pm  

HEY YOU says

Until someone opens a closet door?

Haaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa. Closets don't apply to rednecks, they use the barn.

21   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:53pm  

HEY YOU says

"..they are beating everyone else out on ratings..."

Until someone opens a closet door?

I understand Hitler had a lot of fans in Germany.

just look at the other programs... drinking, sleeping around, fighting and other distasteful images you see. their formula is about 'driving tension' in the viewer.

Duck Dynasty is most likely by far the most boring show on cable ... not much " action" there...
Yet.. they draw the most viewers...

22   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 20, 2:58pm  

HEY YOU says

We all know what a good "Y'all are going to Hell" God talking Christian would do.

perhaps you might fill us in... would you like Christians to pull all

charitable contributions for food, shelter and Aids work

would you like that ?

Only a Anarchist would !

23   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 20, 11:38pm  

Typical mental Liberals, get over your selves,
people can have opionions about Gays and not be the Droids you're looking for.
That's like blaming everyone that ever bitched about their Mom's constant calling and meddling behavior, when some psycho with Mother issues, and sexual identity issues as well goes and kill Women because they have deep psychological Mother issues.

Then the next time one someone is kvetching about their mother, stopping them and saying, "STOP you're persecuting Homeless Latina Hookers, that's why Serial killers in big cities prey on them because you're bitching about your mother."

Phils preference to the good book, and his beliefs their in, is non of the gays' business, he's not persecuting Gay people by saying what he believes constitute sin, in the eyes of Most sensible Americans, we're seeing it the other way around.

Have a very Duck Dynasty Christmas everyone ELSE!

24   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 21, 4:08am  

"...people can have opionions about Gays and not be the Droids you're looking for."

Not if some are Droids & signs away their rights to run their mouths.

Fire them all,A&E! Free Enterprise Job Creators trump all contractually obligated peons.

25   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 21, 5:13am  

Yeah fire them all, put them on FOX so everyone who doesn't have Cable can see them too.

The GOP should dig more of them Up and bombard the television with shows about family values and sincere honesty. I bet they would have 80% of the voting public watching every show.

They could watch that, or the Liberals show calling everyone who isn't a White educated California Liberal Californian who knows what is best for everyone else, calling everyone "STUPID" shows.

DD just bit the Liberals in the Ass, it was supposed to be a "Ha Ha Look at those dumb White rednecks" show.

Git'er done Larry the Cable guy was one such invention.
He credits his roommates from Texas and Georgia for inspiring his imitation Southern accent.

26   elliemae   2013 Dec 21, 2:04pm  

CaptainShuddup says

DD just bit the Liberals in the Ass, it was supposed to be a "Ha Ha Look at those dumb White rednecks" show.

Duck Dynasty didn't bite Liberals in the ass. It's a stupid teevee show that a buncha people watch. A dude said something offensive and the network suspended him. It's been done many times before, and will be done again.

Remember Marv Albert dressing up for pictures?

Fourteen years ago, we couldn't have expected Marv—then 56, charged with forcible sodomy and assault of a longtime female acquaintance, tried in a three-day proceeding that revealed his fetishes for biting, male-male-female threesomes and ladies' underwear, found guilty of a lesser charge, and fired by NBC—to reach his former career heights. And now it seems he's surpassed them. We've obscured Commonwealth of Virginia v. Marv Albert and its fallout not because it doesn't matter, or because his punishment was excessive, or because Marv changed, even—but because his voice was, is so damn good.
http://deadspin.com/5913641/the-comeback-pig-marv-albert-and-how-to-survive-any-sex-scandal

I'm not sure why you continue to believe that there is a Liberal conspiracy and that we all think alike. Personally, the guy seems to be an asshole. But I don't give a shit if he is on teevee or not. When they held the top-secret liberal vote, I abstained.

27   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 21, 2:37pm  

CaptainShuddup says

DD just bit the Liberals in the Ass, it was supposed to be a "Ha Ha Look at those dumb White rednecks" show.

Git'er done Larry the Cable guy was one such invention.

He credits his roommates from Texas and Georgia for inspiring his imitation Southern accent.

How about Andrew Silverstein aka Andrew Dice Clay aka Diceman

Gotta hand it Silverstein, he created a character way way beyond the Liberals
could even handle today ...

what would Diceman say ... they never got it Silverstein was playing a character.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/9l4JpI0nwf8

28   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 21, 2:44pm  

elliemae says

Duck Dynasty didn't bite Liberals in the ass. It's a stupid teevee show that a buncha people watch.

lots and lots of people watch... top rated in history.. the most profitable for A&E...

no rage, no cussing, no lying, no backstabbing, no cat fighting or any hitting...

just about the most boring show you have on cable... and the most popular...

29   elliemae   2013 Dec 21, 3:11pm  

So? It's still a teevee show. My point is that cap'n thinks that the liberals are upset over his comments, that we all get together and got A&E to suspend the dude. The cap'n seems to think we got the guy suspended.

I don't care what he said, it doesn't affect me. I've never met him and don't watch so-called reality tv. It's not reality.

30   John Bailo   2013 Dec 21, 3:27pm  

Aren't his comments on Shintoism a clue that this is another Chic-Fil-A publicity stunt?

Seriously, Shintoism...you can see the nod and the wink from a country mile.

The easiest way to viral marketing for your product these days is to upset the Agenda.

That much is clear. Chic-Fil-A sends the media into histrionics, then backs off, rescinds their words...and opens 100 new franchises along with a donation to some Rainbow Coalition charity. Completely non-cost and no tax advertising!

I do like the fact that he turned nearly every Rightist pundit into a commie by their exhortations that a private business could not terminate an employee for damaging their brand name! That much is rich! He just cleaned all the phonies out of the house. Bye bye Palin, Steyn and all the rest of the phonies.

31   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 21, 5:36pm  

John Bailo says

Seriously, Shintoism...you can see the nod and the wink from a country mile.

give the guy some credit.. it appears he isnt the dump hick many would
like to portray him as... it seems he does read history books after all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto#State_Shinto

" In 1890, the Imperial Rescript on Education was issued, and students were required to ritually recite its oath to "offer yourselves courageously to the State" as well as to protect the Imperial family. Such processes continued to deepen throughout the early Shōwa period, coming to an abrupt end in August 1945 when Japan lost the war in the Pacific. On 1 January 1946, Emperor Shōwa issued the Ningen-sengen, in which he quoted the Five Charter Oath of Emperor Meiji and declared that he was not an akitsumikami."

32   upisdown   2013 Dec 21, 11:18pm  

John Bailo says

The easiest way to viral marketing for your product these days is to upset
the Agenda.


That much is clear. Chic-Fil-A sends the media into histrionics, then backs
off, rescinds their words...and opens 100 new franchises along with a donation
to some Rainbow Coalition charity. Completely non-cost and no tax
advertising!


I do like the fact that he turned nearly every Rightist pundit into a commie
by their exhortations that a private business could not terminate an employee
for damaging their brand name! That much is rich! He just cleaned all the
phonies out of the house. Bye bye Palin, Steyn and all the rest of the
phonies.

Good catch and very true. The NRA was recently turned down, and more than likely knew that they would be, for a Super Bowl ad buy. Now they get almost as much exposure(and major sympathy from their die-hard supporters) toward their intended audience FOR FREE!
Sarah Palin has managed to do the same thing with her victim-routine(of what exactly nobody but her fellow extremists knows)and make millions per year in book sales, appearance(Fox News) /speaking fees and pointless contributions from her 'admirers'.

This may well even have been a planned exit for the rednecks as it's been known for awhile that the stupid redneck wanted to leave, and will turn this into some f-d up martyr/sympathy marketing to their moronic fans that can't understand the difference between tv and reality.
Look at (again) Sarah Palin, and how popular 'the war on christmas' is with the Fox News crowd(it must be or they wouldn't keep doing it every year)because the poor, and abused white moron that says stupid shit and I'm a victim sells with the crowd that coincidentally watches the 'reality' show of rednecks for rednecks, DD.

33   upisdown   2013 Dec 22, 12:12am  

Call it Crazy says

Speaking of censorship,

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of censorship.

Every form of media has carried the story of the thoughts and ramblings of the patriarch of rednecks, bringing those thoughts and words to people who had never even heard of Phil robertson, or even cared about who he was.

That's not censorship, that's called mass media advertising.

34   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 22, 12:32am  

bgamall4 says

There is a Yinon Zionist conspiracy with the neocons in charge much of the time.

Careful if you lose the Jews you loose the talking pictures.

Just you try fabricate a new liberal King from a community organizer mail cart pusher, without the Talkies.

35   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 22, 1:19am  

bgamall4 says

News came down that he had a right to his opinon but not a right to his intolerance.

Well they have been taking Liberal ass kisser 101 classes for the last 5 years.

"The GOP need to distance them selves from Old white men radicals." blah blah blah....

My guess is FOX will continue to beat on that drum, thinking it's getting great tone.

While the Robertson's phenomena continues to grow here and abroad. I bet they will become international superstars by 2015.

What A&E caught on film are some real righteous spiritual people in their quest to paint religions as the monkey's ass.

Just like the TLC execs did a good job in finding the most materialistic, petty, dumbest folks they could find to represent their offerings Breaking Amish and Amish Mafia. Those people were damn near inbred, buffoons and laggards.

The cast of that show could opened a verbal m-16, rocket propelled grenade launcher assault on other races, and lifestyles all they wanted. They would have made sound byte clips into memes to show how stupid they sounded.

They thought they found pure comedy Gold with the Robertsons.

36   bg   2013 Dec 22, 1:55am  

Let me start out by saying that I am in favor of gay marriage and equal rights for all LGBT people. Period.

I also grew up in the south and can appreciate a relic. So I think of the Duck Dynasty guy as an oddity that they picked for the show because he is in many ways outlandish. In my mind, it is the package. It is his generation and his culture. It is what makes him both entertaining and offensive. I have known and loved people like him. I did this in spite of their hateful beliefs, not because of them.

I am glad that someone like him will never be president. I am sad when hateful beliefs hurt people. I am surprised that anyone expected him to have beliefs other than what he stated. To me, it is part of the package. If you were entertained by watching all of the other ways he was backward, why would you kick him off the show now?

It is like firing a Kardahian when they say something shallow or sexist. Would you fire them for objectifying women?

37   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 22, 2:11am  

bg says

Let me start out by saying that I am in favor of gay marriage and equal rights for all LGBT people. Period.

I am too but they don't want equal rights, they already have that.
They want exceptional rights. The right to tell organization the "Definition" of what marriage even is. The right to be exempt from any criticism and scrutiny while they get a bully pulpit media outlet and are free to bombard anyone they disagrees with, all kinds of unsavory names.

Could you imagine if some televangelist parked out front of Anderson Coopers condo and harassed him to and from his door to his car, and followed him down the street. Waiting to get grunt out of him, so they could inject that he said "Death to all people who are religious, fucking Pope cock suckers..." and the majority of the people would then listen to the video a thousand times over trying to catch where he said that.

Instead of perpetuating that LIE they would call them out on it, if it even got that far. Chances are they all would have been hauled off to jail for harassing and stalking long before it even came to that.

Want legal standing with the American tax code where you're life partner is concerned. Then I have no problem with lobbying for those rights. I would even join in with them. I would support that 100% and have said so, countless times here.

What I don't support is rewarding them the exception right to redefine marriage in the eye's of the world's religions. Especially while they use their bully pulpit talk shows to make slanderous blasphemous remarks against religion and those who practice it.

38   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 22, 2:29am  

CaptainShuddup says

Where? Who's persecuting? Are they being persecuted for speaking their minds?

Still waiting for answer on my 3 disliked question.
Nobody likes an honest question I see.

39   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 22, 3:47am  

Who said anything about killing people?

Geesh the guy called them a sinner and thinks they are going to hell. Anyone bitching about that already is in hell, if that's all they got to worry about.

When Honey Booboo finds Jesus, the shit's really gonna hit the fan.

These guys have proved resilient to the Liberal hero self destruction formula, and it just pisses them off. That they haven't been able to dig up any past life dirt on them, or any current scandals to destroy them on a media campaign in tweeter and facebook. They didn't make a Facebook post or a tweet, or a sext anyone them selves. Fuck somebody even tried to pass off a Photo Shopped image of Willie Robertsons wife.

And if you think I'm just one mans opinion. Every company that has treaded into the political correct maddness of the GLADD exceptional rights agenda has found them selves quickly back peddling. First of all, if you carry DD merchandise, it is safe to assume you don't have the GLB for your typical clientele. Dare I say the Cracker barrel isn't your local Craigslist MOM hook up spot.

Now that A&E has shot their Golden Goose, multiple networks are falling over them selves to get them on their networks.

Why can't those Robertson's be more like the Cardashians, and those poor saps in those feel good Viral videos where some smug do gooder helps them out in some endearing way. The video is posted on Saturday, by Tuesday they are on every news network magazine segment, by wednesday they are on the talk show circuts, then by Friday the dirt about them surfaces and they are ran out of town by an angry mob with pitchforks and torches, like in Frankenstein.

Why oh why can't they be those innocent boobs, the media sure gets a kick out of eviscerating in front of an international digital audience.

I mean that's MSNBC and Comedy Central advertising gold right there.

40   mell   2013 Dec 22, 3:49am  

They are a private company and can do whatever they want, however that in turn means every employer has the right to discriminate as they see fit. You can't have it one way only, if you support anti-discrimination laws for every workplace then this guy should be able to sue the network as he was wrongfully terminated. If you don't, then you have to be ok if an employer fires somebody for promoting pro-gay/straight/black/white/religious beliefs at their workplace if they deem voicing those beliefs not in line with their workplace. This may be tough to swallow for some, but anybody who does not see it that way is not a true liberal. Note that his only applies for private entities.

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