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CaptainShuddup says

and even one third of the Democrats.

Really ?

You might want to review your elementary school arithmetic.

Call it Crazy says

Wow, does Palin really scare the two of you that much??

Don't think she has much of a chance to make a come back.
If she was running against Hillary for Presidential elections, who do you think would get slaughtered?

Anyone who wants Sarah Palin's fingers on the nuclear button is an idiot who should not be allowed to vote.

Former Half-Governor Palin should be our next president.

Might as well have the financial, environmental, and social meltdown now. Induce vomiting earlier to work out the poisons before they've completely fucked the whole organism.

My only concern: Would she stay through the whole term, or simply resign after she got bored?

Call it Crazy says

Dan8267 says

Anyone who wants Sarah Palin's fingers on the nuclear button is an idiot who should not be allowed to vote.

As compared to Obama or Biden?? Really??

Obama is evil, but not stupid or religiously crazy.

Biden is neither.

So, yes, big difference.

You're thinking of Bush. She's just like Bush, but with a penis.

She's still hotter than anyone from the 2008 elections.

Call it Crazy says

Wow, does Palin really scare the two of you that much??

She is a gun toting NRA nut!

Dan8267 says

Obama is evil, but not stupid or religiously crazy.

He is an ideologue, give me a corrupt Clinton type any day, much safer.

Palin is great and easy on the eyes.

CaptainShuddup says

She's still hotter than anyone from the 2008 elections.

I feel sad for anyone who thinks Sarah Palin is hot.

Sarah Palin is nothing compared to Samantha Powers, Hitlary, and Jen Psaki. Those witches are just pure evil.

"Oh, they're not refugees, they're going on vacation."
"Looks like a missile visited a cafe full of Palestinians watching the World Cup."
"Saudi Arabian tanks ran over democracy protesters in Bahrain. Oh gee, that's bad."

Sarah Palin wouldn't last long enough at any job to be a witch. She'd be hired on Monday and quit Tuesday.

indigenous says

He is an ideologue, give me a corrupt Clinton type any day, much safer.

To call the Clintons corrupt while ignoring the obscene corruption and cronyism of Reagan, the Bushes, and Dick Cheney is laughable. It's like comparing the radar signature of a humming bird to that of Godzilla.

CaptainShuddup says

She's still hotter than anyone from the 2008 elections.

Are we voting for someone to sleep with or a President?

Call it Crazy says

What did she accomplish as Senator or Sec. of State??

Not confusing Iraq with Saudi Arabia and Saddam Hussein with Osama bin Laden. That puts her way ahead of George Bush.

Now I don't like the idea of Hilary being president, but the only way to stop it is for republicans to agree in writing to concede the election to Joe Biden or Al Gore in exchange for her not running. Otherwise, you might as well get use to the idea of 8 years of Hilary.

Dan8267 says

To call the Clintons corrupt while ignoring the obscene corruption and cronyism of Reagan, the Bushes, and Dick Cheney is laughable.

Duly noted. Clinton did repeal Glass Steagall, was instrumental in the housing meltdown, did get impeached, lied under oath, the white water scandal, Chelsea is married to the son of Edward Mezvinsky:

In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 felony charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.[12] Nearly $10 million was involved in the crimes. Shortly after his indictment, he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but the judge at his trial disallowed a mental illness defense.[5] He served his time at Federal Prison Camp, Eglin.[13] Mezvinsky, Federal Bureau of Prisons # 55040-066, was released in April 2008.[14] He remained on federal probation until 2011, and still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.[15]

No Hillbilly is scum.

Call it Crazy says

Meanwhile, I'll sit and wait while you give us the rest of the list of her accomplishments...

That could be added to the list of the worlds shortest books

indigenous says

Duly noted.

1. Clinton did repeal Glass Steagall

A foolish mistake, but one advocated by all republicans as well, and not indicative of corruption.

2. was instrumental in the housing meltdown

No, you're thinking of Bush. The bubble, which was the problem, happened during his reign as did the bust and the start of the Second Great Depression.

3. did get impeached

This indicates corruption of Republicans, not Clinton. To impeach a president is to bring charges against him. The republican brought false charges against Clinton to create a scandal while hypocritically cheating on their own wives. Now that's corruption.

4. lied under oath

False. Clinton did not lie. He simply did not volunteer information that he was not asked. The stupid republicans asked if he had "sexual relations", which is code for intercourse not a blow job. They should have asked if he got a blow jobs, but they fucked up.

5. the white water scandal

Another Republican lie. From Investopedia

The investigation, led by special prosecutor Robert B. Fiske, found that Clinton had pressured David Hale into making a loan that benefited both Bill Clinton and Madison Guaranty. Fiske proceeded to issue a grand jury subpoena to President Clinton and his wife for documents related to Madison Guaranty. While the Clintons initially reported the records as missing, the documents eventually were found and the Clintons were cleared of any wrongdoing.

The investigation continued, with Kenneth Starr at the helm and businessman David Hale as the star witness. Starr alleged that Bill Clinton, during his term as governor of Arkansas, pressured Hale to make an illegal $300,000 federally-backed loan to Susan McDougal. The allegation lost much of its credibility after Hale was convicted of numerous felonies. But the Starr investigation went on to include the Lewinsky sex scandal and several other controversies involving the Clintons. All three inquiries into the Whitewater land deal yielded insufficient evidence to charge the Clintons with criminal conduct.

You can hate the Clintons all you want, but we all know the real reason you hate them is that Bill Clinton was the most successful and popular president since at least JFK. And you can't stand that.

6. Chelsea is married to the son of Edward Mezvinsky

Wow, now you're really desperate. Complaining about the Clinton's daughter's fiance's father and trying to show that makes Bill and Hilary corrupt.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/CZd_YyFzPD0

I love the smell of desperate conservatives in the morning. Smells like victory.

Dan8267 says

You can hate the Clintons all you want

I don't hate him? Like I said I will take a corrupt piece of white trash anytime before an ideologue. They bring us Social Security, Medicare, and the oxymoron affordable care act, and the Aryan race through eugenics.

Call it Crazy says

So, I guess that automatically qualifies Hillary for president, right?

I didn't say anything that implies that. What I said was, unless you conservatives concede the office to Biden or Gore, she's a shoe-in to be the next president, like it or not. And you conservatives know that, which is why you are shitting your panties.

indigenous says

I don't hate him? Like I said I will take a corrupt piece of white trash anytime before an ideologue.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/QP8xa62n5G0

Dan8267 says

indigenous says

I don't hate him? Like I said I will take a corrupt piece of white trash anytime before an ideologue.

Oh Dan bless your heart, I was not complementing him you dumb fuck. I just said I don't hate him. He IS a white trash piece of shit which is preferable to a sociopath like Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Obama, AH

Oh, I would love a Warren/Black ticket, but I doubt it will happen in 2016. Warren is exactly what this country needs right now, but unfortunately our country is composed of people too stupid to understand that.

Dan8267 says

False. Clinton did not lie.

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Dan, I think it's ridiculous that he was being questioned about his personal life. These are questions best left between spouses. However, he did, in fact, lie. Though I don't buy the argument that his personal sex life rises to the level of affecting his job performance... Nor do I think that his personal sex life differs much from presidents that served before him... He is, in fact, Commander in Chief. All members of the military are held to pretty tough standards when it comes to their personal lives. As head of the organization, I can understand why they feel that Clinton, too, should be held to the same standard. It would be nice if they would just apply it across the board and not willy nilly, as a bullying tactic against someone they just don't like... My advice... If you are president, just keep it in your pants throughout your term.

turtledove says

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Dan, I think it's ridiculous that he was being questioned about his personal life. These are questions best left between spouses. However, he did, in fact, lie. Though I don't buy the argument that his personal sex life rises to the level of affecting his job performance... Nor do I think that his personal sex life differs much from presidents that served before him... He is, in fact, Commander in Chief. All members of the military are held to pretty tough standards when it comes to their personal lives. As head of the organization, I can understand why they feel that Clinton, too, should be held to the same standard. It would be nice if they would just apply it across the board and not willy nilly, as a bullying tactic against someone they just don't like... My advice... If you are president, just keep it in your pants throughout your term.

You are talking about men here. They can't keep it in their pants.

Palin is quite impressive. She is definitely a quality person, who has done some things that showed integrity and went against the status quo.

Okay, I just looked. Neither "cantaloupe sex" nor "doll sex" can be found in my human sexuality textbook. Sorry, man. I tried. Incidentally, there is a whole section on oral sex.

sbh says

Thanks, ducky, for facilitating the lunacy of the village indigiot. ANYONE who thinks she is impressive has a serious lack of blood flow to the neo-cortex. She doesn't know what she thinks if it hasn't been told to her and written on her palm. God, she's a cretin.

Have you read anything about her? or just sound bytes brought to you by the liberal media?

Strategist says

59% of 599 horny students don't get to decide what sex is.

here's how to look at it...If you have "oral sex" with another woman, will your wife get upset?

And will you have an orgasm?

Strategist says

here's how to look at it...If you have "oral sex" with another woman, will your wife get upset?

Or you could ask which one she'd get more upset about.

turtledove says

Don't be such a baby.

"sexual relations" is defined as "sexual behavior between individuals, especially sexual intercourse."

So sexual relations is not limited to intercourse. THUS, other things are included in acts that qualify as "sexual relations." See Strategist's earlier comment for a more complete list.

Well, the definition of sexual relations is coitus, so...

We all know that Bill was doing what many powerful men do, and that most make better choices for their knee tremblers than he did, but once he was needlessly pulled up about it, he had every right to play the linguistic game to his own benefit. His definition is, after all, actually correct, though it was pretty laughable that he needed to play it that way in the first place.

Strategist says

Are we voting for someone to sleep with or a President?

Why not didn't we elect a funny black man to make us laugh.

We thought he would have at least been as good of a President as Chris Rock was in that movie. Hell I would settle for Eddie Murphy in distinguished gentlemen.

"If I go down you go down Dick Dodge!"

indigenous says

sbh says

Thanks, ducky, for facilitating the lunacy of the village indigiot. ANYONE who thinks she is impressive has a serious lack of blood flow to the neo-cortex. She doesn't know what she thinks if it hasn't been told to her and written on her palm. God, she's a cretin.

Have you read anything about her? or just sound bytes brought to you by the liberal media?

I've read about her and seen her speak on some very conservative media. Unlike you I look at both sides of any issue. She is self promoting trailer trash without a moral compass of any kind. The female conservative version of clinton with a much lower iq.

On the other hand I don't she how she could be any worse than bush or obama. I think a palin/coulter ticket would be ideal. Not including the palin presidency starting wwIII thing of course. Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how was the play?

turtledove says

"sexual relations" is defined as "sexual behavior between individuals, especially sexual intercourse."

This is a silly semantics argument. Nobody is arguing how intimate oral sex is compared to intercourse or anything along those lines. The question is what do people mean when they say they "had sex" or "had sexual relations?" The results of a survey is the closest you can come to knowing the answer to that question.

In my opinion, Clinton did lie when cornered about Lewinski (although it's a grey area and maybe not technically a lie). But I also believe the whole subject was none of our business, and basically the result of typical modern day republican behavior - a witch hunt to try to find something to nail him on. It's sad that republicans can't see what total scumbag morons they have become.

This includes these days, when I honestly believe that republicans would intentionally prevent Obama from pushing through good legislation that republicans believe in and think is important, if it they thought it might be seen as part of an Obama success. I don't have the words to describe how totally fucked up that is.

The only explanation I can think of for it is that republicans know that their party is not the party doing the work of the people. They are the party of the plutocrats and corporate power. They will do anything ANYTHING to obtain or hold on to power or to take it away from those who might do the bidding of the people (against the interests of the plutocracy/corporatocracy).

If republicans believed they were the party that represented the people's best interests, then they could play fair, and win elections solely on the merits of their policy differences.

bob2356 says

She is self promoting trailer trash without a moral compass of any kind.

Why do you say that?

I would probably agree that 50% of Americans love Palin. Americans have a tendency to love entertainment and one of the best forms of entertainment is watching someone talk and wondering what the hell just came out of their mouths. Humor is great entertainment.

edvard2 says

wondering what the hell just came out of their mouths.

Examples?

sbh says

The entertainment factor

Says the illiterate tree fucker...

Strategist says

We were made the laughing stock of the world, thanks to the Republicans.

Say What?

So you are saying the the President of the United States has no responsibility what the fuck so ever to represent his country?

indigenous says

Strategist says

We were made the laughing stock of the world, thanks to the Republicans.

Say What?

So you are saying the the President of the United States has no responsibility what the fuck so ever to represent his country?

Sure he does have that responsibility. The Republicans also have a responsibility to put the country above politics. There was no need to publicize intricate details of his affair with "that woman"
In spite of all that humiliation he remained a very popular President who would have easily won a third term. Only Americans who read the "National Enquirer" want to know how good the blow job was, everyone else stuck to his performance as a President.

Strategist says

There was no need to publicize intricate details of his affair with "that woman"

So the country needs less accountability?

If he is willing to cheat on his wife what is he willing to do to the country?

That being said he is still preferable to what we have now...

indigenous says

bob2356 says

She is self promoting trailer trash without a moral compass of any kind.

Why do you say that?

Because like the clinton twins there is a constant aura of scandel that never quite gets to the illegal stage. Followed by a non stop litany of explanations and justifications. They all three know how to stand with their toes right on the line between illegal and legal. At least clinton was a rhodes scholar and reasonable speaker. There is no way palin can hide from the large body of idiotic statements she has made.

Being the gov of one of the smallest states in the nation that doesn't even have to have taxes isn't exactly the forging on the anvil experience I would see for a potential president. Of course it isn't much worse than being a junior senator or a totally failed businessman who was gov of a state with a part time legislature and pretty much a ceremonial gov. People who haven't lived in tx don't realize how little the gov does or how little power he/she has.

I guess we could go for the loser president trifecta.