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Obamacare - Medicaid - Starting business - Risk free?


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2014 Nov 21, 12:47am   3,656 views  5 comments

by joshuatrio   ➕follow (4)   💰tip   ignore  

Does obamacare and medicaid expansion make starting a business a risk free proposition right now?

For example, with my current salary, to buy into the obamacare silver plan would set me back $700/mo.

If I started an LLC, and paid myself no more than $25kish or so a year, my whole family would qualify for medicaid (now that they no longer do an asset check test)... If I bump my income to $35k, my kids are covered under medicaid, and I'm on a medical plan for $120/mo for me and my wife (that 120/mo is the total) - with a $2200/per person max deductible, which is very reasonable.

I'm new to starting a business. But this seems to be risk free. Full coverage medical for pennies due to subsidies.

Is it legal to only pay yourself $20k, even if your LLC made $50k?

Anyhow, not trying to cheat the system, but have wanted to go into business for a while - this could make it a loss free proposition for my family. I personally know families who are multi-millionaires - parents on subsidized healthcare and kids on state plans.

If this option is available, why not use it?

#politics

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1   joshuatrio   2014 Nov 21, 12:57am  

So you would have to set your business up as a different type... ?

2   joshuatrio   2014 Nov 21, 1:04am  

Definitely going to go talk to a CPA and Tax Attorney.

I have sufficient cash to cover myself for a few years.

I checked out covered California the other day and couldn't believe how steep the subsidies were for low income. Full coverage for virtually nothing.

Figured if I just reduced my income enough, it made sense.

3   elliemae   2014 Nov 26, 12:01am  

Worth a try! Let us know what the pro's say.

4   joshuatrio   2014 Nov 29, 12:36am  

Well, sat down with a CPA the other day - Call it Crazy was right.

Income earned is income earned as an LLC. So if I made 100k, I couldn't "pay myself" just $25k and have the business hold onto the other $75k. The guv sees my income as $100k and that's it.

However, if I incorporated as a class C corp, it's possible to do it where you only pay yourself $25k and the biz keeps the $75k - however you are subject to double taxation, which doesn't make sense financially at this time.

The CPA I met with didn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed, so I'm going to meet with another one.

I'm wondering if (as an LLC), if I could park everything in pre-tax 401k's/IRA's and then my income is only the remainder. Therefore qualifying for medical subsidies.

5   drew_eckhardt   2014 Nov 29, 2:13am  

joshuatrio says

I'm wondering if (as an LLC), if I could park everything in pre-tax 401k's/IRA's and then my income is only the remainder. Therefore qualifying for medical subsidies.

It depends on how much you make.

401k plans have the highest contribution limit for your purposes - $18,000 with an extra $6,000 catch-up allowed for those over 50.

SEPs have a much higher dollar limit ($53K), but are limited to the lesser of that "or 25% of income."

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